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We criss-crossed. Yes, that was my observation also. Granted, "bottom line", in my opinion, is that these "browser wars" have been going on for DECADES and will go on for DECADES MORE.
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You're advocating "Pro-Firefox" but then show a Chromium-based Edge to plead your case?
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Misplaced trust. It's not that difficult to become an "exit node". I used to know two server-maintainers that set themselves up as "exit nodes". Give yourself two months and due-diligence and you yourself can become an "exit node". You cannot "tor" without an "exit node". Look into "exit node eavesdropping". There are ways to block certain exit nodes. But it is another one of those things that only a tiny handful of users are even aware of. It's the Firefox opt-out scenario all over again. An about:config toggle is only useful if *ALL* users of Firefox know it's even buried in there. I know Firefox users that have never heard of "about:config". If this is a "majority" or a "minority" of Firefox users is totally unknown to me. Same goes for those that "opt-out".
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This is your OPINION. Chromium-based is really no different than Firefox-based - both have Sh^TLoadS of telemetry that the END-USER must jump through hoops to prevent/disable. A default setup right out of the box for Firefox typically has HUNDREDS (PLURAL!) of telemetry connections on the FIRST RUN (if you know what you are doing, you do this FIRST RUN when not connected to the internet!). A default setup right out of the box for Chrome typically has LESS THAN TWO DOZEN. "To each their own". But you are deceived or blind to refer to Firefox as "privacy-friendly" when the end-user is faced with many many MANY more HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH to make it remotely qualify as "privacy-friendly". Opt-Out is one thing. But only a tiny handful of Firefox users even know that this "opt-out" even exists! https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/walsc6/why_do_people_keep_acting_like_firefox_is_a/?rdt=34771 This isn't 1990 when Firefox truly was "privacy-friendly". ANONYMOUS DATA is still a privacy violation in my book! I view Firefox + Opt-Out as no different than UNGOOGLED CHROMIUM = Chrome + Opt-Out But either way you look at it, it is the responsibility of the end-user to "opt-out". "My two cents..."
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Same here. Mainly, because I actually do not believe that "anybody" on MSFN actually uses FIREFOX. FORKS of Firefox, yes. But I really really really do not think we have any MSFN Members running "real" 'upstream' Firefox.
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My only failure was "web page rendering". But no surprise as I have IE disabled and I do not "do" 'default web browser' types of embedded OS interlacing.
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Here is where those numbers were "arbitrarily obtained". I did not pluck them out of my dog's butt, lol.
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I kind of feel like you just always have to "win". I'll post the ENTIRE results in 45 minutes or so.
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Do you "need" for me to run the entire test again ??? I will. But I myself see it as a "waste of time".
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And please take a step back. It was YOU YOURSELF that said we needed to not base comparisons on CPU BENCHMARKS but use this "test suite" instead. We can (and did, but you didn't believe their numbers) cite CPU comparisons strictly by visiting web sites that perform those comparisons. No need to run a half hour test. I think we're done here, agreed? My Intel Atom is a PIECE OF SH#T.
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I can run the tests again and post ALL but you yourself even stated that you agreed, this Intel Atom is a PIECE OF SH#T. I'd really really really hate hate hate to have to spend the half an hour just to run these tests again. Especially considering another member is suggesting a Windows 2000 install and I am considering it. This Acer Aspire One is a total and complete PIECE OF SH#T. I think I have jumped through enough hoops to PROVE THAT.
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It's true that I "forgot" what a geomean was, but I would have refreshed my memory, I am not stupid. And again, MY RESULTS WERE POSTED BEFORE YOU POSTED YOURS. I only screencap'd the first section because you cited we were going to perform a geomean and multiply by 87.
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Mine are posted BEFORE YOURS via screencap. This post -- https://msfn.org/board/topic/186451-overall-performance-comparison-between-different-computers-under-windows-xp/?do=findComment&comment=1272354 And post immediately following it. If your ad-blocker or something is blocking the screencap, um, that's not "my fault", lol.
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to Jody Thornton's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Looks promising! The "AOA150" mentioned in the comments is actually the Acer Aspire One with the Atom N270. So basically a model or two just prior to my POS. -
Your Pentium 4 is "3 to 4 times faster". I think I even saw some side-by-side numbers where yours is close to FIVE times faster.
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Today is the first time that I've ever ran Speedometer 2.1 scores on this POS. Single-digit scores!
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Test just completed. 32 minutes and some odd seconds.
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MyPal 68
NotHereToPlayGames replied to Jody Thornton's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Same here. This POS is generally only used as an "email/text notification tool". When the notification arrives, I use the non-pos computers to read/respond. This Acer Aspire One really is the biggest waste of money I've ever spent! It was a $250 Christmas Special fourteen years ago! It got used a month or two then landed in a desk drawer until just a few months ago when a different laptop officially died. So this POS is essentially "brand new" and finally at least being used for something. But it really is a gigantic POS and a colossal waste of money. But I guess it isn't really if I take that $250 initial cost and divide it out by the number of months over its lifetime (which should be another DECADE since it's JUST NOW really starting to get USED). -
So are you going to fill in a "zero" for the failed tests? Or just geomean a smaller subset?
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Something tells me that this estimate ALONE reveals a good "comparison" between computers! I'll have a score in 34 minutes, starting "now". But something also tells me that if this is "estimated" at 34 minutes, it's going to be much MUCH worse than that!
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MyPal 68
NotHereToPlayGames replied to Jody Thornton's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Acer Aspire One, Win XP x86, 1.0 GB RAM, Intel Atom N450 - Serpent52 - RAM with two extensions and no tabs loaded == 136.62 MB Speedometer 2.1 score (wow is it utterly boring waiting for it to complete!) == 3.45 (yep, "gut feeling" already knew how ssllloooww this POS is, it's always nice to get quantifiable confirmation) Holy H#LL - lowest score I have ever seen !!! Mypay68 (first ever ran on this Acer POS) - RAM with one extension and no tabs loaded before rebasing == 310.57 MB RAM with one extension and no tabs loaded after rebasing == 119.88 MB Speedometer 2.1 score (still boring but "gut feeling" already can foresee a better score) == 7.71 (nothing to "write home about", but yeah, even "gut feeling" can tell you that Mypay68 is "twice as fast" as Serpent52 on this Acer POS) -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to Jody Thornton's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
That is in-process today. This particular Acer Aspire One POS sits in a dark dusty corner of a mini-server room and is very difficult to get to. I have it moved to a more-accessible location and will be comparing/contrasting Serpent52 and rebased Mypal68. It is also undergoing some benchmark testing just to prove to the masses how SSLLLOOOWW this Acer Aspire One POS really is.