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I've read the linked thread and some others as well, but these simple measures with reset button and power cycling don't change anything. There is an anecdotal evidence that suggests the possibility that rewriting software and data on the router could help, assuming the hardware survived and it's just choking on bad bits. Apparently some people were employing the shunned upon practice of shortening specific pins on the flash chip, which presumably nukes the core operating system and may allow it to be re-uploaded via TFTP (may also need valid settings in NVRAM), but I will avoid shortening and if I'm going to try anything, I want to do it more professionally. It would also indicated whether hardware is still OK if done properly. I have an idea, but being more of a software guy, I have to ask what is probably a banal thing for people tinkering with electronics, but here goes. It's about unused holes on the PCB, where you can solder pin headers, the holes' diameter is 1 millimeter, they're apart about 2,5 millimeters, center to center, presumably this might actually be 2,54 millimeters, at least that's supposed to be the standard, but don't have any more accurate tool to measure exactly. The question is, does the male end of the jumper wire such as this one fit properly in the hole? There is another more detailed picture of presumably the same kind of wire, maybe just different manufacturer. Or would there be an issue, maybe loose and wouldn't conduct properly? I only found two vague hints on the internet it could work, one is below: Source: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/249140/how-can-i-make-connection-on-pcb-circuit-board-holes-without-solder-for-proto The picture below: Another way? This appears to employ press-fit mechanism. I found a pin-header recently that looks like this where you push it in the hole, doesn't require soldering, but not available on Slovenian market. I'd have to find it again as I didn't note the link, I think it's available from DigiKey, unsure about buying from DigiKey as a Slovene, first post about it I found on the other reputable (Slovenian) forum suggests there shouldn't be an issue though. Right now, I'm most curious about whether plugging that wire in the hole directly is a valid step in making a properly working connection from the board's hole that doesn't have any header attached/soldered to it. I'm not going to need a permanent connection to a router's board (in case discussions around the subject mostly imply the need for permanent connection).

100% this IMO. I don't think switch to Chromium 109 is saying much, it seems more like a convenient stopgap to me. For all we know, they might already have a newer one in their development branch. I've read some time ago they had (still have?) the kind of relaxed "work on what you want kind of culture" there. Maybe there's just nobody at the company that likes toying with old OSes? Or there are policies in place that say they can't seriously officially release legacy client (as how would that look?). I don't know, just my thoughts.

Indeed, it's just that that router was the simplest device at hand for the job. Then I also have the smartphone (USB tethering) and the laptop (bridging wired and wireless interface). Router and laptop can both make the PC equal party on the network (could port forward to it if needed) while the smartphone acts as another NAT point. So technically both overkill for enabling simple network access for the PC, phone maybe less, but there isn't any option to stop it from charging to 100% (laptop has it) and I don't like to keep it plugged in at 100% for extended periods of time for battery's health sake. The 9+ years old battery is still holding up. And laptop...well it's a full-blown laptop. Router was the slowest option, supporting only 802.11g, but it's not much of an issue for my usual usage not involving big downloads most of the time. I do have an old TP-LINK wireless card in the basement, it's been years since I've used it, again only 802.11g. I remember that it worked on Windows 7 x64. Thank you for suggestions, I'm not sure yet what I'm going to use at this point. Well right now, I've plugged in the laptop, it could use a bit of exercise since I don't use it often otherwise. BTW, I opened the router. With the definitely good power supply, EasySetup button LED, Power, 1, 2, 3, 4 and Internet LEDs are blinking. No life on either WAN or LAN ports. Nothing looks visually off to me, apart from one LED (Power) which could be turned more straight.

Some of us are impractical and clumsy beyond help. I figured I can borrow another device's power supply as it's compatible (cable modem in my case), output voltage and polarity are the same, only modem's supply is able to deliver 1,5A more than the router's. Using that supply for the router seems to result in all lights blinking forever. I wonder if it's possible that some data got scrambled and would continue to work with a surely working power supply if data corruption was fixed. If bootloader still works, there are chances recovery would be on the easier side. But in any case, this device is hopelessly outdated at this point and any investment seems to come close or exceeding the bother of buying a new cheap router or better for my use case just a wireless USB network adapter. So from economical stand point, specific electronics work might make more sense for someone who is really into electronics.

No idea, tell them to use PDFObject.js instead? One odd thing about this library, judging by the code, it supports detecting PDF support via ActiveX plugin (who uses Internet Explorer for web browsing in 2024?), but not via NPAPI plugin, so it doesn't work for browsers supporting NPAPI whose users may have a decent (maybe even paid-for) PDF support in a browser through a NPAPI plugin, eg. PDF-XChange Editor and probably some other capable programs, which are still better than anything that ever was and dare I say ever will be written in JavaScript for rendering PDFs. Though it wouldn't take much to fix it. But it works nicely for typical Chromium and Firefox, using built-in functionality of the browser. And maybe there are perks to using pdf.js that I'm not aware of? It makes code look nice (syntax highlighting) and shows you have a basic literacy when it comes to using forum software. I've always felt roytam1's endless commit logs should be wrapped in a spoiler tag. Forum is primarily discussion focused, for the rest you can go to GitHub or do git clone and git log or whatever.

It's not their own, it's the same thing Mozilla Firefox ships with, maybe different version, it's called pdf.js, indeed written in JavaScript.

There's already a thread about it in dedicated section for web browsers. https://msfn.org/board/topic/185045-supermium/

Maybe something like: manifest.json { "manifest_version": 2, "name": "Polyfillz", "version": "1", "description": "Monkey patch old Chrome to add new JavaScript functionalities.", "content_scripts": [ { "matches": [ "<all_urls>" ], "js": [ "content.js" ], "run_at": "document_start", "all_frames": true } ], "web_accessible_resources": [ "polyfills.js" ] } content.js 'use strict'; const script = document.createElement('script'); script.setAttribute('src', chrome.runtime.getURL('polyfills.js')); (document.head || document.documentElement).appendChild(script); script.remove(); polyfills.js 'use strict'; if (!Array.prototype.at) { Array.prototype.at = function(index) { if (index >= 0) { return this[index]; } else { return this[this.length + index]; } }; }

As suspected, reset button doesn't budge, Capacitors, more and more often I read about them. Guess I've been pretty lucky with them so far, the only problem is that I'm useless at soldering.

So, the world has come to an end. Part of my world at least...I returned home today and there were no lights on the router. There was a power outage earlier in my area, I'm assuming it coming back was a shock that wasn't taken well. Unsure what to do now, what to try first. The thing is, it's behaving in a way that I didn't find about online. You plug it in, then "Power", "Internet" and "4" (it indicates the number of LAN port) lights light up and stay on for several seconds, then it's all dark again. The usual sequence starts with "Power" light blinking and most often when something is wrong, it just blinks forever. I wonder if it could be that the power supply is broken. My workplace happens to have this model, maybe I could bring the router with me and try it with that power supply. The other idea is hard reset, but due to weird behavior, I'm sceptical about either different power supply or hard reset helping, have a feeling something's cooked in there.

This probably refers to Array.prototype.at().

What about compatibility of these varieties with old low-RAM laptops? GitHub easily wastes gigabytes in modern Chromium. ... And this is a 100% pure Googl-ism , as the Browser compatibility table there indicates that feature as present in Google Chrome 1.0 (!), released 2008-12-11, but only implemented in Mozilla Firefox starting with v66.0, released more than 11 years (!) later ... http://www.quirksmode.org/js/events_access.html

Some interesting insights regarding memory leaks and CPU usages spikes. It's a recurring topic and it appears it will stay that way unless something changes radically, either the web at large or the web browser.

And change what exactly? How does it effect GDI rendering? I wonder if the program even works with driver 355.98. NVIDIA's graphics drivers for XP are such a crapshoot. You have to be a programmer to even set display scaling, which I didn't know it was possible until I recently found some old NV API docs from around 2005.

Hm, yeah, I guess without ears, all the talking goes to the void.

Pffft, we're on BCD now, why would discussing legacy deprecated boo INI be allowed on forum about Microsoft software? Oh wait, that's what most discussions are about...I think the forum should be renamed to MLDSFN (Microsoft Legacy Deprecated Software Forum Network). It seems embedding is broken in general, even posts from this forum. Can post plain URL link, but can't embed it.

It was mentioned here. I suppose it could have a dedicated thread. The new version was released few hours ago.

Vivaldi has it and while the rest of the UI is still custom rendered like Chrome, it's much expanded functionality-wise compared So it could be done, but people would always find something to complain about. Am I the only one who finds all these browser discussions really monotone at this point? The only odd XPs I still see in the wild once in the blue moon have Firefox 52 or Chrome 49 at best, so probably not much (any?) web browsing is done on them.

Na-ah, that just breaks other applications. I don't have a problem with chrome.dll having to be relocated at runtime. Can still move Chrome's DLLs a bit further from default address, which is better approach since those are larger than api* ones. rebase.exe -b 10040000 chrome.dll libEGL.dll libGLESv2.dll vk_swiftshader.dll vulkan-1.dll Actually this has improved things for me - thanks! as it turned out, that didn't help much if at all; at least on my Dell 745 Optiplex. This flag is pointless since what it disables is non-functional on XP to begin with. And there's a checkbox for it in the settings anyway. I never use disable that on supported systems anyway, it's basically saying: "I don't want to use my graphics card that I paid good money for, I prefer the slow laggy and choppy graphics content, animations and scrolling." Or: "My onboard GPU and drivers suck so I have to turn the acceleration off to avoid bugs and glitches."

Translation: You can run the browser executable with -purgecaches command-line argument. Or set an environment variable MOZ_PURGE_CACHES to 1. If present at browser startup, should clean its caches then.

LOL, but seriously, when you look at the hardware manufactured today, you cannot not notice the insignificance of the old gear. Not that you couldn't make a lighter browser, just don't expect it from Google. Though such browser probably couldn't support all the mess they've thought up should be supported by a web browser. I didn't mention FF or Mozilla specifically. There's still Moonchild Productions and The SeaMonkey Association.

Aye, x64 flavor, but like I said, the ones in system32/SysWOW64 folders seem to have been bundled with .NET Framework 3, it's not included with XP. So if the only evr.dll is in MPC-HC folder, then deleting it would make EVR unavailable.

Looks like you have to enable chrome://flags/#enable-search-engine-choice to get it. But yeah, it's Chromium, not something I'm too excited about in general, it's just bad for the health of WWW. I can have 3 YT tabs open and 3 lighter sites, the computer RAM usage is still below 3 GB, about 2,9 GB, adding GMail brings it to 3,2 GB. 10 extensions active. Vanilla full-featured XP x64. Maybe some people need to rebase one of the DLLs? At least if chrome.dll is marked in orange on Modules tab of chrome.exe properties in Process Hacker. Can't say I notice any leaks. I wonder if there's any other flag besides --no-sandbox that would work-around the disappearing fonts that seems to happen in combination with Stylus. I haven't actually tried yet if this one even works at all in this Chromium, but it helped with at least one version of the old 360Chrome 13. General browsing is pretty snappy here, but things optimized to use GPU are slow, auto-scrolling also has a heavy feel to it. This is on old price/performance oriented gaming hardware from 2009, I don't count a newer GPU since it can't be utilized here, but older decent computers are still OK for heavy web browsers. Although MSFN often gives me the impression the only acceptable option is to buy only one computer in the lifetime and take it to the grave.

So EVR is seemingly restricted in rendering videos in limited 16-235 color range on XP. Or is there a workaround or a missing update?

Looks like a Chromium with typical limitations like the older variants. Guess it's good to pay the bills if your whatever-provider's site sucks so badly. No need for polyfills. Also why is only Google on the built-in search engine list? It did crash on first startup on my XP x64 (only tried 32-bit version), but afterwards it was OK. OS is not updated beyond 2011/2012, except an odd crypt32.dll update from 2015. Laggy transitions/animations on websites, eg. changing pages on this forum, laggy videos (also doesn't prevent screen turning off during playback) etc. So CPU struggles while GPU has nothing to do. I see people being hyped up about Win2K support and what not, but, why? There's a charm in small footprint of period correct applications. Why would you want that monstrosity there? 32-bit chrome.dll is almost two hundred f***in' megabytes! 64-bit is obviously already beyond that. I don't know, maybe I'm just too old to "dig" today's kids' crazy ideas. PS.: Not this crap with the fonts again!