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I think another problem is hardware support. Vista cannot be installed on anything following Intel's Ivy-Bridge. Some users have luck with AMD's Ryzen, but most people still have Intel systems. It may seem odd (and it is), that Vista doesn't install on anything after Ivy-Bridge, considering a lot of Windows 7 drivers actually work on Vista. This is further exemplified with Windows XP, which is left with scarce NT5.x drivers on newer hardware, but yet, actually can install with proper SATA drivers. I'm sure there are a few members here that would install Vista on second partition if it were practical. Security and FUD certainly play a role in the declining market-share. Although most FUD was centered around XP, Windows 7's "your computer will explode if you use the internet" day is coming quickly. Some people who have Vista probably see Windows 7's EOL as a reminder or something of the sort. Most of all however, is browser support. Roytam1's Pale Moon and Firefox 56(?) back-ports are excellent, but the average user is only going to think about Chrome and Firefox which are both no longer updated.

... It looks as though the BETA channel has lagged behind the stable release one... https://desktop.telegram.org/changelog#beta-version By visiting their official GitHub repository, https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/releases the latest stable release posted there is at version 1.8.11 (updated a mere two hours ago...) That same version can be obtained by visiting the main site: https://desktop.telegram.org/ At least on their GitHub repo, https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop#supported-systems suggests Windows XP as being still supported Though not a Telegram user, I decided to conduct some tests here, on Vista SP2 32-bit; I fetched the "portable" 1.8.10 package from GitHub, it had no issues launching: As you see, I, too, was greeted by the red header with the warning, but the behaviour of the app itself contradicts that warning, as it's automatically downloading (in the background) the update to the newer version; once I click UPDATE TELEGRAM, the app is restarted to latest version 1.8.11: Are you saying this is no longer possible under XP? In any case, if I choose to hide the red header here (by clicking the white X), this option is honoured and it isn't displayed anymore in future relaunches of the app... Generally speaking, when still running XP or Vista, it's a dead certainty that currently working software will cease to function sometime in the near (or, hopefully, not so near) future; this will soon-ish become also true for Windows 7, though I suspect the deprecation of this very popular Win OS will come much slower compared to Vista and, to a lesser extent, XP... OT: I have British and Greek friends in the UK with whom I communicate frequently ; I was under the impression DAB broadcasts used as high a bitrate as 192kbps, but employing the less efficient audio codec MP2... Anyhow, FM analog broadcast in the UK is slated for the ax... WRT Capital London: On occasion, I also like to listen to this commercial radio station (although I shouldn't really be listening from overseas... ); their public online stream is indeed abysmal, only HE-AACv1@48kbps (adequate, I guess, for mobile devices and poor laptop speakers); there's a higher quality - non public - stream of theirs at http://media-ice.musicradio.com:80/CapitalMP3 This is in high contrast to BBC Radio streams which, if inside the UK, are offered as AAC LC@320kbps Cheers

Wow, that is quite a timeline you have provided here. Let me first start out by saying thank you ever so much for posting this and giving those that "knew" him some closure. I know @LoneCrusader will probably appreciate seeing this post as well because he and your dad kept in contact a lot and worked on projects together. I'm glad it also helped to get it off your chest as well, so it benefited all of us in the end. I still feel very sad over the loss and in time we will all heal but it sounds like he was quite a trooper through the whole thing but unfortunately just wasn't strong enough to come through. But some of us truly liked your father and he was always welcome here. As a small token of our gratitude, we promoted his account that you're using to the patrons group which is reserved for those who have had a special impact here or retired staff members. We know it's not much but it's all we can really offer along with our most sincere condolences. While you may or may not have much use being here, please be aware that you're certainly most welcome in the community, even if you just want to talk to some of us who were close to your dad. Not a lot of people would have done what you did but I know myself and others will be more at peace with your dad's untimely passing. Again, thank you ever so much for the update!

Yes; Windows 2000 went down from 0.01 to 0.00% on netmarketshare in August. All of the web-browsing 2000 users I know (including myself) also use XP-10/Linux (even BWC posted about his new win10 laptop on his blog) as well, and even when using 2000 I sometimes spoof the OS version or the user agent. I still think 2000-Vista are still good for web browsing as updated browsing options remain available from at least two sources, and a third if 360 Extreme Explorer hasn't dropped support.

My Vista drive was removed from my machine over a year ago. The reason is very simple; no more browser support. The web browser is the point of entry of all things malicious and the most important software suite on any machine, from a security perspective.

I am glad that he had found friends here. I never really knew the extent of all of his Win9x work. My current desktop can still boot into Win9x because of him, although, I haven't in a while. I would like to try to provide some closure for others so I'll give a timeline of what happened. You may or may not have known that my father had heart issues. He had a mild heart attack in his 40s. August 19th: Goes in for angiogram, gets fast tracked for triple bypass surgery. He left me a message midday about it and I called him that evening. We discussed the options they gave him and he seemed settled on the bypass surgery. August 21st: Has the surgery. Gets out of surgery, doctor tells me take he handled it well. August 24th: First time I was able to contact him on the phone after the surgery. He seemed well but certainly worn-down after the surgery. August 25th: Had a heart attack (cardiac event). Survived, but apparently it was not a good situation. I was able to talk to him that evening (I think, it could have been the next day). Got the impression that his diabetes and insulin resistance played a major role in the incident. August 28th: Last night I get to talk to him. I made plans to come down to see him on the 30th. August 29th: Situation escalates, possible infection/sepsis. August 30th-September 2nd: He is heavily sedated for the pain. But things seem stable. Not good, but stable. I return home and hope for the best. September 3-7th: Situation goes back and forth, fluid buildup leads to treatment for infection. Ultimately, the infection is treatable but the sepsis is not. September 9th: Palliative care nurse contacts me and I go back down that afternoon. Situation is getting worse. September 10th: Responsiveness to questions during sedation vacation is lost except to pain stimulus. September 11th: Taken off of life support. Passes at 1:28pm. I hope that helps. I think it has helped me to write it out. I forgot I had the message from him in my voicemail about going to the hospital. My own personal take on it is that complications from diabetes played a major role in his inability to recover but I am not a doctor and it's just my own mind trying to justify the situation.

Don't reset your existing profile, just make a temporary new clean one. You can easily revert back to your previous one when you've finished testing. The necessary dialogue is under "about:profiles". The site you mention seems to work absolutely fine here in FF 52.9. In fact the videos don't seem to be using Flash at all, they are using HTML5 video, which is what I would now expect. There's no evidence here that it's loading the Flash plugin at all.

Fix bug "Youtube" on FX5***. layers.max-active set 1 or >1 https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/app/mobile.js#514 Test: PC1 (462 socket, FX5200, WinXP) Firefox 48.0.2 layers.max-active max 2, SeaMonkey 2.48 (SSE) max 1 PC2 (478 socket, FX5200, Win7) PM28 max 3

I was going to bring up the Windows Updates issue. That 32GB recommended free space for 64bit OS mentioned by alacran is a MS joke. My Win7 64bit Windows folder is now 3+ years old and it has grown about 4GB/year, every year. The monthly Windows Updates marked as 'Important' are typically 250+MB minimum. They do not just replace they usually add so with only essential updates there is a 3GB/year reduction of free space. That is without the optional updates like MS .NET Framework which is actually required for a number of popular 3rd party programs. My Windows folder is now 36+GB, so long ago that recommended 32GB free space was shown to be a ridiculous under-estimate of what is really required. Add Pagefile.sys (default = total RAM ie. in this case 8GB) and Hiberfil.sys and that's another huge chunk of free space lost too. On my current system (16GB RAM) those two take up 26GB. The 120GB SSD which I'm also using on this this PC is shown as half full just with the OS and other system files.

I translated customized Russian version to Japanese :3

@Windows 2000 I think you should buy the best AMD CPU with included graphics, and compatible Motherboard you can pay, and it will have better graphic capavilities and will be good for long time, about the storage I differ a little with WalkInSilence, since for starting the SSD you selected is good enought for OS (32 GB is the requirement for any x64 OS) and still have some space (about 85 GB) available, then latter when/if required you can add a secondary (mechanical) HDD or a secondary bigger SSD if you prefer, to increase the storage. So better put more the money on CPU and motherboard than in a bigger SSD. Or you will lament it later. About the Motherboard: Asus is my prefered option even the entry level models. Gigabyte is also a reputable brand and would be my second option. Don't buy a cheaper brand as they usually faill sooner than the 2 mentioned brands, just to let you know I still have an i3 3225 running on an Asus MB (first and only MB used), and another i3 3225 (My brother PC) still working (both builded with a difference of 3 months) is on its third MB (one Asrock and now on second Biostar), soket 1155 MBs were not available anymore but I had 2 used Biostar from upgraded PCs.

Yes, it was the end of support by major browsers more than anything else that drove users away - not that Vista ever had a market share comparable to XP or Windows 7 in the first place. It sounds like Firefox 52.9.0 (released in June 2018) must have been the last straw for you. Devotees of Firefox and related browsers might forget that Chrome is by far the most popular browser, and it's been 3.5 years now since Chrome ended support for Vista and XP (and almost as long since Opera 36 was updated). Oddly enough, IE9 is still supported due to Server 2008 SP2 being supported until January 2020; but this support for Vista's "official" browser is of limited value because IE9 is obsolete. There is a school of thought here at MSFN that online security is reasonably good as long as a developer is making modifications to one or more Firefox forks that can be used on Vista or XP, but I never embraced that idea myself. It seems to me that only Google, Microsoft and Mozilla are in the business of updating browser code for the sake of security, and not even the Chinese have managed to backport Firefox Quantum AFAIK. There is now also an alarming scarcity of non-Chinese antivirus products that fully and officially support Vista and XP. Frankly, I had only rarely used Vista for web browsing myself since early 2017; but have lately been emboldened by installation of Sandboxie 5.22, which I'm using in combination with Avast 18.8. (Both are legacy versions, but both were free.) Sandboxing your browser might very well be the best security solution.

It sounds like you didn't reach this conclusion until Vista's market share slipped below 0.5%? The avatar I selected upon joining MSFN in January 2017 almost seems outdated now: Average users have abandoned ship, and all that remains are a few enthusiasts singing hymns on the main deck. Do we still have more market share than Windows 2000?

I didn't realize that people would find out so soon about my father's passing. I wanted to express my appreciation of the impact he has had for many of you with all his work on Windows. I got to hear about it for years over meals and I never realized how many people found value in his patches. It is a busy time right now but I did want to clear the air regarding the patches. I would like them to continue to be distributed, for his work to be remembered and to be beneficial to others. So, please, freely distribute what you may have in terms of the work my dad did. When things are more settled, I will see what I can do regarding anything missing he might have had available and whatever relevant material there might be that someone could use to further pursue his work.