Jody Thornton

Sounds like an idea. I have a few I modded (but without permission), so I wonder what fair use rights would be entailed there. But when I get home, I can upload them.

Hi Folks: I installed the registry crack on my mom's system back in the fall and installed several updates on her XP system. I expected last week to return and install more updates but none showed up in Windows Updates. Now I know there's already an elongated thread on POSReady updates but I just wondered if this specific issue has showed up for anyone else. (Now it has has occured to me that my mom is respondiong to Automatic Updates prompts and is installing them, but not telling me...lol), but I thought I'd check in and see if anyone is experiencing no critical updates showing up in the list. There are two optional POSReady Updates, but I'm concerned about installing those. Cheers!

I loved Royale Noir. I made some mods to it and used it for the longest time.

Well some clarifications, although I REALLY loved Windows 2000 Professional as well. Just enough glitz to make it fun to use (fade menus and mouse shadows for example) but better stability and performance with a smaller footprint than its bloated successors: I wouldn't say that Windows 2000 Professional was really gaining any dominance. In 2000, ME was on all new consumer notebooks and PCs, and most consumers and businesses stuck with Windows 98 SE. I also wouldn't say that Windows 2000 was the OS that brought the NT Kernel to the consumer masses. That was XP. It really should have been 2000 (as Microsoft intended it that way), but I guess not everything was ironed out just yet. Microsoft was working on the Neptune build of 2000 (which would be akin to Windows XP Home Edition), but that never became a completed product. The funny thing is, as more games were written for Windows XP, those became compatible with Windows 2000 as well, so it would have been more usable in the home (just not as fancy and glitzy) There seems to be the thought that 2000 and XP should be supported indefinitely. I used to share that sentiment especially in regards to 2000 and XP x64 Edition. But having since migrated to Vista, and getting used to some of the differences that OS offers, I do feel that Windows has improved. So I can better understand Microsoft moving on I suppose.

Apparently Build 9879 will be the final preview issued until after the New Year. Then Microsoft plans on rolling out Consumer Previews. This was on WinBeta. Sorry I should have fetched the link.

@Anx (oooooh - Royale Noir? the theme I mean?)

Yes you can run the app again, and it uninstalls the theme and restore whatever "Aero" theme you had on previously. Now you may need to widen the borders and change fonts again (that may provide to be a small nuisance...lol). But it can be all fixed back.

Here's the second one showing the Classic Shell Start Menu, Control Panel and "This PC" properties.

Here are some screenshots with the new revision, plus Classic Shell. I also imported my Vista classic desktop metrics and colours.

I'll provide the link and EVEN BETTER NEWS. He just posted a new version a couple of days days ago. Now IE 11 and the taskbar work with aplomb! http://bertrand.deo.free.fr/TEMP/w8classic.zip The only bug I can see is that Control Panel -> Personalization does not render. Other than that, unzip the executable, run it, and then after log off and back in again. Then run the executable again to patch IE 11 (so it now appears like classic looking IE), and then also choose the "Configure Theme" button to access Advanced Properties (just like you used to in Vista and 7)

Just another to show the file/save dialog box. (EDIT!!! I had to remove the old image to upload the new ones below)

Well, since this thread is about usable desktops, I had asked on some other thread in the Windows 8x section whether or not the classic desktop was actually just buried underneath Aero in Windows 8.1. I believed it had been, so I downloaded a tool into my 8.1 VM, and though it appeared risky, I was about to turf the VM anyway. It claims to restore the classic desktop. Well, there are some rough edges, but it does restore the classic desktop non-skinned elements for real. (EDIT!!! I had to remove the old image to upload the new ones below)

If rapid release does take hold (and the update engine IS indeed being reworked - though on the Tech Prview it's still like 8.1) I would hate if I like a particular feature on a certain revision (say 10.5). Then let's say the feature is permanently changed on 10.6. I would not be able to stay at 10.5 because the following updates will be pushed to customers.

I've been running the last two release candidates, and now the full version. I never thought that K-Meleon would make it, but I'm glad to stand corrected.

10 was chosen to mark that this will be the final full release of Microsoft Windows. After the release of 10, updates will be once monthly (ala rapid release style like Google Chrome). Technically, it seems that the re-engineering of Windows Update methodologies are the feature of Windows 10.

Well at first the service appeared in the Service Manager as "termsrv". I restarted Vista, and it appeared as "Terminal Services". I disabled the service, and after another restart, the messages disappeared from Event Viewer (I cleaned out Event Viewer, of course)

It's Official! Windows 10 it is. http://live.theverge.com/microsoft-windows-9-event-live-blog/#/

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/91916-terminal-services-missingsystem-even-notifications/

Oft in the future here...lol. What I ended up doing was extracting termserv.dll and termserv.dll.mui from the Install.wim package on the original Vista DVD-ROM. I placed termserv.dll in \windows\system32 and termserv.dll.mui in \windows\system32\en-us. I was now able to disable the service in the services applet. The notifications are gone...!

If you edit win.ini, you will find the section for MS Shell Dlg = {x} MS Shell Dlg 2 = {x} {x} is usually MS Sans Serif. Change that to Tahoma or whatever else you like. It should work.

The OP's transverse question seems to me to be equivalent to your unasked question #3, and both seem to me to be improperly phrased, because both the adoption of WES 2009, or the spoofing of it, will, at most, accomplish the OS continuing to be patched... but neither can possibly keep *"them"* getting patched!!! However, everybody here (me included) seems to have concluded that the OP really-really meant "the best way to having the OS continue to be patched", so that, if so, question #3 has actually been asked. Holy Crap! Just answer the poor guy's question. Talk about semantics. I cannot believe the flaming BS I took from you idiots, for stuff just like this, but it's OK if you guys do the same crap. Man, talk about club mentality.

Now that's rich! I did something along those lines and got flamed off the board. I check in now and then, but Christ, am I ever glad I left.

It may very well annoy more people (my bringing XP up) than submix8c's behaviour dencorso, but as per the point the OP was making; just don't read it then. There are others that DO NOT feel the way you or submix8c feel. After all, I'm not the ONLY guy discussing the topics. By contrast, there are topics that annoy me too, but I don't tell others to keep quiet. I just don't read it. Why is that such a problematic concept? (not angry, just trying to understand) See dencorso, you might be more more accepting of submix8c's antics because you've known him longer, but not all of us do, or find that behaviour any more acceptable than you find my repetitive topics. Trust me, that sort of contestant "clubhouse" or "entitlement" behaviour scares valuable input away. It scares new blood away. Anyway, I responded to bphlpt as eloquently as I could. I think what is said there is valid. I do appreciate you opposite viewpoint dnecorso.

Now see, you've demonstrated how two people who don't agree 100% can still value each other's viewpoint and not act belittling to each other. I will say unlike you perhaps, I don't explicitly value or recognize things such as how many times someone has posted here in the past or even donated (so what?) but if one takes time to share their knowledge in a friendly manner, that can be valuable. I didn't want to sound defensive, but like the OP feels, I still maintain revisiting topics can bring a different light depending on different people's input. So what may be annoying to some, well all I can say was that the OP was right: there are other people still chiming in the conversation. So it doesn't annoy everyone. And we should feel free to carry on our conversation if it interests us. Some people are extremely detail oriented and want many points of view on a topic. Perfect case in point; here in Ontario the Rob Ford scandal is making HUGE inroads, and I'm THOROUGHLY sick of it. Every talks about it ad nauseum. However, I would never say to media forum posters to pipe down, or tell Jimmy Kimmel to put a lid on it. Everyone has an opinion on it, and rehashes the same points, but it's not going away, nor should it. I just don't read it. To me, XP was like a computer version of Rob Ford. What other big story is there in the "Windows" world? See what I mean? Having said that, I do recognize your viewpoint. (and even submix8c's; but he should have been nicer about it; that's all) Well bphlpt, thank you very much for your thoughtful perspective. It does make me feel a tad better. We don't have to agree, but we can do it without yanking out each other's hair. Cheers to you too my friend. Jody

THAT, sir, is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, now is it? You're a strange person, man. Why? Other people seem to want to talk to me. So you want to deny them that? This is how Internet forums work: A person posts a topic. If people want to respond, they will. If they don't, they won't. You're acting like you--and everyone else who has responded--is somehow being forced to do so. If you don't want to be a part of this conversation, then it's simple: Don't. Ah; you found out submix8c likes to bite when he doesn't get his way. I stopped posting here recently because I realized that if you're not part of the club, and some people here are not interested in your conversation or focus on Windows, they get all irritated. Not to say that there aren't good folks here; because there are. But idiots are always loudest. The only reason I posted today, because I was glad to see I'm not the only one who gets bitten by submix8c. He owns the board you know...lol. It's his way or the Highway. No revisiting topics for a fresh perspective, and no speculation on Windows XP's afterlife, none of that. He doesn't get that it's a public forum - FOR EVERYONE. Although it was funny; he tells me on one occasion to Google something more often when he though I was lacking detail on a point (I see he did that to you earlier in this thread as well). So then on a later occasion, he "discovers" that MSE for Vista and 7 will install on Windows XP x64 (sounding a bit like a chest gloating superstar). But if submix8c would have Googled or checked the forum, he would see that I reavealed that already. But see, I'm not "part of the club" so what I say matters none. Too bad too, because there are lots of GOOD people here, but submix8c almost singlehandedly soured my experience. If you look up submix8c in a thesaurus, I'm sure you'll find a list of obscene words that can't be repeated. Just to show a further smaple of his peachy demeanour, check out this thread. He's such a treat. http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/155511-x64-edition-updates-until-2015/page-2