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Wow! 2.55 GB for that particular tab! Looks like win32s is going to attempt a reversal.

Agreed! Same here. I don't even HAVE an old FB (or Instagram, or Twitter, or TikTok, et cetera) account. So you are "closer" than I am, lol.

Here at work (Win10 x64, 32 GB RAM, 12th Gen i7), my score decreases from 170 all the way down to 138. I am aware that Win10 is not our reference point here (Thorium is not needed on Win10), my only point here is that the switch in question should be "vetted" and not just by "gut feelings".

I did give it a trial run in Thorium earlier today. I was going to post screencaps but was afraid that I would appear "biased". I'm honestly not, lol. My test-case was WinXP x86 dual-core with only 1 GB RAM. My Thorium with one tab (Speedomter 2.1) with this enabled used approx 360 MB of RAM. Without this switch, the same one tab (Speedometer 2.1) used approx 480 MB of RAM. The switch improved my Speedometer 2.1 score - but only by 6 points which I would consider within "margin of error". On an old-but-not-ancient hardware running Win10 with eight cores and 16 MB RAM, I forget the RAM consumption but my Speedometer score DECREASED from 134 all the way down to 87 !!! I ran the tests four times both with and without this switch, all four tests in each case was within 3 or 4 points of each other. Win10, eight cores, and 16 MB RAM definitely does NOT like this switch.

With that command enabled is on the left. Without command is on the right. There is one 2.79 MB additional process without the command. So that is "something". Both Supermium most-recent on XP with only 1 GB RAM.

I had the illusion of success with that command. But additional testing turned me against it. I concede that this was in Win10 and not in XP. That seems to have been AstroSkipper's experience also (in XP) - https://msfn.org/board/topic/186133-thorium/?do=findComment&comment=1270824 Only your own testing (Dave-H) will dictate if this command is right for you or not.

My theory after trying all day (unsuccessfully) to reproduce that overlay popup is narrowed down to two -- 1) The overlay popup is so RARE that none of us will be able to reproduce the "follow these steps to replicate" algorithm, and 2) It's not rare and our defenses are blocking it 999 times out of every 1000 times that it is sent to us, with that 1-out-of-1000 time LEAKING through our defenses and we then need to track down what causes the LEAK But in the case of UXP browsers, nobody has ever been able to SOLVE LEAKS. We just all accept it as a fact of life and live with it.

Same here. None of our defenses were really blocking it, we just weren't getting it to begin with. I may be able to replicate during the work week as that's really the only time I have YouTube running ad-free and fully unattended. I am 100% positive that it WAS triggered by a FIXED number of videos. I was getting that overlay popup constantly. I cannot recollect the exact "when", but it was when I requested uBO lists to try and you obliged with a web site. You kind of seem to always divert the conversation when asked for your "lists". I don't recall ever seeing you reveal just what lists you use. That web site you directed me to is HUGE. But it did not solve my issue at the time, useful resource nonetheless. I have zero doubt that it was so long ago that YouTube has changed things several times since. And will continue to change things... over... and over... and over again...

AGREED! But, um, I/we could say the same for MSFN. How many of us block MSFN's adverts? As my old boss used to say, "I cannot confirm nor deny" whether I myself block adverts here at MSFN. Irony there is that I have seen members post screencaps and citing the "blank space" left behind when their ad-blocker blocks the ad but not the ad's "container".

At any rate, I've tried three different "ad blockers" in UXP and I cannot for the life of me reproduce this overlay popup. So none of us had to do anything to block it, we just had to wait a couple days for it to "fix itself", lol. It would be nice if SOMEBODY could REPRODUCE this overlay popup. But I'm not holding my breath.

ie, we MUST first isolate a repeatable set of steps that cause this overlay popup to begin with. I have Serpent 52 running my 80s list right now. With your uBO Legacy installed BUT WITHOUT ANY LISTS. I have not been able to reproduce the overlay popup. NO LISTS, just uBO Legacy installed. More importantly, NO OVERLAY POPUP EITHER.

AstroSkipper -- we're smarter than this! We both know that your legacy uTube and your mod'd uBO Legacy have not been demonstrated to prevent the overlay popup UNTIL YOU FIRST DISABLE YOUR LISTS AND WITNESS THE OVERLAY POPUP TO BEGIN WITH. As is, we have not even demonstrated that this overlay popup is ever being SENT TO YOU. You cannot prevent what you are not even being sent.

It's very possible that you will have to play at least FIVE HOURS. I really did not isolate the "exact trigger". My adblock/lists tests were targeting this overlay and ads. UCyborg even mentioned that the tab was open since Wednesday. That may be key also, my YouTube here at work is always a background tab. I do know for a FACT that uBO did not block these FOR ME. Maybe it would further the cause if you posted EXACTLY what your "several lists" are. If I recall, the last time all you did is direct me to a web site and I tried everything that pertained with no success. At any rate, I have solved this on MY END. I'll leave it between you and UCyborg at this point.

Here and here are the playlists where I first encountered this overlay popup. A list of 502 music videos from the 80s. And 12 videos of 7yr old Japanese drummer Yoyoka. It was "religiously" after every EIGHTH video that this overlay popup used to pause my playlist. Refreshing the page and clicking the NINTH video would get me back to work. And when I was experimenting with AstroSkipper's uBO lists and with various adblockers, it was my experience at the time that you did not have to listen to the videos all they way through. Let the first five to ten seconds or so play, click on the progress bar to start playing from five to ten seconds from the END of the video, let the playlist start the next song, let the first five to ten seconds play, click the progress bar at five to ten from the END. Keep repeating that and for me it was every EIGHTH video that popped up that popup. What I did not track is if it started at every EIGHTH but turned into every TENTH or TWELTH or if it turned into every FOURTH or SIXTH. My OCD Mind just remembers very distinctly that it was always always always right after Dirty Dancing and right before Billie Jean (when performing adblock/lists testing from an empty cache).

That particular popup has nothing to do with the video. Before I started using the extensions that I do not track if they have Firefox versions, Edge versions, Chrome versions, or UXP versions, where was I, oh, way back when I did witness those overlay popups, they had nothing to do with the video being played, rather, they would pop up once an hour or so or after every 6th music video or so. The actual video was not the trigger that presented the popup. It's the length of time that YouTube knows you didn't click on anything, the number of videos played back to back, et cetera. The video itself is irrelevant.

This is the one and only list I used for this extension, all of my other lists were contained within uBO (and again, they would not block the overlay popup).

I had to translate. So that other's don't have to jump through that step also, the top bold line reads "YouTube ad blocking is not allowed". I haven't seen that for months. I only YouTube at work. Anywhere from 5 to 15 hours non-stop. I set my own hours, lol. At first, I had to use THREE ad-blockers in addition to my Tampermonkey YouTube scripts to prevent that "overlay popup" (popup in the middle, the rest of the screen overlaid in gray). As of this week, those THREE ad-blockers have all been replaced with only ONE (still have the Tampermonkey scripts) and I've been good so far (5.5 hours at work today with no ads or pauses). Granted, two of the three were so that I could use the same EXACT profile on "fast" machines and on "slow" machines (no single solitary one ad-blocker would work on both!). Initially, NO uBO LISTS WOULD BLOCK THAT OVERLAY POPUP. NONE! I even tried several lists that AstroSkipper swore up and down to. They apparently worked for him and his geolocation but they did not work for me. The ONLY method that worked for me "at first" was ADDING AN EXTENSION to work hand-in-hand with uBO. That extension is found here -- version 5.22.0, I did not, and do not plan to, use the v6.0 and higher versions (the extension went from a 4.16 MB download to a gigantic 63.01 MB download, not interested). Unsure if that is your best solution or not. Again, I could not get uBO "alone" to block that overlay popup. What I am using NOW (as of just a few days ago) is this. I have not yet had any ads on YouTube. But it's also only been a few days. I still have the above extension installed but I have it and uBO now both disabled. The Tampermonkey script I use is this (among many other YouTube userscripts). It's dated 2023-06-22 and I just noticed it's been updated several times. But, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, my 2023-06-22 has been working for me.

Yep, that is what I have ran into. The few extensions that I use(d) for Serpent 52 won't be able to be migrated to Mypal 68. I technically only use it/them (Serpent 52 and/or Mypal 68) for Gmail and Google Voice and nothing else so I kind of have to ask myself "why even bother" with updating my one-year-old St52 to either a newer St52 or to Mypal 68). Other than St52 is the SLOWEST D#MN THING that I have ever witnessed on my old Acer Aspire with in Intel Atom CPU. Though to be fair I have not tried Mypal 68 on it yet. Supermium is a no-go and Thorium works but too new just for Gmail and Google Voice.

This appeared promising, but I cannot get Stylish to customize anything in Mypal. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/928428

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For Mypal, what is the "em:id" for an extension's "install.rdf"?

I'm finally getting around to giving Mypal 68 a trial run. First, why is the title of this thread called MyPal with a capital P? Second, based on Speedometer 2.1 scores, this scores 2.2 times faster than Serpent 52 - telling me I should have switched a LONG time ago, lol. Third, if I drag the edges of a NON-MAXIMIZED window to fill my entire screen, then close and relaunch, why does Mypal (lowercase p) shift to the right by 3-5 pixels or so? So far, I've only tested in Win10 (to replace my webmail-use-only Serpent 52). Speedometer scores tell me it will be used on my XP Acer Aspire One (which has a slower CPU than even AstroSkipper uses).

Doesn't this require an Intel third-party (ie, non-OS) utility/driver to be installed? If this came pre-installed, don't you only have yourself to blame if you didn't remove/disable? If not pre-installed but you installed this, don't you only have yourself to blame? If you allowed Windows Update to install this, don't you only have yourself to blame?

This is not evidence of a "fingerprint". I only log into MSFN from THREE computers, been that way for my entire "life span" here at MSFN - work Win10, primary home Win10 (was XP more than 90 days ago), and secondary home Win10 (also XP more than 90 days ago). If I were to go by that "security settings devices" list, then I apparently have TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN Win10 machines that I accessed MSFN from in the past 90 days. How can you claim that to be some form of "proof" of fingerprinting? If that list only listed the THREE computers that I use, then that list would mean something.

What is "IPS"?