NotHereToPlayGames

As first reported here, I will now see if the latest version finally works for filling in the table for Restore Session.

Your ONE TRACK MIND is missing the BIGGER PICTURE. I'm not reducing this conversation to "variations", YOU ARE. I could CARE LESS about the "variations" tag - IT IS BUT ONE OUT OF THOUSANDS OF DATA POINTS. The bottom line is YOU HAVE AN INTERNET FINGERPRINT. PERIOD. YOU want to act like your "variations" tag is proof that you do not have an internet fingerprint. THAT is your delusion. Again, I could CARE LESS about "variations" tag. YOU serve this fingerprinting discussion ZERO WORTH by always always always reducing it to "variations" alone. I'm done. BRING ASTROSKIPPER TO THE CONVERSATION IF YOU REALLY WISH TO CONTINUE. YOU DO LISTEN TO HIM.

Here, let's break it down this way. Belgium population as of today per Worldometer is 11,744,248. But only 8.6 million of those 11.7 million are internet users per Wikipedia. 3.6 million are fixed broadband, 3.5 million are mobile broadband. And you know that many will overlap and be both. The 3.6 million fixed broadband are not limited to only these three, but the three biggest providers in Belgium are Orange Belgium, Telenet, and VOO. So just by IP Address alone, those 3.6 million are already narrowed down to 1.2 million. And we haven't even touched user agent or "variations" or OS or browser. Just how many people in Belgium do you think have even heard of SUPERMIUM? I guarantee you that using SUPERMIUM has that 1.2 million narrowed down to LESS THAN A HUNDRED! In all of Belgium! WAY LESS! There are only 2.3k "stars" on the GitHub "insights" page. You really need to make sure that SUPERMIUM "looks like" CHROME and not like SUPERMIUM if you are worried about "fingerprints". An EMPTY "variations" field STANDS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB!

I agree. But I think you are still missing a small factoid. A *million* people can install Ungoogled, any version of Ungoogled, on any OS capable of running Ungoogled, and they all share that same exact Unique ID. So "unique" may indeed imply "one number", but it does NOT imply "one person out of billions on the globe".

You're still in denial of the bigger picture. Each and everytime you launch your browser and visit a website, there are THOUSANDS of data points being communicated. A user agent is only one data point out of THOUSANDS. Light mode versus dark mode is only one data point out of THOUSANDS. Whether the browser windows is maximized or not is only one data point out of THOUSANDS. Your IP address... Your ISP... Your OS... Each is but one data point out of THOUSANDS. GeoLocation... Canvas... What codecs you can render... Each is but one data point out of THOUSANDS. Ask your mom! A forensics expert only needs 6 or 7 data points and they have you FINGERPRINTED. If you really think that you are blocking all of the THOUSANDS of data points and somehow have manged to be "off the grid" when ONLINE, you are living a DELUSION!

Same here. I do not use a VPN.

It's not limited to 360Chrome. Certain versions of Thorium and Supermium are also effected. Mine are a version or two behind, so...

That is EASY. I prefer the unique ID number. The goal is to not jump through a hoop that narrows you down. By just ALLOWING the unique ID number of the tiny Ungoogled or the tiny Supermium userbase is one thing. To jump through a hoop by modifying Ungoogled or Supermium to an EMPTY STRING, you just put yourself into a VERY SMALL FRACTIONAL SUBSET of that alreay tiny userbase. I THINK YOU ARE FINALLY CATCHING ON! The goal is to BLEND IN WITH THE CROWD, not jump through hoops to create an EMPTY STRING that makes you STAND OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB.

Where did Dave say that he is not seeing the human verification?

Perhaps we are misunderstanding the intent here. If we are talking about Cloudflare FAILING, then you have to click the Verify you are human checkbox and ONLY THEN does 360Chrome get you to sourceforge.net because the human-check PASSES when you CLICK THE CHECKBOX. If we are talking about NOT LANDING on the Cloudflare human-test page at all, then that is something entirely different. Also, note that you have a RED PADLOCK for the https in the address bar. In Win10, the padlock is GREEN and the certificate is ELLIPTIC CURVE, an algorithm that XP cannot natively do. Though I believe hoops can be jumped through to add this ability (I myself will not be entertaining the how-to).

Dave-H -- Are you testing in Win10 or WinXP? If this is an XP-Only issue, then I would point to "modern SSL" which requires some hoops to be jumped through for XP.

My only suggestion is to TAKE A STEP BACK. Right now, you are only hearing what you WANT to hear. BY ALL MEANS, INVITE ASTROSKIPPER TO THE CONVERSATION, YOU AT LEAST LISTEN TO HIM, EVEN WHEN HE SAYS THE SAME EXACT THING I SAID. Again, take a step back. After you've done that, then consider this simple truth - an EMPTY variation and a ONE-NUMBER variation ARE THE SAME EXACT THING. A full fingerprint can NOT be established by an EMPTY OR A ONE-NUMBER variation. The forenseics expert NEEDS MORE DOTS. Now then, YOU ARE CORRECT that if the variations contains MULTIPLE NUMBERS, then that variation ALONE can be enough "dots" for that forensics expert. But empty, "null", or ONE NUMBER are all the same thing to that forensics expert - "inconclusive, need other dots to establish fingerprint". All users of Ungoogled "share my number". So I'm not being identified, I'm only being narrowed down. Your EMPTY string does the same exact thing. It does not identify you, but it does the same exact "narrowing down". THAT IS HOW FINGERPRINTING WORKS. One data point "narrows down" the list. A second data point "narrows it down further". A third data point "narrows it down even more". Get enough data points and you have narrowed down the entire global population to ONE PERSON.

You are DENSE, you know that? THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. A unique number and EMPTY are the SAME EXACT THING as far as a FINGERPRINT is concerned. IT IS A UNIQUE IDENTIFIER, ONE DOT ON THAT FINGERPRINT.

As do I. I've already proven that to you once. You don't listen. You only hear what you want to hear. But having one variation DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING. A fingerprint is comprised of dozen of dots. Forensics. I don't remember what the "dot" is called, but a "variation" being EMPTY is a rock-solid "dot". Piece that with other "dots", and you are fingerprinted. You really are living a fantasy if you think you haven't been fingerprinted. I will laugh hysterically if you have a Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, or Facebook account but then shout "I have no fingerprint". Yes you do! End of story!

You are living a fantasy. Aren't you the one that sends an EMPTY variation? Doesn't get any more UNIQUE than that. The more you prevent "fingerprints", THE MORE YOU STAND OUT AS UNIQUE. An empty string *IS* a fingerprint! What about that can you not comprehend? Sell your computer, sell your phone, stop paying your ISP, whoala, there's your next step. Done. Stick a fork in me. Debate with some folks is like talking to the wall.

I suppose this could be the same thing that is going on with my credit card. It's also cited on BRAVE browser forums. v122, v123, and v124 of Ungoogled WORK. v121 and lower do NOT work. v125 and higher do NOT work.

Nice conspiracy. But not true. I had to land on the Cloudflare "am I human". For me, it then PASSES. If you want to follow this conspiracy, THEN STOP REPORTING THESE "browser updates" on Cloudflare. THE WORLD YOU ARE STRIVING FOR IS THAT WHEN YOU LAND ON THIS, EXIT THE BROWSER AND NEVER RETURN TO THAT WEB SITE. BUT NO! YOU WANT THE CLOUDFLARE TO *PASS*. YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS - either you want access to the web site, including a passing human verification, OR YOU DO NOT, you can't have it BOTH WAYS.

No issue here. Cloudflare human verification PASSES.

Can you show a pic of your "help about"? ie, what CHROME ENGINE are you getting this on? I cannot get this "out of date" banner/notification/blob even with 360Chrome 13.5 which only uses CHROME ENGINE v86! So Supermium has BROKEN something internally because sourceforge doesn't throw this. As you've said, it's been asked many times, I have yet to EVER witness/confirm/verify ANY of these. My theory is that this is OPERATING SYSTEM. The notification is just GENERIC and says "browser" but IT IS NOT THE BROWSER THAT IT DOESN'T LIKE. That's my theory.

Will give that a try. Never heard of it, to be honest.

Confused. At any rate, no longer matters. WinRAR worked. But do PREFER 7zip so I'll try again. Not really urgent.

So your 7zip kept this folder structure? Mine did not. Did not dig into "why" it did not. I grabbed a "portable WinRAR" and it worked.

Duh! I typed it that way intentionally, because I was quoting "forgotten "Ci" in the code" and felt I should reference it within my reply. Technically, I only looked for "browser.webNavigation". Come to find out that the reason I couldn't find it is because WinRAR and 7zip extract omni.ja differently. I probably "should have" known that, it was specifically cited to use WinRAR but it's not something I have installed on my HOST, had to resort to a VM.

The file structures inside omni.ja are of course different for New Moon 28 and Serpent 52. I could not find any missing browser.webNavigation.stop(Ci.nsIWebNavigation.STOP_ALL); in Serpent 52.