Dave-H

YouTube is actually reasonably OK for me, the only thing which doesn't work is the video preview function when I put the cursor over a video in the list, which does work in Firefox 85, but not in Firefox 52.9 ESR. I use this UA string on YouTube - "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0".

Thanks. I have tried different user agents on Facebook (I have an add-on which allows me to do that on a site by site basis) but they never seemed to make any difference. I don't want to use the mobile version of the site because it looks awful on my desktop. The new page layout has if anything made things even worse than they used to be, it's pretty slow and unresponsive even on Firefox 85! Why they use ridiculously bloated huge javascript routines on sites like Facebook is quite beyond me, I'm sure it's not necessary.

Yes, I use XP for online banking without a second thought. As long as the banking sites don't start failing with my browser (Firefox 52.9 ESR) I see no reason to stop doing that. I must confess that I've started to go over to Firefox 85 on Windows 10 for sites like Facebook, because they are crawlingly slow in Firefox 52.9.

I still use XP as my default OS, and hope to continue to do so for a very long time yet. I have to have Windows 10 as well now because I have programs I need, like Adobe editing and web publishing programs, which now will only run on 64 bit Windows 10. For general use I still much prefer the UI of XP though.

You were probably lucky to find even one driver that worked on XP! What's the problem with the driver you're using?

I've never found any reason not to use the latest released version. I do worry that one day I will not be allowed to update any further as my old hardware is deemed to be incompatible, but it's not happened yet!

Well I did the registry file with the default paths that the installer should have used, had it worked, so if your path to the JRE files wasn't exactly the same you would have needed to change it of course. In fact you could almost certainly now move the JRE files back into a subfolder of the ASuite folder as it was before if you wanted to, and as long as you change the paths in the registry to match, it should still work. As regards the Java installer failure, an alternative to trying Safe Mode would be to use msconfig and disable everything that's not necessary and try in a "clean boot" mode. Whether this would have worked I don't know, but the installer would be more likely to still run in clean boot mode than it would be in Safe Mode.

The reg file was just the equivalent key copied from the Java 8 installation on my XP system, with the paths and version numbers suitably altered for the Java 7 version you downloaded. So, a bit of both really. It was a "modified copy"!

That's a very good question. I never had any problems installing Java on XP with the normal installer until later versions of Java 8, where the Java still worked, but the installer became incompatible with XP and wouldn't run at all. It's not unusual to find multiple versions of Java on a system. Because some applications need specific versions, like with your problem where it needed specifically Java 7, installing a Java 8 version, for instance, does not uninstall any earlier versions which are already present. Different versions can coexist on the system quite happily. The only thing I can think of is that something on the system in question was blocking the Java installer from completing everything that it had to do. Could be security software of course. Did you ever try installing in Safe Mode, I can't remember? Some installers won't work anyway in Safe Mode of course, but it's always worth a try. It sounds like you're fine now anyway, and if you don't have anything else on the system that needs Java I can't see any reason to worry that it's not fully installed at system level. Cheers, Dave.

So it worked? That's great news! 👍😁👍

@videobruce Did you make any more progress with this?

I'll be very interested to hear if you get it to work, I never did.

Yet another one today! KB4493222 - Excel.

Yet another one today! KB4493222 (Excel)

Well I'm hoping that just giving ASuite access to the JRE files it needs will be enough, without actually installing Java to the system as a whole. As I said, I've got two applications on my XP system which use their own JREs and don't use the system one at all, so it's just possible that ASuite might be persuaded to do the same.

Interesting stuff thanks, but that URL just produces a blank white screen for me on Firefox 52.9ESR.

Ah, thanks for that! So it just might be possible to fool it by creating a key which will match the key that the Java installer would have created. If you create a C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.7.0_80 folder, and move the files in the JRE folder into it, a key can probably be created to point to that folder, to make the installation as standard as possible. Sort of like this perhaps? Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Runtime Environment] "CurrentVersion"="1.7" "BrowserJavaVersion"="10.80.2" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Runtime Environment\1.7] "RuntimeLib"="C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre1.7.0_80\\bin\\client\\jvm.dll" "JavaHome"="C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre1.7.0_80" "MicroVersion"="0" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Runtime Environment\1.7.0_80] "JavaHome"="C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre1.7.0_80" "MicroVersion"="0" "RuntimeLib"="C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre1.7.0_80\\bin\\client\\jvm.dll" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Runtime Environment\1.7.0_80\MSI] "INSTALLDIR"="C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre1.7.0_80\\" "JU"="" "OEMUPDATE"="" "FROMVERSION"="NA" "FROMVERSIONFULL"="" "PRODUCTVERSION"="7.0.800.15" "EULA"="" "JAVAUPDATE"="0" "AUTOUPDATECHECK"="0" "AUTOUPDATEDELAY"="" "FullVersion"="jre1.7.0_80-b15"

Just to be clear, the JRE folder needs to be in the same folder as the ASuite program files. If you just put it in the C:\Program Files folder that almost certainly won't work. EDIT: Oops, sorry, I see you actually did that! Remove the copy from the Program Files folder in case it's confusing things, so there's only one folder with the JRE files in it, and it's inside the C:\Program Files\ASuite folder.

@videobruce If you're only trying to use Java 7 with one application, you may not actually need to have it installed to the system. I have a couple of applications which use their own Java Runtime Environment, which came as part of their installation, and they don't use the system Java. Try this. Download the compressed archive of the Java 7 Update 80 JRE (the last Java 7 version AFAIK) from here. Extract the files to the jre1.7.0_80 folder, and then copy it to the Program Files folder of the application that you want to use it. You have to extract twice, as there is a .tar file inside the .gz file. You can use 7-zip for that. Don't worry if there is an error message after the first extraction, it's actually all fine, just ignore it. Rename the copied folder to "JRE". If you're lucky, the application will now find the JRE and use it, and all will be well. If it doesn't, it may be in the settings of the application somewhere to set where it looks for the JRE, and you can set it appropriately. If the application won't actually run, check its registry entries and/or any configuration files to see if the Java path is there, and set it appropriately. Good luck!

I suspect that the error message sometimes being seen (but not always, sometimes there's just a blank edit field with no error message) is just a generic one from the system software, and doesn't necessarily have any relevance to what the problem actually is. It's just a "I can't edit this post, and this might be why" message.

I don't think it's just that moved posts can't be edited. Some of the uneditable posts haven't actually been moved, and I've moved quite a few posts recently and have subsequently edited them with no problem.

Well I'm glad that experiment worked anyway! I'm still suspicious of quotations here. That last post you link to I cannot edit either, and the only thing I can see perhaps slightly unusual about it is that it contains split quotations. Now there's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be able to do that of course, but I am wondering if the system doesn't like it for some reason.

Well the faulty post quotes OK as you can see, although without the quotations within it. Whether that means anything I don't know! If you're feeling brave @VistaLoveryou could try selecting and copying the whole post, without the thing at the bottom left, and then try editing it and pasting into the empty box. It would be interesting to see if that corrects the problem. I could try it myself, but as there is obviously a risk that the post could be permanently completely lost, I'll leave it to you to try if you want to!

Thanks, it is now snowing here! The only thing I can see at all odd in that post is that there appears to be what looks like part of a quotation box at the very bottom left. I wouldn't expect to see that, so maybe something is corrupted in the code for that post.

@VistaLover As a moderator, I should be able to edit all posts, and I've tried editing your posts in this thread. I can edit them all except the one before your last one, where I don't get an error message, but I just get an empty box where the content should be so there's nothing for me to edit! I would show you a screen grab, but I can't upload the image file. As others have reported, I'm just getting - "Sorry, an unknown server error occurred when uploading this file. (Error code: -200)" Something has definitely gone wrong somewhere! @dencorsocan you edit that post or upload files as a supervisor? No snow where I am in West London BTW, but it's extremely cold!