Jody Thornton

I run MSE (the x86 Vista/7 install) on Windows Server 2003. It works quite well, though I do realize that it's not officially supported. However, the last updates show the same "support ending" message that showed up on Windows XP last year. Now, I guess I'm surprised that the code in the Vista/7 installer would detect Server 2003 as XP, but moreover, I'm surprised that this installer would even have the end of support message. My hope was that since MSE in not even supposed to recognize Server 2003, that it would just keep running without issue until January 2020. After all, I used the installation file for Windows Vista and 7. So I went back to v4.304.4 (I think that's right...lol). It takes current definition updates, and keeps running without the notice. I wondered if any one might've know another way around this perhaps. Cheers All! (EDIT - Ooops, I meant to write "without" the notice. That has been corrected. Sorry for the confusion)

I'm usually a later adopter, but while the system is in development, I usually am in anticipation mode, and I'm usually very excited about upcoming versions of Windows. But like you, not so much this time.

Hey Noel, I'm with you on dates/times on files in Explorer. I think that started on Vista, because I have files that show as "Today". (I use Explorer++ as a file management replacement. It works enough like how I had XP's Explorer set up) Also I agree about defeating UAC and Indexing easily enough. (I have a good search tool, which reminds me of the old Windows 95 style search. Hey it worked!) I also hate the caption buttons on the last couple 10 TP builds. Even going back to the Windows 8x style would be an improvement.

Stick to your guns Noel. Last year I had left this forum, because a couple strong arm types were angry with my speculation of how security issues/concerns might affect Windoiws XP's end of life. But see everyone should get a chance to an opinion, and so should you. (And yes, submix8c, I apologize for going off the handle with you. I don't fault myself for why I did it, but I certainly overreacted. Fair? ) In the end though I find I'm more of a similar opinion to you folks than on the Ten Forums, where everyone seems to exalt Windows 10 TP. One fellow, Jeff (who goes by Bunny J) though nice enough, seems to agree with absolutely EVERYTHING that Microsoft presents with 10 TP. He acts almost too agreeable, like the way a fan boy would be. It becomes irksome after awhile, because I really don't get what's so great about 10. In fact, I prefer 8.1 with Classic Shell. But all of their forum members seem to clump together to go on and on about 10 TP's greatness.

Go to this site. He has a whole boatload of compatible 2K3 Updates for XP x64 Edition: http://wp.xin.at/xp-x64-post-mortem-updates

Darn; I was hoping they'd bring back Presto and the classic 8.x theme.

Some links that might be valuable (just be cautious with them of course) http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/80511-winxp-guide-making-your-windows-folder-smaller/ http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/316422-slimming-down-windows-xp/ !!!! But this page is quite valuable !!!! http://www.graphixanstuff.com/Forum/index.php?showforum=68

I would eventually move to 10, but I hate some things like the new Start Menu and the caption buttons on the last build. I find that 8.1 runs well (I tried it in a VM and didn't hate it)

Well it does have to do with Vista's extended phase support expiry. If I jump to Windows 8.1 (which I can tailor to my liking), I will need a new machine with UEFI so I can run the x64 build. My HP xw8200 workstation is not compatible Bios-wise (I don't believe it is anyway). I do like to stay with an updateable OS, but I realize that the end of the world doesn't arrive with the end of extended=-phase support.

So if that is the case, there will have to be two sets of updates between Classic and R2, since the codebases are different, right?

Did you ever get the issue fixed as well? Mine is.

It does seem that the pushed updates are gonna happen, though yes, I do aggree that it appears you'd be prompted for such updates to be installed. I have to admit that I've lost interest in the Windows 10 TP. I'm staying put with Vista SP2 and running it until April 2017. At that point, I'll get a new machine and install Windows 8.1 (x64 build)

I ran and scanned it with a number of scanners, but never found an issue. My system still works, but I did use it in a Windows 8.1 VM.

I've been running Vista Ultimate x64 Edition (SP2 integrated) for just over a year, and it smokes. XP x64 Edition ran a hair more responsively, but it's hardly noticeable. I tried and supported Vista in its RTM days and it was crap (REALLY slow), but on a good machine with SP2 integrated, there's no issue now. Am I right in assessing the x64 build as more stable as well? I've just never seemed to like the x86 build of Vista, but the x64 build seems "better".

Well if Server 2008 "Classic" is getting updates, I might be able to stretch out Vista for a little longer if there is a source of patched updates. I really like my Vista system. I admit that I really loved Windows XP x64 Edition, and just to add salt to that wound...lol, there is a fellow who patches XP 64-bit Edition updates from Server 2003, so I could have stayed with XP x64 Edition in the end. However, that would have meant that in July, I would've had to migrate over to another OS. Whereas now that I've made the jump to Vista last year (Feb 2014), that is all behind me now.

Well thank you for the detailed answer. I had the font issues on that same update in Vista (while running the Pale Moon browser). Uninstalling the update fixed it. I will try to quiz my mom and see if she installed updates (plus I should have looked at the update history)

A lot of Vista users seem to think that since Server 2008 R2 will receive extended phase updates until 2020 (since it shares the same codebase as Windows 7), that Server 2008 "Classic" will also get updates. Has this been officially spoken of somewhere? I would think that as of April 2017, Server 2008 users will need to migrate to R2, no? Cheers!

Sounds like an idea. I have a few I modded (but without permission), so I wonder what fair use rights would be entailed there. But when I get home, I can upload them.

Hi Folks: I installed the registry crack on my mom's system back in the fall and installed several updates on her XP system. I expected last week to return and install more updates but none showed up in Windows Updates. Now I know there's already an elongated thread on POSReady updates but I just wondered if this specific issue has showed up for anyone else. (Now it has has occured to me that my mom is respondiong to Automatic Updates prompts and is installing them, but not telling me...lol), but I thought I'd check in and see if anyone is experiencing no critical updates showing up in the list. There are two optional POSReady Updates, but I'm concerned about installing those. Cheers!

I loved Royale Noir. I made some mods to it and used it for the longest time.

Well some clarifications, although I REALLY loved Windows 2000 Professional as well. Just enough glitz to make it fun to use (fade menus and mouse shadows for example) but better stability and performance with a smaller footprint than its bloated successors: I wouldn't say that Windows 2000 Professional was really gaining any dominance. In 2000, ME was on all new consumer notebooks and PCs, and most consumers and businesses stuck with Windows 98 SE. I also wouldn't say that Windows 2000 was the OS that brought the NT Kernel to the consumer masses. That was XP. It really should have been 2000 (as Microsoft intended it that way), but I guess not everything was ironed out just yet. Microsoft was working on the Neptune build of 2000 (which would be akin to Windows XP Home Edition), but that never became a completed product. The funny thing is, as more games were written for Windows XP, those became compatible with Windows 2000 as well, so it would have been more usable in the home (just not as fancy and glitzy) There seems to be the thought that 2000 and XP should be supported indefinitely. I used to share that sentiment especially in regards to 2000 and XP x64 Edition. But having since migrated to Vista, and getting used to some of the differences that OS offers, I do feel that Windows has improved. So I can better understand Microsoft moving on I suppose.

Apparently Build 9879 will be the final preview issued until after the New Year. Then Microsoft plans on rolling out Consumer Previews. This was on WinBeta. Sorry I should have fetched the link.

@Anx (oooooh - Royale Noir? the theme I mean?)

Yes you can run the app again, and it uninstalls the theme and restore whatever "Aero" theme you had on previously. Now you may need to widen the borders and change fonts again (that may provide to be a small nuisance...lol). But it can be all fixed back.

Here's the second one showing the Classic Shell Start Menu, Control Panel and "This PC" properties.