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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I hear ya. YouTube has been on a TERROR for the last six months or so in regards to not allowing ad-blockers. I've changed combinations of extensions three or four times this year all on account of YouTube ads. I can only laugh at myself because until I became an MSFN member, I was never a YouTube user. I used to burn my own cd's, upload to Dropbox or Google Drive, and play those at work. Nowadays, I do use YouTube - and yeah, it's like a "second job" just to keep up with tweaking it, lol. My config plays YouTube AD-FREE !!! And yeah, "Hello YouTube, if you are listening", IT WILL STAY THAT WAY !!! "Challenge Accepted!" -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Um, I guess I find that hard to believe. You don't even block *ADS* on YouTube? -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thanks, good catch. I posted that during my morning breakfast-time just before leaving for work. That's actually another reason for me to *NOT* want to use this as a default config. I want my tweaks and edits "locally owned and operated". -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I've abandoned this already for here at work. It is extremely advantageous for all users to have alternatives (especially the "pre-10" folks). But for Win10, I cannot bring myself to using anything Mozilla-based. Everyone is going to have their own pros and cons, of course. The Turbo Launcher seems to work (missing some menu on/off buttons but did not track down root cause) even for Chromium-based, but still "not for me" and I prefer the *regular ol' YouTube* with my regular ol' YouTube fixes. We can definitely ALL AGREE that YouTube without any fixes or extensions or user scripts or user styles is garbage, lol. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
And I shouldn't "tempt fate", but it appears that Turbo Launcher also means I no longer need ad-blockers on YouTube. The real test will be at work. Which will also be the test for "are you still here" auto-pause. -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Working perfectly! I erased yesterday's VORAPIS profile with the MILE LONG script as a FAILURE. Yes, it "works", for the most part, but not really interested in adding 4400 to 6500 lines of javascript code! Started all over this morning with just GreaseMonkey and this much simpler Turbo Launcher. Liking it so far and no crashes at 30 to 40 seconds (and the annotation is blocked where it is not with the MILE LONG version). I'm a bit confused (until I have more time to dig deeper). It appears that this very simple Turbo Launcher does the same EXACT thing as the MILE LONG VORAPIS SCRIPT. Why would ANYONE use the MILE LONG version if this does the same exact thing? -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Same here. I've been experimenting with that VORAPIS script and ran the "one-liner" through some online .js "cleaners". They don't edit the script, just convert it from one MILE LONG line of code and put line breaks without breaking the .js functionality. That "dang" thing is 4400 to 6500 lines long !!! Depending on if you allow the closing brackets to be on its own line. There are HUNDREDS of lines of code that are not needed if you only ever use YouTube for ONE LANGUAGE. Be careful what you use for editing this .js because it is writting in both "left to right" and "right to left" languages. It's been a cool "hobby project" for the day. As is, it allows annotations and the best I can determine for any video that CRASHES when using VORAPIS is that the videos use the old style of "annotations" that I didn't even know still existed (my profile blocks them). -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Though I am also not "too proud" to admit that this recent comparison has revealed something. While UXP takes MUCH higher CPU to stream some background music, the video quality is MUCH better in UXP (and I have to assume non-UXP Mozilla). I could *probably* jump through the correct hoops to get the same video quality in Chomium-based. But I really have NO USE for watching videos on YouTube in ANY browser. I do have a use for BACKGROUND NOISE and for that, I don't need to kill my CPU. -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I am perfectly aware that MSFN is "only" for XP and Vista users, but it is still "fair game" to compare these UXP "improvements" to what we Win10 users see with "better browsers". The above CPU and RAM is Serpent 52 on the same EXACT computer as the below "non-UXP". Pretty much any-and-all YouTube content plays for me at UNDER ONE PERCENT CPU WITHOUT HARDWARE ACCELERATION and plays as a background tab my entire work day. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
First video stopped after a few seconds with an error. And always always always crashes for THIS video (anywhere between 30 to 40 second mark) -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiW7NbkhbJ0&list=PL2ZucxOJLzfVRTHxcWt5TjQ2ZCRNjc6TM&index=1 But every video since seems to be working with much less CPU and RAM. So yeah, I'll keep it ARCHIVED. But still will "most likely" not be using UXP for YouTube. But yes, VORAPIS is a "keeper" for those that do YT on UXP. Aside from the CRASH and unknown if that CRASH will be an "everyday occurrence". Other videos play five seconds or so THEN START ALL OVER AGAIN FROM THE BEGINNING, playing those five seconds over again and then continuing. Nope, not enough for me to be using this as my "default". -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
AGREED! I don't use any UXP browser for YouTube. But I'm bored this morning so I'll run a few comparisons just to pass the time. -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
This is Serpent 52 playing one YouTube tab without VORAPIS. Will take me a little while to get the profile up-and-running with VORAPIS for a comparison. Again, I am skeptic and admit that fully right up front. But I am also a no gut feelings sort of guy and FOLLOW THE NUMBERS. Let's see what those NUMBERS tell us. -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Thanks, just downloaded. I fully disclose and admit right up front that I am SKEPTIC that this VORAPIS script is really worth the hassle. But I won't mind being proven wrong, lol. Just upgraded my bare-bones Serpent 52 to the latest-and-greatest. I am still using x86 Serpent 52 on an x64 machine, which I have recently discovered is not exactly ideal. -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I may dig deeper tomorrow. I do admit that I have not (yet?) tried vorapis. edit - I kind of have no use to YouTube (or any type of audio/video streaming) in UXP or even modern Mozilla. But yeah, I suppose vorapis "might" change that. Can't claim to have read enough here to make me see it as a godsend. I guess I'd have to try it for myself to really witness any benefits (or non-benefits). -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I'm assuming that you tested in Serpent 52 also? Or just in New Moon? -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Under what combination of added extensions/scripts? My bare-bones Serpent 52 (only mod is replacing the "dragon" icon) *works* as far as YouTube search box suggestions. Though my Serpent 52 is intentionally stuck at 2023-07-31. I cite this in case THAT may be the issue, that newer versions of Serpent 52 may have accidentally broken YouTube search box suggestions. -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I intentionally block the suggestions via uMatrix. Are you blocking "suggestqueries-clients6.youtube.com" or similar? Perhaps at a non-browser DNS or router level? -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
What is this? -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
The real irony to me is that I have *never*, literally *NEVER* used YouTube in my ENTIRE LIFE. *UNTIL* I became an MSFN member and everybody, and I do mean *everybody*, is constantly citing YT (first time I saw that, it took SEVERAL second to realize that YT = YouTube). -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to Jody Thornton's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
You should ditch vp9 and use avc1/mp4 instead. That's what most "lite" websites do that play YouTube videos but through "their own" web site as a "frontend". And that's what most extensions that claim to boost YouTube performance do, disable vp9 and only allow avc1. -
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NotHereToPlayGames replied to Jody Thornton's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Can you show us the "stats for nerds" window? ie, this: -
Um... Because Chromium-based doesn't have the same "issues" with YouTube playback that plagues Mozilla-based on YouTube. Which is another way of saying "supply and demand, there is no demand and therefore no supply".
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<OT> That's another "feature" I use Proxomitron for, I can access a "modern" page that fetches 3rd-party content but I can redirect that 3rd-party content to a localized archive (css, js, etc). ie, that 3rd-party can do whatever they want, they cannot change what is in my localized archive. </OT>
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I have recently acquired another freebie (the advantage of being the neighborhood Mr. Fix-It). I haven't even opened it up yet to know the specs. Toshiba Satellite L-something. 15.6" laptop. i5, I think. Age would suggest DDR3. I may end up installing Linux (or Win2k) on the Acer Aspire One POS but will wait until this new freebie gets a "nosed, decked, and shaved" Win10 install. Graphics is not a concern. For one, I am not a "gamer". And for two, the rest of MSFN would grow tiresome if I kept showing up to discuss "brightness" changes every other week.