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That said, I could live with it when it comes to general browsing where it's not the end of the world unless you're too picky, but when it comes to heavy stuff, including Google Street View...well things like that could be the the reason to take Chrome, unless you already use it as main browser, I still prefer the alternatives in general, despite their flaws...

It seems there's something about memory compression in Win10/11 that keeps some of those values down (I disabled it recently for testing). Physical memory usage didn't increase much with opening that Reddit page, maybe 100 - 200 MB.

I was just scrolling through one comments page on (new) Reddit and it made private bytes figure of palemoon.exe in System Informer go up by about a gigabyte (Win11, 32-bit Pale Moon 33.0.2), same in page file window of System Informer. Not sure I saw that gigabyte anywhere in Task Manager, at least it wasn't under any paged category.

I don't know what uBO users at large value as super important, there are a lot of under the hood changes, one of the things that stood out to me were filters using $removeparam, AdGuard URL Tracking Filter list uses those exclusively for removing tracking parameters from URLs when navigating web pages. Number of changes, including this one, come from later versions that saw much code cleanup, meaning, in layman terms, you can't copy-paste code directly from web extension. There's loads of now closed issues that were opened once for the extension... Also newer versions have some code parts written in WebAssembly for performance reasons. Anyway, don't look at me for big updates, I hate programming...maybe I'll still try to get some of the easier stuff into the old extension, not right now though as I'm not in the right place mentally. The older I get, the more software seems like politics. A bunch of bickering how to achieve certain result...

I think I'll try either browser on XP again next time when/if GPU acceleration makes a comeback. Right now, Win10/Win11 with all the background processes still have SIGNIFICANT advantage running Chromium on my (aging) hardware. Though you could also say XP hasn't seen significant changes in over a decade. But in either case, latest Chrome and retro don't go together too well. It's a bit like trying to get Grand Theft Auto V going on PlayStation 2. I wouldn't expect much on very old computers.

Actually, mine just has a floppy connector, I don't have any actual floppy drive available anymore. But you can put FreeDOS on USB flash drive and browse mostly simple web sites with Links as there's a network driver available that actually works with onboard NVIDIA Ethernet adapter (on ASUS M3N78 motherboard). It's pretty quiet in DOS though. Last time I played with it, there was a newer audio player available which name I don't recall that was supposed to work with Intel HD Audio compatible sound chips and even port of Quake II game to DOS (called Q2DOS), also claiming being able to output sound through those, though the latter only detected the chip name, both programs were silent. Yeah, I also write as much it comes to me.

System requirements mention XP SP1. SP1! Where are those days... 99% of developers wouldn't even mention it as it's usually support nightmare (dealing with updateless OS). But number of people seem to have weird beliefs about updates, thinking they're smarter running without them and expecting everything to run smoothly regardless.

The only XP I ran in recent times is installed on bare metal, virtual machines suck for fun stuff, unless maybe with specific setup that I'm not too familiar with and is probably too much bother anyway...if I reboot, XP gets all available hardware resources...until capacitors on this old thing still work, I can still mess around with it and have eXPerience as was meant to be.

The second one you also mentioned previously, but I didn't change any settings, "Acceptable Ads" is enabled by default...if this is actually considered an ad by AdBlock.

Add to your filters at your own risk: www.youtube.com##.ytp-ce-element

I think you'll need to elaborate on your Chromium config, specifically the list that makes a difference in AdBlock extension. Those things you're showing never really bothered me, but I tried AdBlock extension on Edge and they don't disappear there either.

Not sure if this is relevant when it comes to website manipulating extensions (ignoring limitations of Manifest V3). These types of extensions have pretty much surpassed those available for UXP browsers. At least I have trouble finding useful extensions for UXP browsers of that kind. UXP looks more like a browser platform catering specifically to programmers rather than simple users who just want things to work (I'm in the latter camp...).

@NotHereToPlayGames When it comes to uBO's default lists, most YouTube filtering is taken care of from uBlock filters – Ads, I'd have to check whether the ones from uBlock filters – Quick Fixes add anything important for that particular site, I keep it enabled though. Filters mainly clear up responses from their servers dealing with video content, stripping bits that insert ads, basically a bunch of JavaScript proxies intercepting fetch/XMLHttpRequest calls.

He might be rebasing his build on top of Supermium now as Chromium updates every 5 minutes and keeping up with it must be crazy and that was probably the most efficient way to catch up and it presented the opportunity to make a build that runs on XP. Still, are there any other Chromium builds with that specific patchset? They do make it a unique build.

I liked the presentation. Programming is really a royal PITA. Sometimes I forget about that.

While interesting project on its own, I can't get past that these super modern browsers in relation to old OS just feel weird and out of place on XP. Perhaps I'm too used to how they work in their native environment. I probably only have XP still installed because I hang on this forum too much... A lot of times these forums feel like people on them already know everything. I know some things but I'm too dumb for many others...funny how on forums it can easily happen, you post a question that apparently no one knows an answer to, and before you know it, in few short days, your thread is left behind on page #4 and counting. Even relatively frequent visitors probably won't be checking that far back, even if they might know something. Regarding legacy technology, that old WRT54GL router must have been the last truly legacy piece of technology I have. My PC got some old stuff, connectors like LPT, serial, even floppy, but then it can also run Win10 and even Win11, a least up-to December 2023 builds. That router is something else though, with processor speed measured in megahertz. But I'm not sure I can revive it, I had the idea to check those capacitors, just to see if they still work, but I still don't feel confident about desoldering them and don't want to bother anyone else with it. Though I think there's a good chance the power surge took out another more important component. Maybe I would have saved it if I dumped that power supply years ago, it was getting way too hot. Maybe that was best they could do back then, but I'm not sure...it was a budget router after all. Little money, little music. Kinda crazy times we live in, sometimes I think the digitalization has gotten out of hand. My car got a software update for its infotainment system last week. I also randomly discovered these types of units have a local database containing metadata about radio stations that you can manually update using a USB flash stick. https://www.phonostar.de/vw/en/download Who knew?

That's some bizarre jumping through hoops. Converting CSS directives expressed in em to px...WTF? Makes one question the *underlying code quality. Reminds of all the weird bugs in old games I used to patch...now I can't even see that x86 ASM crap anymore... Both Supermium and Thorium still feel like Win10/11 browsers with band aid to run on XP. [*] I meant Chromium's code quality in general.

On the bright side, I like the extended support for compressed archives. I've been using the good 'ol QTTabBar for several years now, it has the function to open folder in-place, a sort of popup with folder content appears if you click the down arrow that appears when hovering over certain spot with mouse near the folder. Extended support for such archives (7Z, TAR, RAR...) means the function works for peeking inside those as well, not just ZIPs. Is it an older printer? If it's semi-modern printer, chances are they could just print from their phones.

Correct.

Good tab on the left, broken on the right. Funny I only get this on Pale Moon forum recently, was easier to get it on all sorts of web sites on 360Chrome. Maybe if I used custom user CSS (with Stylus, which seems to be one of the factors involved in triggering it) on bigger variety of sites rather than few specific ones, I would encounter it more often. But many factors have changed since running 360Chrome without --no-sandbox for longer sessions and it's been a while since. The only CSS targeting Pale Moon forum, specifically URLs starting with https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php: div.postbody div.content div[title="This is considered off-topic for the current thread."] { opacity: unset !important; background-color: unset !important; border: 1px solid rgb(175, 175, 175) !important; }

When I tried Supermium for the first time, --no-sandbox parameter made the browser fail entirely, hard-crashed. Right now, it seems to work as a workaround for font corruption issue. So no playing in the sandbox, that sounds messed up, can't sell that to kids! I get couple of these after startup if I use 64-bit version of the browser, maybe 2 or 3 of them, then they stop appearing, no idea what's the deal with that either.

You haven't found anything I don't know yet. That site is triggering filters containing "redirect-rule=", it's not hitting any filters that contain "redirect=", so nothing is logged in 1.16.4.30. But if any such filter using "redirect=" would be hit, redirection itself would be logged just like in 1.6.16b1.

Still glitchy for me...disappearing fonts and such, though it seems harder to reproduce than on old 360Chrome. Someone mentioned Thorium, no differences as far as bugs on XP are concerned, may be few extra issues regarding Thorium specific functionality (h.265 decoding?).

Technically, they're not really conventional files for main part of the operation, they live as memory resident data structures that can be obtained using a name resembling a file name, basically JavaScript Map containing a bunch of objects, each containing MIME type, encoding and the actual data. Initially they're read from assets/ublock/resources.txt in the XPI file, on subsequent extension startups they'll be read from the ublock0.sqlite database most of the time. These resources are updatable via online repository in these older versions. You'd have to set that setting in the older version as well if you wanted the exact same behavior in that regard. Redirection concept was introduced in version 1.4.0. "uBlock filters – Ads" filter list for instance has more filters using "redirect-rule" rather than "redirect". "redirect-rule" by itself doesn't do anything, it's only effective in combination with another blocking filter, that's the difference between the two.

The difference is 1.16.6b1 understands "redirect-rule" directive, these explicitly state blocking of target resource is optional, so when the request to such resource is issued, it will be redirected even in presence of another blocking filter. These filters are usually written to redirect to local empty/stub resource. That test website appears to fetch number of files from various ad domains. I suppose it expects fetches to fail entirely, which doesn't happen when it's being redirected. So uBlock still prevented access to resource the site was asking for, but rather than making it look like it failed, it just returned a local empty file. noop.txt would be an empty text file while noop.js would be a JavaScript file that executes a function that doesn't do anything. I see an issue with the logger here that logs redirection taking place, but not the filter that caused it.