Hi FthrJACK, 1) Thanks for helping found this place. Looking at how solid and informative msfn is, you can venture that a lot of other people are greatful also. 2) Looks like you have stumbled on one of the quirks of msfn. Two other attempts at similar types of real time communication have also not gone very far. Everyone seems to just wander back here. It may be a disappointment, but at the moment it appears to be the nature of the beast. It is really odd when you consider that a number of people here wouldn't mind actually meeting some of the other members face to face, even if it is only to say 'hello'. I'm on that list. Thank you again, DL