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He didn't write anything about "OS age", and I think we need to welcome when people take their time to help finding new browsers that would work on XP (which is this thread is about). "Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes"

This browser doesn't fetch certificates (don't know the origins of it, China?), it is based on Chromium 92, the name is Brisk Bard 2.6.0 . it works on Vista without mods or patches, could you try, perhaps it works on XP, too! You will need to update the engine on 360Chrome soon anyways. As proof, look at the UA, which tells it runs on Vista.

That's what I always told you! As for the fetching, China and Russia, they all have their own forged certificates - which aren't valid all over the world, obviously. Of course they are fetched from different sources, not the official ones.

Would you want me to help you, maybe?

I wonder whether you hardcode normal search engines,

I know about WebGPU, but it's out of the question for this browser. It's v.113 and up.

as far as that goes, Roytam made the discovery, were stones thrown at Roytam for his observation? rhetorical question

same here no clue, despite the "how" it was discovered, should it really matter? needs fixed regardless of how it was found, correct? or if MSFN is no longer accepting new members, shouldn't that be revealed to existing members? at any rate, i'm not concerned with the "why" or the "how" it was found if the mods didn't know about it, then why throw stones at the person that brought it to their attention? i guess that's how i see it -- "why throw stones?"

He wrote "just noticed that no new registration is available here now". Thank you for the attempt to explain, I still find strange why would he be looking at the registration page, I didn't even look at that page myself since I got my account several years ago.

Not sure I understand, could you please elaborate, you already have an account, but still want to register another fake one? I think it's forbidden, sorry in advance, if I misunderstood.

so true. All I can say is when the 2nd tuesday of the month rolls by I'm ready to DL both your lists. Makes things go so easy, much easier than when win 7 was around. tx again, regards....

Your certificate store is outdated, that's why MSFN isn't green, which it normally is, even on XP. Outdated store also means it doesn't have information about revoked certificates, so it could be showing green when it normally wouldn't. Windows normally pulls CA certificate from MS servers when you visit particular website, since that doesn't work on XP anymore, folks were updating them manually, which has a side effect that you get all CA certificates MS has, while you would only have a fraction of them normally, depending on what sites you visit. Common sites still seem to use compatible algorithms, so a good chunk of them still show normally. But when my bank still required certificate for personal identification few years back, all I got in 360Chrome was Chinese error when visiting the site, I couldn't copy it anywhere to see what it means, making the browser useless for banking, so it was Mozilla to the rescue. Back then there was only Russian repack of the 360Chrome if I recall correctly. This is the big reason why I thought for quite some time in my mind that there are better browsers out there, incomprehensible errors are off-putting to the end user and so are empty error pages with only a numeric code in URL bar.

Those fixes didn't seem to cause any harm, although they didn't fix the Chase issue. So they still may be worth including in the next release. OTOH, they may complicate things if upstream actually does fix the Chase issue at some point. then next possible one could be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1556604 but this one seems not easy to be ported to our tree.

Uploaded a fix version, the RunAsTI ini option should not be needed anymore.

By all means, create a thread for any-and-all. Just as Astro likes his threads to stay on point, I fail to see how Brisk Bard 2.6.0 pertains to "360Chrome v13.5.2044 rebuild 2". Sure, there might be a case to be made for not having a 2044 thread, a 2036 thread, a 2022 thread, a 1030 thread. But I do that for a reason and forum "activity" will/should roll the old off of "page 1" and keep the "active" at the top. At least, that's what I'm used to, I have this forum so heavily style-sheeted that I have no clue what it's supposed to look like, lol. The just-discovered .crt/.cer/.p7c "pinging" does affect *ALL* versions of 360Chrome (mine, Humming Owl, Russian Repack, upstream). But I maintain that for the most part, issues with 2044 have no bearing on 1030 so issues with 2044 should be contained within the 2044 thread. Et cetera. That was the intent at least. I say that being a "rare user" of Serpent 52 and New Moon 27/28. Being a "rare" user, I don't read that thread daily/weekly. And jumping in once a month is a NIGHTMARE to get one's self "caught up" on Serpent 52 when several other browsers are discussed all within the same exact thread. BOTH approaches are perfectly valid, of course. We all have our own opinions re: thread-count (and forum trolling, I see them as related due to the "parties" that say "this" versus "that"). "Opinions are like butts. We all have them, doesn't mean we all want to hear them."

Same thing happens when using Twitter or hotmail, the ui slows down and eventually becomes unusable. Interestingly, firefox 52esr does not have this problem so it's likely a code update in pale moon/uxp. Guess it's a tradeoff to modernizing the browser and making it more accessible.

Hello FantasyAcquiesce, You need to specify the generation of your intel atoms or celerons. People say it may not possible with certain very modern hardware. https://www.reddit.com/r/windows7/comments/15db1hm/help_installing_windows_7_on_modern_hardware/

Yes, I can confirm, it's the same like in the original version it leads to h--p://bbs.360.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=14294828 http I replaced to h--p

Of course! Why would I give a theme with China connections!? What do you mean by "bloated"? There's nothing there that connects to China.

@NotHereToPlayGames I have tried once or twice to PM you but it doesn’t seem to be possible. Anyway, thanks for actually trying Kaspersky 18 on XP x86 during my recent absence from the forum! You were quite right about one thing: For too long the debate was dominated by people who never even used Kaspersky (including me and the OP of this topic). Also thanks to @UCyborg for testing Kaspersky 18 on XP x64 and confirming that it works, and to the anonymous member who already told me that beforehand. 🙂 I won’t be posting in the Astro-Blog anymore, which should not only be locked but deleted entirely because it is hopelessly biased politically (not to mention boring). Since that was the last topic at MSFN of any interest to me, I will become very scarce unless someone asks an interesting question, which rarely happens at this forum anymore. Bye!

I searched in vain for something worthy of quotation in your last post. Are you saying that Kaspersky could be trusted if there were Anglo-Saxons living in Moscow? As I have pointed out before, it is the independent labs who “sing Kaspersky’s praises” - not I (who never used it as you well know). Am I more inclined to believe the independent labs than governments (including my own) that clearly have an anti-Russian foreign policy agenda? You bet I am! You and AstroSkipper obviously place greater faith in government pronouncements, which is the entire dispute in a nutshell. As I recall, Germany was eagerly awaiting completion of “Nordstream II” just two years ago, but now they have “seen the light” and become “born again” anti-Russians. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing - in fact it has helped to silence those isolationists in America who think we should withdraw from NATO and let Europe fend for themselves. (I was never one of those, although you have single-handedly caused me to give the matter more thought.) Frankly, the United States badly needs to pivot its attention toward the Pacific, where a new threat has been growing steadily. Meanwhile, Astro posts updates about Chinese security software and your accounts react as a matter of course. With allies like you, who needs enemies? 🤔 I learned the futility of reporting your accounts some time ago, but thanks for the suggestion. The mayor of New York City has indeed spoken about an immigration “crisis” recently, but the population influx in question comes from Central America - not Russia. You picked a peculiar topic in which to argue that the US government is “pro-Russian.”

I never heard any American express a desire to live in Russia. Why would they want to? These days, no American in their right mind would even visit Russia (I certainly wouldn’t: Look what happened to Brittney Griner among others). On the other hand, I can easily think of reasons why Russians would want to live in the United States. Espionage is probably much lower on my list than it is on yours, as you seem to be quite paranoid. I happen to live in Florida now, and I am not “scared to even imagine” the number of Russians living here. There is no reason to suspect that they are “out to get me,” however I get the feeling that YOU will not rest until I have left MSFN for good. Am I being paranoid? I don’t think so! Do you have at least five MSFN accounts? Yes, there is no doubt in my mind that you do! The only alternative is to believe that Europe is teeming with people who think just like you, and I know better than that!

It's the latest version of Chasys Draw IES. Oh and it also creates thumbnails for the folder view! It's a bit slow at that for me, but that could be due to which method it uses. It uses the HEVC codec, either an included or installed one.

I treat official warnings from any of the government agencies depending on their contents, and BTW this is not a warning, but a recommendation, and (as said) its content is (vague) wishful thinking or generic advice. The note is BTW not particularly tailored to Kaspersky or to any other particular software, it talks of "information technologies supplied by firms connected to the Russian Federation". Without an official list of "firms connected to the Russian Federation" it is meaningless, yes, we know (from other sources) that Kaspersky may be one of these firms, but for all we know, any number of other software or hardware related firms could have similar connections. And the actual recommendation is about conducting an analysis of the risk (Risk Assessment), which is essentially a simple (or complex) document (not entirely unlike some of the ISO9001[1] ones), where someone uses senseless formulas or reasonings on partial, incorrect, non-existing or invented data to derive a (wrong or right, usually pre-determined) conclusion (subject to revision/reviews/changes) , it is only (bad, useless) bureaucracy, the pool where consultants with dubious qualifications and (officially qualified but often clueless) auditors like to swim. Unlike Laws or technical norms (where formulas are given and data needed is specified, and processes are detailed) a generic risk analysis document: https://drata.com/glossary/risk-assessment can be made according to no less than 6 different principles: https://drata.com/blog/risk-assessment-methodologies and then the actual data and algorithms you can use in the document can be almost anything. jaclaz [1] the actual norm for IT security is ISO 27001 (and 27005) that not unlike many other ISO ones is pretty much "vague" and open to different methodologies/approaches: https://advisera.com/27001academy/what-is-iso-27001/

JFYI (I can read that Italian article without translation) it is only a generic, empty/obvious and meaningless "wishful thinking" kind of post, it recommends to proceed to a new risk analysis and to consider evaluating different strategies, while stating how it is fundamental, in order to not weaken the protection of the organizations, that during this process the continuity of security service must not be interrupted. Writing this kind of meaningless crap could be a good use for Chat-GPT, BTW. jaclaz

For every desired feature, there is a solution in the form of an extension. But my tabs will stay horizontally. I am a creature of habit.

Generally, I would tend to agree to your suggestion but in my case that would only be a measure if all alternatives failed. My Windows XP partition is very complex and full of special settings. It has grown over years and setting it all up again would also take years if I could remember everything perfectly. The current error only affects this particular program Quick Startup, so considering reinstalling is not really an option for me. BTW, this affected partition was created in 2004. Since then, I have never had to perform a new installation on this computer. I have a sophisticated imaging system and can revert to an older state at any time. However, according to my nature, I am interested in what the actual problem is. I like to solve all problems myself in order to have full control and to constantly expand my knowledge. Many errors are of a recurring nature, and a new installation would only be a temporary solution. I have a large archive of problem solutions that specifically affect Windows XP. So I can fix these errors very quickly. Some error solutions are designed by me and cannot be found on the Internet.

New pre-release of Mypal! JavaScript at level 78! Thank you so much for all your hard work, @feodor2! Hope you are well!

Autoruns is one of the rare tools to get a complete list of all important entries in terms of autostart programs, services, drivers, tasks, handlers, codecs and so on, sorted by categories. To be honest, I never felt the need to remove such entries shown in your screenshot. Any regular entries will stay in my system as they are. For me, Autoruns is a perfect tool in finding remnants of already uninstalled programs or services. I use it regularly for this purpose and for additional control.

Testing all these programs is always a bit problematic for me. I don't use VMs and always install the software to be tested in my real Windows XP partition. But that means only one at a time to rule out possible conflicts or incompatibilities. Therefore, it all takes much longer and is also a little more difficult. Cheers, AstroSkipper

Hello @feodor2! Great to hear development is ongoing especially in terms of the JavaScript engine! Hope you are well despite all existing problems in our world In any case, I'm already very excited about a new release from Mypal 68. Best wishes and greetings from Germany, AstroSkipper

Nicely worded! And, did you already test Vir.IT eXplorer? I am interested in your results.

You're absolutely right! What is to happen will happen anyway. There's nothing we can do about it anyway. And we don't want to make it worse, do we? Time to move on in this thread.

I usually consider such discussion as useless, too. But I am really an old customer of Malwarebytes and I don't have to put up with such insolence. In their forum, the moderators only allow answers or questions that conform to their views, including the thread title. You can't edit it and you can't edit your own posts either. A true junk forum. You're absolutely right! We have to and we will help each other as usual.

You make an acc., you write one word, I can hear the accent, I know It's you, I don't need to check your IP. Let me remind, I never had any form of beef with you, I don't have any prejudgments towards you. But, a big but - I was under the impression you are here for a clean start, no ? I'm still somewhat glad you're here, you're a funny fella. Seeing this crap resurfacing again in any form/shape, and knowing some of the previous crap you're capable of, I have a favour to ask, just freaking leave win32 alone and don't remind him of any unpleasantries, he is under my personal protection along with Astroskipper, Dave-H and a small amount of some others (don't remember their names, I just woke up, check with me later, will ya), but these ones are especially not be messed with. I can't write - go and have fun with the others, 'cause it would be against the forum's policy. Win32 is a person of creativity, he's an artist. He needs positive stuff to get inspiration, don't you freakin' understand ?!??!?

Step by step video guide Fix NET Framework 4.8 is Not Supported On This Operating System Error Windows 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1S8daWrHTo

Did you try Windows 7 compatibility mode ? Or just spoof the installer.

works even on Windows 7.

For startes, first reason. Because that plonkers banned @win32. (I actually discovered it quite recently). Tell me, what kind of creature one needs to be, to ban win32 ? I can't write insulting words here... Second, there's no one there who could help me with anything I want. Third, annoying spam from them. Silly language (like 12 y.o. children). Fourth - two and a half users there. Enough ? Some of you write how wonderful that weird website is, however you're all still here. EDIT: Not to mention security issues and very questionable content (RAR, 7ZIP) on their "website".

yes, hffps://board. DON'T.visit.it / is what I meant , you're right. A very weird website, right again. EDIT: And you have another opinion ?

Yes, you're right, speaking of weird websites. Don't download anything from that weird eclipse.cx.

I never used Office in my whole life to begin with. And RAR is a russian programme, so again - nothing new. ZIP and CAB are Microsoft, that's what I use, just don't open - if you don't know where it came from.

How's Compa doing ? I missed his marvellous British humour.

This no longer the case . The dislike button works , and has been working for quite some time again.

Nicely put ! May I steal it ? I mean, copy/paste .

There won't be until the CCP controls the World media.

I've tried several betas of 13 version , the first betas , to be precise. I'm sorry, I don't have the links anymore , it was almost a year ago , in September of 2020 , but I'm sure I didn't use the russian warez website, linked here by the user who "strongly" suggests using it. Oh , and I launch with the flag --disable-translate , perhaps this helps.

Exactly ! I've been saying this for a long time , don't trust Russians. I think there's only one user here that makes such claims (not pointing at anyone). For example , they didn't remove this , see proof. And who knows what was added by them . You're totally right , you're better off removing it by yourself from the original.

1- Everything is in English for me with the "unpack portable command". C) - No such line in my settings at all and everything is in English for me everywhere . P.S. My system language is British English , folks time to use proper English.

Have you seen this post ? I had discovered this chinese DNS a long time ago (which was left there by the "talented" russian hackers/repackers), please mention me if you're going to publsih it somewhere else or in the other topics. Also , try to block my IP list (published here earlier , scroll back). https://msfn.org/board/topic/182304-extreme-explorer-360-chromium-78-86-general-discussion/page/15/?tab=comments#comment-1194253