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I have not spoken in cafe for while after moped lost control in this thread (means something went out of hand), but seems things calmed down. Today when I logged in I noticed this. Well I always said all things need to come to end but did not expect this . I wanted to donate but issue is that I do not have credit card or any banking card with enabled support for online transactions since where I live all is done with cash or wire transfer based on IBAN numbers. I also wont have anyone who credit card or paypal to borrow to do it. I asked if that would have been possible way do donate since MSFN last year but I never got any answer. Still I am willing to donate to MSFN if I just got way. Well if this is actually end this board been great and I felt to be part of community here, people with same type of ideologies. I met many great people here. There likely will never be community like this again. People from around globe, many are interested keeping older systems alive, actually helpful answers etc. If this is farewell I let this song be my goodbye to board https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POuOWRmjl0w translation to that song is here: https://lyricstranslate.com/en/kaunis-luoksesi-kaipuu-my-longing-you-beautiful.html

The following was posted today by the site's owner: After the on-going war in Ukraine, this is the second most distressing development for me, should it actually be implemented! With energy (electricity+natural gas+petrol) prices hitting all-time highs, I can understand server costs are also up, yet the very same reasons leave very little room for donations for the average MSFN member that struggles considerably as it is to cope with RL's current demands... Hard times, indeed...

Precisely my point. We here in the States are SPOILED ROTTEN BRATS when it comes to gasoline prices. We tend to drive the MOST and make dozens of WASTEFUL trips instead of planning our trips for "efficient conservation". Yet we tend to pay the LEAST for gasoline compared to other countries. Nope. Here in the US, diesel is more regulated than standard fuel due to trucking industry (I've always been told this, I've never researched it). It was only 5 or so years ago where diesel was never higher than standard as far as price per gallon. People used to always buy cheap diesel cars when global oil prices were high and gas prices were high as a result. Then ethanol mandates hit the scene and now standard always costs much less than diesel. But my main point is that it doesn't matter if you drive an SUV, a jet plain, a Prius, or a moped/scooter, it is the DISTANCE that you travel and NOT the "mpg" of your vehicle!

Woke up to that as well. I'm lucky to have been a member of this forum. I Learned a lot from good people and I will always be grateful to those that worked hard to keep this forum going and contributed; I'm sure its a full-time job to run a forum nowadays. Well ... if "soon" is right around the corner and we vanish, then see ya all in the next life. Wishing everyone the best

We need to do something to keep MSFN up, it can't just end this way!

Ditto to all Truly a unique place here and I've only been here a little over two years, where does all the time go.

I can't speak for MSFN specifically, but I've moderatored forums in the past and the Donations "progress bar" was quarterly.

Thanks for the link

@WULover It would be good if you register on mdl then we can discuss further in case MSFN closes. https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/restore-windows-update-for-windows-xp-server-2003.82538/page-17

Yes, someone willing to take the time should back up all 113 pages in the web archive.

Due to the fact that some of you had problems when running ProxHTTPSProxy or HTTPSProxy in older systems I have examined the correlation of crashes with the SSE2 capability of a CPU. The current results can be found in sections Prerequisites and Versions of this post: @maile3241 I have mentioned your findings relating to getting access to MU in Windows XP Professional x64 and linked your post.

WinNTSetup 5.2.2 - fixed some SATA 2 USB adapters were not detected as USB devices - MinWin: added line condition FBLANG - MinWin: added support for multiple fallback languages @alacran I think that i fixed WLAN problem and new version should handle your es-MX source with it's 2 fallbacks. you can make your own MinWin profile, make a copy of default folder and name it the way you want. WinNTSetup will give you a selection menu, if you left click on the MinWin icon. Right click will open the folder in explorer. I'll keep this default profile very slim, but if there is a serious problem let me know.

No plans as of yet. I don't know what "soon" means as far as the MSFN closure (or if it's even 100% as of this point). Maybe users need to start posting links to other forums where we can continue into the future as folks of (mostly) common interests? I haven't dug too deep into this. I personally feel that New Moon and Serpent are "dying" (I say this as a supporting fan with continued hopes toward the contrary). It's not like Dropbox is some never-heard-of web site - I use it for "business" and reserve my Google Drive for "personal". Dropbox doesn't require users to be "members" to download, you can download without a username/password. The notion that Dropbox doesn't work in New Moon and Serpent only reinforces my own belief that they are "dying" (if not already on life support).

Did not see that until just now. Bummer

It is just a toy these days, right? I am not intended to make some mini windows. I want to make some "good DOS". I just think that throwing some bones of windows to DOS is a better idea than using various DPMI hosts. As windows is capable of multi-tasking, why not to let DOS act as some local environment, and let windows do all the magics. Just because it is too complicated and too large? But if you keep only the most basic functions. It is not that large. ove 90% of the size can be reduced. Currently, this kind of configuration is good for me to run many retro games. That is enough. I am not going to share the file list now, because I am playing with it, and it is dirty. I will share a clean and proved file list with scripts and configurations once I have cleaned it up. I can tell you how I did it. I followed the recipe here http://reboot.pro/index.php?showtopic=22584 and the pages on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_Windows_9x Copy those files, write a system.ini yourself, mostly the original WinME system.ini, and a skeleton win.ini. Try to run regedit.exe, progman.exe, winfile.exe and notepad.exe. If they complain missing some files, copy them too. If you still have errors, try to use dependency walker to profile that program in a normal installation of Windows ME. Find out what is missing and supply them to your installation. Enventually, you will get a set of files to run these programs. Registry is not necessary for the above set (including the REGEDIT.EXE), although win.com will complain that when booting. The system behaves like Windows 3.x. The command.com can be configured as a shell in the system.ini. In this way, you get multi-tasking DOS environment. The start command can be use to open DOS windows as many as your memory is enough. TSRs and environment vars can be loaded differently in every DOS session. This is interesting. As for the registry again, if you only want these basics, it is not necessary. But if you desire TCP/IP stacks, NetBIOS, NTFS, COM/DCOM, WSH or something related to IE, it is a must. BTW, in this mode of running, there is no place for a real-mode DOS. CONFIG.SYS is not necessary if you do not need to load 16-bit drivers. Therefore, the Windows ME Real Mode DOS patching is not needed anymore. The hard drive version IO.SYS and COMMAND.COM works well in this mode.

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Yeah ... been rough for everyone, know that. Sorry I've been missing, I just haven't been doing well at all. I don't think anything will ever be the same again. I don't know. Don't know.

Okay, so setting MSVCRT to XP Compatible (NT5) allowed it to fully work, which means that somehow msvcrt is broken on non-SSE2 CPU from v3.0i upwards

New NewMoon 27 Build! 32bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20220305-a9171b7b2-xpmod.7z 32bit SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20220305-a9171b7b2-xpmod-sse.7z 32bit noSSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win32-git-20220305-a9171b7b2-xpmod-ia32.7z 64bit https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-27.10.0.win64-git-20220305-a9171b7b2-xpmod.7z source repo: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27 repo changes since my last build: - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1126544 - Update sixgill to handle more constructs and manage memory better (e487a0cd05) - Bug 1182407 - Use unpack feature of tooltool wherever possible. r=mshal (6bde76a413) - Bug 1123386 - Part 4: Update the tooltool manifests for the OSX and Linux static analysis builds in order to upgrade clang; r=rail (517ae90efa) - Bug 1204722 - Make sure that unboxed arrays created from literals are compatible with the type of the literal's elements, r=jandem. (400663edb4) - Bug 1117259 - Disable the no-unused-local-typedef warning if clang supports it; r=gps (16e2e49fc6) - Bug 1126813 - Turn on the -Wrange-loop-analysis warning if available; r=gps (1c783e1ed2) - Bug 1191688 - Add -nologo option to rc.exe. r=ted (9c5dbe2b89) - Bug 1150312 - Remove MOZ_SHARK. r=glandium (ba6db939d4) - Bug 1186636 - Add a pref to configure -moz prefixed gradients support. r=dholbert (9c41ae7460) - missing parts of Bug 1077282: Cleanup uses of GreD vs GreBinD, introcuded by v2 signature changes on OSX. Based on initial patch by rstrong. r=bsmedberg (af60bfc743) - de-palemoon (d8b7bae74f) - Bug 932100 - Part 1: Remove load-time dependency on user32. r=bsmedberg (9864a0ed0c) - missing part of Bug 932100 - Part 2: Move DLL blocklist code to mozglue. r=bsmedberg, r=glandium (6497ad86bd) - Bug 1194890 - Ensure that any user32 imports to mozglue are delay loaded; r=glandium (afa0a8d14e) - Bug 1082792 - Build firefox.exe with -MD in ASAN builds; r=glandium (89771bb4c0) - missing VPX/WEBM stuff (ec425938c9) - Bug 1184452 - Correctly reject @font-face descriptors that have garbage after them. r=heycam (f530fc858e) - Bug 1189922. Add a preference to enable global whitelisting of the CSSUnprefixingService. r=dholbert (e2997cb125) - Bug 1198732 - IonMonkey: MIPS32: Fix calculate frame size in generateEnterJIT. r=nbp (454d75946d) - Bug 1199057 - IonMonkey: MIPS32: Plumb new.target on the stack and make it accessible to JSNatives. r=nbp (01d5cb04c2) - Bug 1204306 - IonMonkey: MIPS32: Clean up MacroAssembler functions that aliased to Assembler. r=arai (600dc73280) - Bug 1199080 - IonMonkey: MIPS32: Fix treating saved frame bit as part# o the frame type. r=nbp (5e4e5ba250) - Bug 1099448 - Don't accept box properties with invalid calc() or rgb() etc. function values. r=dbaron (5737e8c300) - Bug 1203142 - Insert /**/ separate between two adjacent '-' symbols when serializing token streams. r=simon.sapin (06fb613d6c) - Bug 1057680 - Add support for font-stretch values in the font shorthand. r=jdaggett (8d8e24751d) - Bug 1155485 - Mark nsFrameManagerBase::mPresShell as MOZ_NON_OWNING_REF; r=roc (e79e28bbd0) - Bug 1121760 (part 5) - Remove PL_DHashMarkTableImmutable(). r=poiru. (8d8c7d9d65) - Bug 1121760 (part 6) - Move all remaining PL_DHash*() functions into PLDHashTable. r=poiru. (d36ec167cc) (8a6eb144a) - import changes from `dev' branch of rmottola/Arctic-Fox: - Bug 1201135 - Rename pldhash.{h,cpp} to PLDHashTable.{h,cpp}. r=mccr8. (0600308646) - Bug 1203680 P4 Fix bug in nsStorageStream with reading streams create#d efore data is populated. r=froydnj (a51018d7c4) - Bug 1156109 - Make nsStorageInputStream::mStorageStream an nsRefPtr; r=froydnj (ac2083b0a4) - Bug 1158735 - FetchEvent.client asserting in onFetch when there's no document. r=bkelly (c67f9dc127) - Bug 1187766 - Test loading plugins scenarios with fetch interception. r=bkelly (9593999e0b) - Bug 1182103 - Test EventSource scenarios with fetch interception. r=bkelly (c45c0a9840) - Bug 1187470 - ServiceWorker scripts should not be treated parser warnings as errors, r=bkelly (a87dcd8b46) - Bug 1144660 - client.focus() adds window interaction checks and directly uses DOMServiceWorkerFocusClient to focus window. r=ehsan,dao (66293cab2c) - Bug 1176988 - Patch 1 - Always hit cache irrespective of HTTP method if channel is being intercepted. r=jdm (fa57442870) - Bug 1176988 - Patch 2 - Remove XHR cache bypass in cast of POST request. r=jdm (7009c4cfb8) - Bug 1182120 - Test XMLDocument.load() with fetch interception. r=bkelly (fae709bda0) - Bug 1176988 - Patch 3 - Tests. r=jdm (bfb5e84490) - Bug 815299 - Part 1: Add an API for setting an empty request header on an HTTP channel; r=dragana (ad3846e6c6) - Bug 815299 - Part 2: Accept empty HTTP headers in fetch; r=jdm (f4d344d4a3) - Bug 815299 - Part 3: Accept empty HTTP headers in XHR; r=jdm (8ed9b6251b) - Bug 1198544 - Prevent FetchDriver from creating multiple responses if OnStopRequest yields a failing status code. r=nsm (e6ce3a3621) - Bug 1171941 - Removed an incorrect URL prefix from fetch_tests.js. r=jdm (bbc57bc7e3) - Bug 1199693 - Test CORS preflight interception with and without an internal redirect; r=jdm (6dda8cb00e) - Bug 1190703 - Relax scope resolution assertion in ServiceWorkerContainer::Register. r=bkelly (75a095f761) - Bug 1181037 - Use entry settings object's base URL. r=ehsan (4be1b9e1cb) - Bug 1194562 - Pass wide strings to ThrowTypeError. r=mccr8 (360113dbb9) - Bug 1185640 - serviceworker register() should not accept escaped slashes. r=bkelly (3c74e3c561) - namespace (0853d1387f) - Bug 1187350 - update() should return a Promise. r=ehsan,catalinb (5fa3367032) - Bug 1183628 - Update web-platform-tests expected data to revision 593fd27931d7e9d573d2796fe10df9fff778d56f, a=testonly (de41f55433) - Bug 1180861 - Various ServiceWorker registration fixes to get test passing. r=bkelly,jgraham. (e1e5be174b) - Bug 1203680 P1 Test file blob uploads with service worker interception. r=nsm (fa7441fd83) - Bug 1203680 P2 Implement an NS_InputStreamIsCloneable() method. r=froydnj (5067d82f06) - Bug 1203680 P3 Add a method to ensure an http upload stream is directly cloneable. r=mcmanus (45aed67d00) (a9171b7b2)

Windows Update for Xp x64 edition and W2k3 I found a new opportunity. Cr to @whenever by Tuopf https://www.prxbx.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=2172. This version of ProxhttpsProxy creates a Sha1 certificate and is compatible with most Windows versions. With this version of ProxhttpsProxy, it is possible to update Windows Server 2003 (not tested) and Win Xp x64 edition. IE6 is sufficient. download link: https://www.mediafire.com/file/ftq6dnsccuq54p4/ProxHTTPSProxyMII_1.3a.zip/file WU-patch: http://www.mediafire.com/file/1ontv0vkh0ghfbi/Restore_WU_XP_2003.7z/file I have already edited the Config.ini so that you can work directly with ProxhttpsProxy. When opening ProxhttpsProxy a new certificate is generated. This certificate must be stored in the local computer's trusted certificate store. Make sure TLS 1.0 and Http 1.1 is enabled via proxy and the Windows Update patch is installed! It works without additional updates! It is also suitable if the CPU does not support SSE2. @AstroSkipper What do you say? Is it a good option?

At the top of the page, there's a dark mode toggle. However, clicking on it doesn't enable dark mode, it just reloads the page. There is a button next to it that pops up the Customizer; all the options in the popup work, except for the Dark Mode option at the top - clicking on it exhibits the same behavior, it just reloads the page without enabling dark mode. I tried this in Firefox and in Edge to make sure it wasn't a browser-specific problem. I do use the Dark Reader extension, but it seems to have some difficulty giving this this forum a decent dark theme no matter which mode I use.

For me, remembering the past brings me great pain if I'm to be totally honest. Actually, there is a difference, though, between Nostalgic and Wistful. Speaking computers and legacy items from the past ... nothing wrong with 'digging up bones' ' / 'blast from the past' - so to speak. We get a chance to appreciate what others were seeing as brand spanking new and fresh at that time in history. Sometimes it bring lots of us comfort to seek out what is familiar, it seems, at times, just when we get the 'hang' of it ... boom - things are already obsolete; its frustrating. So, being nostalgic is fine; so long as your desire is for novelty sake. However.. wistful, here is where we can fall into regret(s). We can't go back, because yesterday is over and the 'here and now' is what we need to shift our focus on - not what once 'was'. Remember, you are young with your whole life ahead of you. Appreciate the fact that the past 'shapes' you but doesn't 'define' you going forward. I think we all (to some degree) have regrets and wish we could go back and do things differently ( I know I do ); but there is no "undo" button on life, so we (as best as possible) accept that it was a long windy (perhaps bumpy) road to get to where we are now and every day above ground is a blessing! Enjoy life, @Tonny52 and never let a moment u pass by :) "Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards" -Søren Kierkegaard