Jody Thornton

So if that is the case, there will have to be two sets of updates between Classic and R2, since the codebases are different, right?

Did you ever get the issue fixed as well? Mine is.

It does seem that the pushed updates are gonna happen, though yes, I do aggree that it appears you'd be prompted for such updates to be installed. I have to admit that I've lost interest in the Windows 10 TP. I'm staying put with Vista SP2 and running it until April 2017. At that point, I'll get a new machine and install Windows 8.1 (x64 build)

I ran and scanned it with a number of scanners, but never found an issue. My system still works, but I did use it in a Windows 8.1 VM.

I've been running Vista Ultimate x64 Edition (SP2 integrated) for just over a year, and it smokes. XP x64 Edition ran a hair more responsively, but it's hardly noticeable. I tried and supported Vista in its RTM days and it was crap (REALLY slow), but on a good machine with SP2 integrated, there's no issue now. Am I right in assessing the x64 build as more stable as well? I've just never seemed to like the x86 build of Vista, but the x64 build seems "better".

Well if Server 2008 "Classic" is getting updates, I might be able to stretch out Vista for a little longer if there is a source of patched updates. I really like my Vista system. I admit that I really loved Windows XP x64 Edition, and just to add salt to that wound...lol, there is a fellow who patches XP 64-bit Edition updates from Server 2003, so I could have stayed with XP x64 Edition in the end. However, that would have meant that in July, I would've had to migrate over to another OS. Whereas now that I've made the jump to Vista last year (Feb 2014), that is all behind me now.

Well thank you for the detailed answer. I had the font issues on that same update in Vista (while running the Pale Moon browser). Uninstalling the update fixed it. I will try to quiz my mom and see if she installed updates (plus I should have looked at the update history)

A lot of Vista users seem to think that since Server 2008 R2 will receive extended phase updates until 2020 (since it shares the same codebase as Windows 7), that Server 2008 "Classic" will also get updates. Has this been officially spoken of somewhere? I would think that as of April 2017, Server 2008 users will need to migrate to R2, no? Cheers!

Sounds like an idea. I have a few I modded (but without permission), so I wonder what fair use rights would be entailed there. But when I get home, I can upload them.

Hi Folks: I installed the registry crack on my mom's system back in the fall and installed several updates on her XP system. I expected last week to return and install more updates but none showed up in Windows Updates. Now I know there's already an elongated thread on POSReady updates but I just wondered if this specific issue has showed up for anyone else. (Now it has has occured to me that my mom is respondiong to Automatic Updates prompts and is installing them, but not telling me...lol), but I thought I'd check in and see if anyone is experiencing no critical updates showing up in the list. There are two optional POSReady Updates, but I'm concerned about installing those. Cheers!

I loved Royale Noir. I made some mods to it and used it for the longest time.

Well some clarifications, although I REALLY loved Windows 2000 Professional as well. Just enough glitz to make it fun to use (fade menus and mouse shadows for example) but better stability and performance with a smaller footprint than its bloated successors: I wouldn't say that Windows 2000 Professional was really gaining any dominance. In 2000, ME was on all new consumer notebooks and PCs, and most consumers and businesses stuck with Windows 98 SE. I also wouldn't say that Windows 2000 was the OS that brought the NT Kernel to the consumer masses. That was XP. It really should have been 2000 (as Microsoft intended it that way), but I guess not everything was ironed out just yet. Microsoft was working on the Neptune build of 2000 (which would be akin to Windows XP Home Edition), but that never became a completed product. The funny thing is, as more games were written for Windows XP, those became compatible with Windows 2000 as well, so it would have been more usable in the home (just not as fancy and glitzy) There seems to be the thought that 2000 and XP should be supported indefinitely. I used to share that sentiment especially in regards to 2000 and XP x64 Edition. But having since migrated to Vista, and getting used to some of the differences that OS offers, I do feel that Windows has improved. So I can better understand Microsoft moving on I suppose.

Apparently Build 9879 will be the final preview issued until after the New Year. Then Microsoft plans on rolling out Consumer Previews. This was on WinBeta. Sorry I should have fetched the link.

@Anx (oooooh - Royale Noir? the theme I mean?)

Yes you can run the app again, and it uninstalls the theme and restore whatever "Aero" theme you had on previously. Now you may need to widen the borders and change fonts again (that may provide to be a small nuisance...lol). But it can be all fixed back.

Here's the second one showing the Classic Shell Start Menu, Control Panel and "This PC" properties.

Here are some screenshots with the new revision, plus Classic Shell. I also imported my Vista classic desktop metrics and colours.

I'll provide the link and EVEN BETTER NEWS. He just posted a new version a couple of days days ago. Now IE 11 and the taskbar work with aplomb! http://bertrand.deo.free.fr/TEMP/w8classic.zip The only bug I can see is that Control Panel -> Personalization does not render. Other than that, unzip the executable, run it, and then after log off and back in again. Then run the executable again to patch IE 11 (so it now appears like classic looking IE), and then also choose the "Configure Theme" button to access Advanced Properties (just like you used to in Vista and 7)

Just another to show the file/save dialog box. (EDIT!!! I had to remove the old image to upload the new ones below)

Well, since this thread is about usable desktops, I had asked on some other thread in the Windows 8x section whether or not the classic desktop was actually just buried underneath Aero in Windows 8.1. I believed it had been, so I downloaded a tool into my 8.1 VM, and though it appeared risky, I was about to turf the VM anyway. It claims to restore the classic desktop. Well, there are some rough edges, but it does restore the classic desktop non-skinned elements for real. (EDIT!!! I had to remove the old image to upload the new ones below)

If rapid release does take hold (and the update engine IS indeed being reworked - though on the Tech Prview it's still like 8.1) I would hate if I like a particular feature on a certain revision (say 10.5). Then let's say the feature is permanently changed on 10.6. I would not be able to stay at 10.5 because the following updates will be pushed to customers.

I've been running the last two release candidates, and now the full version. I never thought that K-Meleon would make it, but I'm glad to stand corrected.

10 was chosen to mark that this will be the final full release of Microsoft Windows. After the release of 10, updates will be once monthly (ala rapid release style like Google Chrome). Technically, it seems that the re-engineering of Windows Update methodologies are the feature of Windows 10.

Well at first the service appeared in the Service Manager as "termsrv". I restarted Vista, and it appeared as "Terminal Services". I disabled the service, and after another restart, the messages disappeared from Event Viewer (I cleaned out Event Viewer, of course)

It's Official! Windows 10 it is. http://live.theverge.com/microsoft-windows-9-event-live-blog/#/