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Once again, learning a lot! I don't use R3dFox to watch DRM comment, so I didn't even realize R3dfox had disabled DRM. As you say, shades of Pale Moon. All the niche browsers combined aren't going to force YouTube et al. to abandon it! And I agree that the correct way to deal with the issue is to leave the DRM supporting code in the browser, and just disable it with a pref, which can then be re-enabled by the user if desired. Finally, I do consider VMP evil, and understand that niche browsers like R3dFox will never support VMP. But as long as there are sites that impose DRM but don't require VMP, we should still be allowed to access those sites. All that said, though, I still appreciate having R3dFox on my "ancient" Win 7 PC and will keep using it for the ever-increasing number of Web sites that flummox Serpent.

I can't imagine that pref. doing anything at all if multiprocess move is disabled, so I strongly suspect either it is your imagination, or else you do actually have multiprocess mode enabled. The pref. you cited is not the only way to enable it: You can check whether multiprocess mode is, in fact, enabled by clicking Help / Troubleshooting and scrolling down to "Multiprocess Windows." If the first number is anything but zero, it's enabled. Already done: https://github.com/JustOff/moon-tester-tool (by the author of the Classic Add-Ons Archive himself) and https://github.com/Nebula-Mechanica/serpent-tester-tool. But to be fair, these extensions are themselves several years old, so they probably need to be updated. ... Any volunteers? @AstroSkipper?

I COMPLETELY agree @VistaLover. By the way, you really did a complete job in your above assessment. I'm also grateful to what @K4sum1 gave us. But I also need to look after my needs. While I hate that we have a Google-fied web, I've stopped worrying about the implications of all of the privacy issues we face. It's not that I disagree with the level of concern, but it's that we REALLY can do nothing about it. I need to perform online banking, watch and help produce videos on YouTube, use WebRTC to voice traffic reports, and take part in Zoom meetings, Google Meet and Teams Meetings, and apply for work; all which basically NECESSITATES providing a good chunk of personal information to proceed. I don't agree with the corporate tactics, but I must continue to function. It was indeed K4Sum1's project, as Pale Moon was Moonchild's. What I feel these visionary types (who admittedly deserve a lot of credit for their work), fail to realize is that those that make up their user base are CONSUMERS or CUSTOMERS. Now Moonchild and his "moonie minions" VEHEMENTLY disagree with that. But customers are not just defined as those providing monetary exchange to a company or corporation for a product. They can be those who provide voluntary stake to a company, or mission. So in this way, those who co-develop alongside Moonchild, those who provide add-ons, those who beta test, and YES even those who simply (and regularly) USE Pale Moon, are indeed customers and stakeholders. When someone creates a project, and it attracts users to the resulting product, such as in K4Sum1's r3dFox, expectations begin to be developed. No matter if these expectations are right or wrong for the userbase to behold, they are real, and the developer needs to contend with them. Those are simply the facts. K4Sum1 provided a way for me to use Windows 8 on an extended basis, and you become reliant on that. When K4Sum1 understandably says, "I'm just not feeling it", it doesn't incite a favourable response among the userbase. Fair? Perhaps not, but it's a very real sentiment. @K4sum1, I genuinely hope you are OK.

I guess things like Cloudflare captchas are more a defence against bots than anything else. A forum operator, for instance, wouldn't want a bot potentially harvesting all their members' e-mail addresses, so it is fundamentally privacy concerns. Something which works in some browsers and blocks the site in others doesn't make sense, though, and we're not talking about ancient browsers here.

Thanks ; that one works ...

Strange... Try this.

I only upgrade if Speedometer 2.1 reveals newer to be faster. My preference has been v136. v137 is within margin of error so I never bothered to upgrade to v137. v138 and v139 took major hits and DECREASED scores, so no interest in either. v140, v141, and v142 are indeed faster based on Speedometer scores (and others, it's just the easiest to get a score). My next (once I do upgrade) will be v141. Then keep it until it "needs" upgraded. I really really REALLY prefer to stick with ONE and not update every (feel like) three days! The web site being discussed here isn't going to be enough to get me to upgrade, but it is probably writing on the wall that my v136 will have to soon be replaced.

Yet another case of site admins arbitrarily blocking less than current User Agent Strings... Yet the site loads when a SSUAO is used to impersonate latest FxESR-140 on Win10x64: general.useragent.override.zdoom.org;Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:140.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/140.0 Using an extension to impersonate latest Chrome DEV (v144) makes it open in Sm-126, too : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/144.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 PS: Sm-126 by default reports itself as being Cr-132 ...

it uses same cert store as latest firefox's security library (NSS) so it has latest certs.

Doesn't it need the `node_modules` directory? [Edit] Apparently not: Verbose log.

As told, you don't have to install node system-wide; of the linked zip archive, for yt-dlp purposes, you only need the standalone (portable) "node.exe" binary ... Even simpler, just place "node.exe" (67.8 MiB) next to your yt-dlp 64-bit binary and issue/configure --js-runtimes node; if you're overly concerned about "security", you can let yt-dlp launch NODE in JIT-less mode via --js-runtimes node --extractor-args "youtube-ejs:jitless=true" (provides better security at the cost of performance/speed) ; according to online testimonies, Node takes just 1-2s to solve YT's challenges, while QuickJS, depending on how powerful your machine is, may take from 8-15s (and this relic of mine (32-bit OS, 3GB RAM, Core2 Duo from late 2007), can take anything from 15-30s, depending on how busy the machine is when qjs.exe starts ) ... I keep an eye on two things : 1. This; QuickJS-ng may, in due course, end up with "rope strings", too, so its speed (when used with yt-dlp) may become on par with upstream QuickJS 2. That; the astring library is an external dependency of the yt-dlp-ejs JS component which, together with a suitable JS runtime, performs the task of solving YT's JS challenges; hopefully, this PR will be accepted and merged into the astring repo and a future yt-dlp-ejs version will pick that updated version up, making the use of QuickJS-ng with yt-dlp equally "practical" ... Reference: here ...

Yes, I'm talking about them. Well, then I don't know what else might be needed. I have all the updates installed, as well as all versions of C++ and Net 4.6.2. Does version 136 give the same error?

You need to download chrome.packed-vista.7z and run it with the --no-sandbox parameter. Everything is written there. If this is done, then some updates may be missing, especially the Platform Update.

New release Mypal68 74.1.3 "BUGS IN THIS VERSION 1. xiaoxiaoflood broken 2. DOH is broken, if enable it crashes the browser Pay attention avif format is not added yet, if you get pictures not showed which was fine, then set the version to 91 for the specific site, this is like aliexpress. Added experimental setting "media.ffmpeg.skip_loop_filter" for low end machines, affects h264 and vp8 ffmpeg decoders" https://codeberg.org/Theodor2/Mypal68/releases

I was worried that may be the case too, as I was a tad vocal on my thoughts of where r3dFox is headed, on the Eclipse Fourm. However, that isn't my saying "You have to do this or that!". I'm vehement on my opinions, and make no apologies for it. In any case, I have now moved on the Firefox for Windows 7 and 8, since releases seem to be happening more quickly. This is especially the case for ESR builds. I'm glad I switched. Even if my comments were not made, I'm sure there were a lot of vocal proponents of my mindset, including one being a moderator.

I'm 99% sure that he DOES understand. And I agree with roytam. He is here to support his brower variants. He is not here to support extensions. His browsers are NOT 'technically' *modern*. Removing ID checking would open up a whole can of worms where the "userbase" would ASSUME that *modern* extensions are supposed to "work". Roytam's browsers are only 80% modern. Sure, we could debate if that is actually 80% or 90% or 98%. But the reality is that they are NOT 100%! Why in Hades would roytam open his browsers up to an onslaught of support enquiries asking why a thousand extensions do not work because they rely on the 20% (or 10% or 2%) that his browsers simply cannot "do"?

Ok, I've corrected that. I already said this thread is a bit confusing. Now I can see a fully loaded Microsoft Update site using HTTPSProxy. Without HTTPSProxy it doesn't work. But when searching updates I get error code 0x80072F78. See my screenshots https://imgur.com/nO9N9kh https://imgur.com/OGBN3qb

Hello, thanks for reply. I've already added these sites to Trusted Zone of IE and set security level to high. No chance. When you set security level to high Active scripting is disabled and Microsoft Update site can't install plugins meaning MU can't go on. Here a screenshot: https://imgur.com/o4P8B95

All these updates I had installed when they were offered via MU. I have the most recent root certificates updated by CAupdater and all updates incl. POSReady updates. But Microsoft Update doesn't work in IE. When Active scripting is enabled Microsoft Update is looping between http://fe2.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/default.aspx?ln=de and http://fe2.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/default.aspx. Without Active scripting no loop back but then you'll get Error number: 0x8DDD0001 like this: https://imgur.com/6jHMuyq

What certificate do you mean? cacert.pem in program folder of HTTPSProxy (using HTTPSProxy instead of ProxHTTPSProxy) or site certificates like fe2.update.microsoft.com.crt in cert folder of HTTPSProxy or what? Very confusing these comments in this topic.

Thanks for clarifying! You're right I have to test official binaries on a Windows 7 or 10 PC first to decide whether it is an official ffmeg issue or a problem of your mods. Thanks so far!

Sorry, I thought you are the creator of these new xpmod-sse binaries on https://rwijnsma.home.xs4all.nl/files/ffmpeg/?C=M;O=D. Do you know who the author of these binaries is? By the way there are a lot of free German VPN or German proxy servers but anyway I need new binaries only for Windows XP. So your link https://ffmpeg.org/download.html#build-windows does not help and I think there is something going wrong by building these specific new xpmod-sse binaries so the original coder of FFmpeg can't help. Help of the creator of these specific new xpmod-sse binaries is needed! Thanks so far