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what is that "standards thing". I have not heard from it. Every company claims to be standard but in reality all abuses their market power in name of standards. As someone who needs work multiplatform "standards" causes support hell. Only real web standard was XHTML

360 Extreme Explorer Screenshot of the browser: (360 Extreme Explorer, Ver: 13.0.2250.0, "Chrome" Theme) Modified Version download links: v9 --> (Updated 22/03/23) Version: 9.5.0.138 Based on Chromium: 63.0.3239.132 v11 --> (Updated 22/03/23) Version: 11.0.2251.0 Based on Chromium: 69.0.3497.100 v12 --> (Updated 22/03/23) Version: 12.0.1592.0 Based on Chromium: 78.0.3904.108 v13 --> (Updated 22/03/23) Version: 13.0.2250.0 Based on Chromium: 86.0.4240.198 (Updated 22/03/23) Version: 13.0.2310.0 Based on Chromium: 86.0.4240.198 Archive with all versions --> https://archive.org/details/360EE_Modified_Version See: https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2019/05/360-extreme-chrome-browser.html https://web.archive.org/web/20210925152949/https://xpforever.miraheze.org/wiki/360_Extreme_Explorer Note: The changes I made are so many that maybe some little errors related to translation and/or the building of the modification notes can be present so please tell me if you find any. Also, if you want to propose something else, please be aware that I do not have a lot of free time and that at any moment, I could be gone for a while for whatever reasons (I do not intend to be rude with this comment, feel free to speak yourself). If anyone wants to help, it will be truly appreciated. Kafan Mini-Browser Another Chinese Chromium-based browser that seems to be pretty much like a standard Chromium build. Official Page --> https://browser.kfsafe.cn/ Forum --> https://bbs.kafan.cn/forum-298-1.html Screenshot of the browser: Modified Version download link: v1 Version: 1.0.0.121 --> (22/03/23) Version: 1.0.0.127 --> (22/03/23) Based on Chromium: 87.0.4280.66 Folder --> https://archive.org/details/360EE_Modified_Version Observations: - On startup the browser will connect to the website of the search provider selected as default because of the search bar provided on the new tab. - Browser crashing when inserting a USB drive? --> Disable the "Enable new USB backend" flag in "chrome://flags/" (Thanks to @realisty). - Only natively compatible with XP-32bits. It can be used on XP-64bits thanks to @Matias Groen (see XP x64 folder). - Very heavy for old computers. - Doesn't have NPAPI support. Original download link (you can unzip the EXE file with 7zip): http://browser-download.kfsafe.cn/MiniBrowserSetup.exe (currently down) Internet Archive alternative link --> http://web.archive.org/web/20221201234530/http://browser-download.kfsafe.cn/MiniBrowserSetup.exe DC Browser A Chinese Chromium-based browser. The only version compatible with XP is v4 (Chromium 75). Official page --> http://dcbrowser.cqttech.com/home Screenshot of the browser: Modified Version download link: v4 --> (Updated 22/03/23) Version: 4.0.7.22 Based on Chromium: 75.0.3770.100 Folder --> https://archive.org/details/360EE_Modified_Version Observations: - On startup the browser will connect to the website of the search provider selected as default. Similar to Mini-Browser. - All default extensions were removed (the PDF Feature and Screen Capture will not work). You can get them out of the browser's interface through the settings. - Doesn't have NPAPI support. - Has DRM support (Win7+) --> https://bitmovin.com/demos/drm Original download link (you need to install to get the browser files, fortunately you can set the location of the installation): http://file.cdn.cqttech.com/dcbrowser/DCBrowser_1261_4.0.7.22.exe Patcher to retrieve the translation function for all browsers modified --> https://archive.org/details/360EE_Modified_Version Usage: - Inside the "trans_patch.7z" there is a "trans_patch" folder. Extract it. - Copy and paste the folder in the same place the browser executable file is. - After that, enter the folder and execute "trans-patch.bat". - A command-line interface will show up. Depending on the browser you are trying to apply the patches a small question will be promted on CMD. If everything goes correctly the program will show you at the end "Press any key to continue". Press any key, open the browser and check if the translation function was restored. After all that you can delete the "trans_patch" folder. It should work without errors. If anything else happens tell me. Thanks to all the following for the information I could gather for the modification of these browsers: @Windows 2000, @VistaLover, @Sampei.Nihira, @win32, @DragonSC7601, @redapple0204, @blackwingcat, @404notfound, @Cixert, @thebuildone, @ArcticFoxie, @Dixel, The Russian Repackers, @dmiranda, @we3fan, @athlonxpuser and @Greyfox77 I really hope this can help someone, Cheers. - Humming Owl

Due to the doubts and the incipient erroneous articles published on the Internet saying that Windows XP does not have updated browsers, I open this post indicating the complete information on all the companies or software programmers that make versions of browsers compatible with Windows XP. But first it is necessary to clarify some fundamental concepts. The first is that today there are only 2 Internet browser projects for Windows. The Chromium project and the Mozilla foundation. No, the basic existing browsers are not Google Chrome, Opera, Firefox and Microsoft Edge. Opera abandoned its own "Presto" browser engine in 2012, Microsoft stopped developing its own browser known as Internet Explorer in 2015 & and later stopped developing its own motor in Edge in 2019. Now both the Opera browser and Microsoft's browser are based on the Chromium project. An open source database for developing a web browser, maintained by various companies that later use the source code to create their own version of the browser with additional features. Google develops Chrome and Microsoft develops Edge, same as multiple companies using the same codebase as above, for example Opera. None of these companies develops versions compatible with Windows XP but many others do, for many they are unknown companies but in China they generally work with Windows XP due to the delicacy of the manufacturing processes and the independent control provided by this operating system. By not needing direct connections with Microsoft and therefore with the US Government. There are many Chinese browsers based on both Chromium and Mozilla, the Chromium versions come with telemetry for the Chinese Government to know which websites you visit (Google also does it for the USA and stronger) but there are modified versions that have this capacity removed . There are also browsers from other places but they are less developed such as Otter Browser or RetroZilla. Based on Mozilla we can also find updated browsers even for Windows 2000, although for this system they have not passed the beta phase as forks of K-Meleon and PaleMoon developed by Roytam1. Sin embargo for Windows XP you can find several browsers modified to work on this operating system, whose versions are continuously updated. These come in English and many can be patched in another language. For Windows XP I recommend using the English Chromium-based versions, especially 360 Extreme Explorer modified version without telemetry, due to their speed compared to Mozilla-based browsers. User interface can be found in English and in Chinese. Multilanguage only come with Kafan MiniBrowser (except installer), Maxthon and UC Browser. If we want to view the web pages in other specific languages, we must also modify the language in which we want to view them by default. To work with Chromium it is essential that we understand the Windows certificate system, since the https web pages display depends on our Windows certificates being up to date. While for Mozilla-based browsers it is not necessary, since they are integrated into the browser itself and it is not necessary to update them independently. To update the Windows XP certificates, download a package updated by the Japanese @blackwingcat on its Windows Legacy Update website: http://win2k.org/wlu/wluen.htm We go to the manual update section and look for certificates. Unzip the file with 7-Zip or WinRar and then install it. Note: The files on this website come in a format that I have not been able to use in Spanish XP, even discussing it with the author. They may work in other languages but if not don't worry, unzip with 7-zip and install. Below I indicate which are the best developments for Windows XP and its base code version in April 2022. BASED ON MOZILLA. THE BEST BROWSERS ARE THESE: By @roytam1 (Goanna based): -New Moon (Pale Moon fork & Firefox fork) -K-Meleon (K-Meleon fork & Firefox fork) -Serpent / UXP basilisk52 (Basilisk fork & Firefox fork) -Serpent / Mobieus basilisk55 (Basilisk fork & Firefox fork) All are versioned by Roytam1 and lack telemetry for the use of any Government, this is their website to download: http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser And in this post on the MSFN forum you can ask questions: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182647-my-browser-builds-part-3/ He also has forks of: -Artic-Fox (MAC fork) -Borealis (Borealis Navigator fork - Netscape Navigator fork) -IceApe (IceWesel fork) And special versions for SSE 1 processors. Automatic unofficial installer for roytam1’s browsers by @i430VX http://i430vx.net/files/XP/RoyTam Browser Installer.exe (this may not work on multiple languages or personalized installations) By @feodor2 Quantum 68-78 based (NEW): -MyPal 68 https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/ Goanna based (project is down on September 2021): -MyPal (Pale Moon fork & Firefox fork) https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal http://www.mypal-browser.org/release -Centaury (Basilisk fork & Firefox fork) https://github.com/Feodor2/Centaury/releases THE FULL LIST OF CHROMIUM_BASED BROWSERS IS THIS: -2345 Explorer (Chinese only) http://ie.2345.cc/ (for PC) https://app.2345.com/ (for phone) -360 Extreme Explorer (webkit adapted to Blink + Trident (IE according to web compatibility) 360 Extreme Explorer is the current name of the international version of the Chinese 360 Secure Explorer. Not to be confused with the name "Browser 360" which refers to an old international version whose latest version is 7.5.2.104 and it is based on Chromium 31 https://360-browser.en.softonic.com/ International versions based on Chromium 78 or higher are called "360 Extreme Explorer", in this post on the MSFN forum you can ask questions: https://msfn.org/board/topic/178380-extreme-explorer-360-chromium-78-general-discussion Download Links: Official international version (web english version only download old version 11): https://browser.360.cn/ee/en.html On Septembre 2021 web for english version only on Chinese (careful, uninstall 360 also only on Chinese) https://browser.360.cn/ee/ 360 Extreme Explorer versions with telemetry removed: From versions 12 and 13 (Chromium 86), for 360 Extreme Explorer to correctly display the certificate on some https pages, and their style sheet, it requires activating compatibility mode with Windows 2000 by right clicking on the executable file .EXE. @Humming Owl modified versions: -post on MSFN: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/ -folders: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/fuwfohw2b75ot/02-10-21 https://archive.org/details/360EE_Modified_Version Arcticfoxie modified versions (aka @NotHereToPlayGames modified versions): https://msfn.org/board/topic/182993-360-extreme-explorer-arcticfoxie-versions/ Version R8 for low memory computers: https://msfn.org/board/topic/184515-arcticfoxienotheretoplaygames-360chrome-v1351030-rebuild-8/ Modified in China: (several users report that the telemetry is not completely canceled, that the deletion is partial) http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/360chrome.html Modified in Russia: (several users report that the telemetry is not completely canceled, that the deletion is partial) https://rsload.net/soft/browser/17362-360-browser.html https://lrepacks.ru/repaki-programm-dlya-interneta/182-360-extreme-explorer-amp-portable.html Forum in Russian to modify the official international version: http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=5&topic=49673 The current version for the Chinese market is called ... -360 Secure Explorer also known as 360 Secure Browser The official version can be downloaded here (only in Chinese language) http://browser.360.cn/ And here is the modified version in China: http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/360se.html -DC Browser v.4 (Chromium 75) Note: With the official version I have experienced multiple blue screens, the modified version I have not tried yet. Official version: http://dcbrowser.cqttech.com/home @Humming Owl modified versions: -post on MSFN: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/ -download folders https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gc3rbagwt99pr/DC_Browser_Modified_Version -Kafan MiniBrowser aka MiniBlink aka MiniChrome (Chromium 87) Official version multilanguage (install only Chinese): https://browser.kfsafe.cn Forum: https://bbs.kafan.cn/forum-298-1.html Maximum perfomance: 2 GiB RAM: 5 tabs open 8 GiB RAM: 25 tabs open @Humming Owl modified versions: -Post on MSFN: https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/ -Download folders https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ytdozcs6wco9x/Mini_Browser_Modified_Version -Liebao aka Kingsoft Cheetah Secure Browser Official version: https://www.liebao.cn/ Change Chinese language to English: https://malwaretips.com/threads/liebao-cheetah-browser.381. Portable version https://www.portableSoft.org/down/3022/ -Maxthon (Blink + Trident + Webkit) (Chromium 69) Official multilanguage version: * https://www.maxthon.com/ * Version 6.x is not compatible with Windows XP. * Version 5.x is the latest compatible with Windows XP. MaxThon 5.3.8.2100 Beta (2020-01-06): https://forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/release-notes5/%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%0%C2%A0%C2% A0V-5382100-R214 / MaxThom 5.3.8.2000 Release (2019-10-24): https://forum.maxthon.com/index.php?/release-notes5/%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%0%C2%A0%C2% A0V-5382000-R213 / -QQ Browser (Blink + Trident) Official version (care, better not install, it looks like a virus / spyware that makes a lot of advertising in all your computer) https://browser.qq.com/ -Sogou Explorer (It only exists in Chinese language) Official version: https://ie.sogou.com/ Version modified in China: http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/sogouexplorer.html. Both on Windows XP and on Windows 10 it gives me the following error: w10 error xx183 cannot create a file that already exists -UC Browser (Chromium 54) This browser has been discontinued, after being accused of stealing user data. The latest version for Windows (7.0.185.1002) is from the year 2018. Official links have stopped working in some countries. Official version multilanguage: http://www.ucweb.com/ucbrowser/download/ Alternative download: https://www.filehorse.com/download-uc-browser-for-windows/ Modified version in China (it is possible to change the language to English after navigating the menu in Chinese): http://www.qiuquan.cc/browser/ucbrower.html -TS Browser (Chromium 75) Official version: http://tsbrowser.xiangtatech.com It seems to work as well as 360 Extreme Explorer but I haven't gotten it to read the updated certificates. OTHER BROWSERS FOR WINDOWS XP -ArtisBrowser (prevents the user from copying anything from sites) Copy extensions to the browser profile, many of the extensions it will work. Firefox based browser, which apparently prevents the user from copying anything from the sites, although not found it to be the case. It doesn't work for all websites, although it does work on 'some' sites where the newer modified Mozilla type modded browsers don't work as well... maybe it's related to the API... Many extensions work. Link that determines the operating system you are using: https://artistscope.com/artisbrowser/artisbrowser-download.asp Link that downloads the latest version that works on Windows XP: https://images.artistscope.com/download/ASPS_Browser_install_XP.zip -Lobo Evolution (Java browser in Alpha phase) This is a current fork of the Lobo browser that was discontinued in 2009. Tested the latest version 3.0, it works exaggeratedly slow. Official Downloads: Github (last updated version) https://github.com/LoboEvolution/LoboEvolution/releases Sourceforge (only up to v.2.0) https://sourceforge.net/projects/loboevolution/ Original Wolf of the Year 2009: https://lobobrowser.org/ -Netsurf (experimental without Javascript) https://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/windows/ -Otter Browser (Opera Classic - Qt5) https://otter-browser.org -Opera 12.18_45 unofficial (mod 06.11.20) (russian original but english is possible) https://www.upload.ee/files/12483022/Opera_Unofficial_Portable_12.18_45.zip.html (link is down) alternatives download: https://disk.yandex.ru/d/HbQfEL8dnx_c7A https://yadi.sk/d/ANkjyZ6Hfws34w With certificates (zip password "111"): https://www.mediafire.com/folder/xndaaefaebnib/Browsers Instruction for menu Opera with english language https://msfn.org/board/topic/182794-updated-browser-list-for-windows-xp/?do=findComment&comment=1208594 Forum: https://www.tenforums.com/general-support/172922-windows-xp-2021-system-build-modern-pc.html http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8570 Forum certificates: https://forums.opera.com/topic/9630/opera-12-17-tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-settings-not-persistent/9 -RetroZilla (Gecko 1.8.1 fork) https://github.com/rn10950/RetroZilla/releases/ Also compatible with Windows 95Ç -Tor Browser 7.5.6 unoffial updated internal components, with Tor 0.4.5.8 (Release May, 2021). English and Russian packs. https://www.upload.ee/files/13208675/TB756_en_0458.ZIP.html (English) SHA256: a22a94bd1d4f23b6b1538ce3cddc3555e0c67fe423d80f4e541b8c8a409f3dc4 https://www.upload.ee/files/13208684/TB756_ru_0458.ZIP.html (Russian) SHA256: d0036853c3fd6de568f274f10a63fa4b46db0c0bc7669045f41c2f37f8a20fb9 Forum: https://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=5834#20 https://www.tenforums.com/general-support/172922-windows-xp-2021-system-build-modern-pc.html BROWSERS FOR TEST WEB PAGES -Utility Firefox Collection http://utilu.com/UtiluMFC/#download -Utility IE Collection http://utilu.com/IECollection/#download CLIENTS THAT DISPLAY MODERN WEB PAGES IN OLD BROWSERS, THANKS TO A PROXY SERVER THAT CONVERTS WEB PAGES INTO IMAGES -Browser Service (requires own Linux server): https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice/releases/tag/v0.9.2.2 Instruction: https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice -WRP (requires own server): https://github.com/tenox7/wrp/releases/ Instruction: https://github.com/tenox7/wrp SEARCH ENGINE THAT WORKS IN OLDER BROWSERS -FrogFind (showing only text) http://www.frogfind.com PAGES ARE BEING CREATED WITH VARIOUS UPDATED INFORMATION -XPforever https://xpforever.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page -retrobrowser.com http://retrobrowsers.com/windowsxp -Retro System Revival https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/p/final-versions-of-working-software-on.html MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CURRENT WINDOWS XP OPERATION Visit MSFN forum Windows XP section: https://msfn.org/board/forum/34-windows-xp/ This post is available in Spanish here: https://foro.elhacker.net/windows/listado_de_navegadores_actualizados_para_windows_xp-t510585.0.html

I cannot replicate, fonts are fine here. Can you post a screencap with these blurred fonts? Your profiles indicates XP x86 so this shouldn't be the issue, but if you are in something "newer" than XP, then I suggest opening chrome://flags then search for and disable DirectWrite. Also in the chrome://settings/lab page, disable hardware acceleration and disable DirectWrite.

Thanks a lot @Humming Owl and @ArcticFoxie for your versions 12 and 13 of 360Chrome I downloaded recently! - I finally have browsers that play Youtube videos without any problem... my best regards to both of you! I have a little problem though: If the font is blurred, fuzzy on some websites, no immediate reaction on the same tab, if in uBlock Origin latest version 1.37.2 I block remote fonts on this website. ...after setting uBlock to deny remote fonts on the website, no immediate reaction, the font stays blurred after restarting Ublock or the page... But if I then copy this website in the new tab (or after I restart the browser) (with Ublock set blocking remote fonts on this website), the font is no more blurred in this new tab (or after I restart the browser). All this in Humming Owl's and ArcticFoxie's 360Chrome versions 12 and 13. Examples of websites with natively blurred fonts: https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/ematrix/ and https://lehollandaisvolant.net/?d=2020/01/02/11/28/39-ma-liste-des-tweaks-aboutconfig-dans-firefox Thank you very much, both of you, for a very cool 360Chrome versions!

And now the Classic Addons Archive's files are gone as well... See: https://old.reddit.com/r/waterfox/comments/phgle9/classic_ad_on_archive_unfortunately_has_been_shut/ https://github.com/JustOff/ca-archive/issues/100 The complete archive is still accessible via this URL (or via the Internet Archive): https://cdn.waterfox.net/AMO/caa20190306.tar.xz ( 14GB compressed ! ) (file list)

Well I never heard of that, you learn something new every day! I'll have to see if I can find some of those. Although I can put ISOs onto Blu-ray disks, I can't print on them with my printer as they are too thick to work in it!

How ironic that the Pale Moon developers are circling the drain over "web standards" and are now taking everyone down with them.

I'm a die-hard Mets fan -- Brooklyn Blue + Giants Orange. We were doing GREAT until the schedule had us play 13 in a row against the Giants and Dodgers. Mets only won two of those 13 But have come back to win 8 of their last 10 We're still in this!

Hello, On the first run of the browser (without having the "User Data" folder) you have to press the ESC key to be able to interact with it. What prevents you from using the browser on the first run is a remnant of a popup window showing a login dialog for the 360 account. I haven't found yet how to remove that unfortunately. In the first post you can get more info about some other observations in the "Some stuff I remember that I left behind" section. Cheers.

Have you tried these tools to update certificates? https://msfn.org/board/topic/175170-root-certificates-and-revoked-certificates-for-windows-xp/?do=findComment&comment=1110568 http://i430vx.net/files/wsusstuff/ https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2021/03/certificate-updates-for-windows.html Cheers.

What are you talking about? Feodor2 is from Ukraine. Roytam1 is from Hong Kong. According to Ukrainian constitution only Ukrainian laws are legal on territory of Ukraine. I'm pretty sure same is in Constitution of China. So any threats of Tobin is absolutely empty. Don't fall to this old american buzz "uuuu, ama goona sue u!!!111". Tobin, you will sue ZERO people in Ukraine and ZERO in China. Because this is different countries then yours. So you can go screw yourself. You can't even ban anyone here, in fact YOU ARE BANNED HERE, Tobin.

Updated v9, v11, v12 and v13 - Created a minimalistic New Tab page that adapts to the Dark Theme (HTML and CSS only). In the first post are the instructions on how to modify the default shortcuts. - Added the WMP (Windows Media Player) plugin for Firefox. - Added ViewTube to recommended extensions. The extension works on all versions of the browser. Cheers.

Kinda no surprise there. We have regional dealers that are caught holding back fixes like that more often than you might think. There are 300-some "robots" at the factory and 260-some all run XP (I would be fired if I posted a picture, these robots build electrical parts for BMW, Daimler, and Ford and warranty-only parts for a GM model no longer used in current production vehicles). The funny part is the teenage kids working the factory floor right out of high school, "We could build parts faster if that robot was upgraded to Windows 10." You reply, "XP is actually fastest for this application, it's an embedded OS on a socket-479 90nm cpu running at 1.8 GHz with a 400 MHz bus." Their eyes glaze over like they just missed the bus and have to walk to school.

actually impossible. https://hackaday.com/2018/09/27/can-you-take-back-open-source-code/ (P.S.: I'm not going to jump in this mud fight)

Keep us posted. Note that I have uploaded updated rebuilds in the pinned XP 360Chrome thread.

@XP2003 - Having tried all of the browsers that you mentioned, I believe they are all good for different things. You just have to be aware of the pros and cons, the strengths and weaknesses of their respective engines. For example, NM27 can't do everything that 28 can, but NM27 is still a fantastic browser, and more than enough for surfing most sites to this day (it helps if you turn JavaScript off when & where possible, because a lot of modern sites can tax its aging JS engine [which was solid back in the day and is STILL good if you visit sites with well-coded JS, though those are now few and far between]). What's important is having something that works for your needs, and experimentation is not only useful but encouraged. Roy's SSE builds are optimized for processors that support SSE but which do not have SSE2 (for example, Pentium III, PIII-derived Celeron, and Athlon XP). Of course, you can still run an SSE build on a modern processor and it will work absolutely fine, but unless an SSE build is as high as you can go (I think it's the upper limit for his periodic Firefox 45ESR builds), you're better off using the Win32 builds because those are better optimized for SSE2+ capable processors. The IA32 builds should be able to run theoretically on anything as low as a 386, but for XP the minimum is a pre-MMX Pentium (so that is as low as you can go for testing purposes). @ArcticFoxie - I am typing this from your 360v12 build...I'm VERY impressed with your efforts here. You've clearly put a lot of effort into tweaking this for the best possible performance. I only had to change a few things in the main settings (I didn't touch the deeper stuff), more out of personal preference (nitpicks) than anything else. This is running like a champ, and is incredibly stable. Not one crash so far, and it's quite a bit faster than v13 (the speed difference is especially noticeable on my old GX620 with a 2.8GHz Pentium D and 2GB GTX 750 Ti [which REALLY helps]). In fact, I'm now pairing it with the latest NM28 build (as it uses pretty much the same engine as Serpent52 with a more old-school interface, and because I don't really use WebRTC or any of the other 'modern' features in Serpent). Kudos to you--this is absolutely solid! For now, your v12 has dethroned any version of v13 as my secondary browser. @roytam1 - Thank you for the update! Even when there are no UXP updates, I'm always happy to see all of the binaries you share.

Have you tried any of the 360Chrome releases? Here is the download link to my v12 -- https://www.dropbox.com/s/2r7r53j4i55iuyw/360Chrome%2012.0.1247.zip Here is the download link to my v13rev3 -- https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyyimm3h58r3963/360Chrome%202206%20rebuild%203%20-%20unran%20-%20MSFN.zip Humming Owl's releases -- https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/ My v12 has been rock-solid for YouTube. I have TRIED to crash it by loading twenty YouTube videos with all twenty playing 720 and with all twenty having audio on. I have not been able to crash v12 no matter how hard I try. Most tests are performed in XP x64 with 16MB RAM but I have also tested in XP x86 with 4MB RAM with twelve YouTube videos.

Thank you very much for your kind words, @Humming Owl! I hope it was not bothersome or inconvenient to mention you here...I'm not sure if there's any kind of competition (if there is, hopefully it's in the healthiest sense) between you and others creating browsers. The reason I mentioned you is because I've also been following your thread, and in fact I use your latest build of 360Chrome v13 as a secondary browser (for all of the things that Serpent52 can't quite handle). For me, it's a nearly flawless one-two punch: each picks up the other's slack, and the unique features of both make for an amazing user experience. Serpent's an all-in-one browser that can do Java/Flash/Silverlight/Shockwave (essential for me as I still enjoy Homestar Runner shorts in their original .swf form [those HTML5 conversions aren't doing it for me] and going to the Andkon Arcade to get my online game fix, among a myriad of other things), and 360Chrome works great for Twitter and other sites that are really optimized more for Chromium. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens going forward with all of the different XP related projects being shared here on MSFN--I'm never the type to pledge allegiance or swear loyalty to any particular program or any particular programmer, but I am always the type to give credit where it's due. Though it is becoming clearer with time which programs work best for my personal needs, I am always happy to try something new...if it works, it works, but in general I tend to take older versions of software because they are lighter on CPU/RAM usage than the latest ones (for example, I'm still rocking Office 97 to this day). However, I always strive to keep my browsers up to date, so any developments on that front are of particular interest to me. I am very excited to follow all of the latest news and see what people will hopefully continue to do with this legendary OS! -cmccaff1 P.S. @feodor2 - I could not reliably shoulder the responsibilities involved, so I would not be a good owner, but I am very happy you have found what appears to be a good resolution to the situation for now. Please keep your head up and don't let anyone's negativity get you down...you are doing great work!

Hello. @cmccaff1 I have to say it, this is a very good comment. Everything is very well described and narrated. It is good to meet people like you, and welcome to MSFN! (you were already a member since long ago but it is nice a little welcome ) I know that it seems weird that I am posting here but I wanted to say that. I've also seen the situation and want to tell @feodor2 not to worry about those guys trying to ditch you up, you have done a very good work. Do not let anyone destroy what you have accomplished. Even if they are correct about the legal issues (the bad intentions make me wonder), that does not mean that you have to eliminate everything you have done (at least those are my thoughts). I am sure everything will be fine at the end. Cheers.

Greetings, everyone...I hope my presence here will not be unwelcome. I have been following the happenings on this website with great happiness and excitement for many years. It is wonderful, as a longtime XP user, to see what many of this site's users have been able to accomplish in keeping it a viable OS long after many mainstream companies started leaving it for dead. For me, XP represents Windows' finest hour--while retaining remarkable compatibility with many legacy applications and older hardware, it is still modern enough to be amazingly reliable as a daily-use OS. Hassle-free installation, easy to customize and tweak to your liking, and built on mature, stable code...MS truly outdid themselves. I wasn't planning to say anything, but in light of recent events I felt compelled to speak my piece on the situation at hand, and of course I am speaking strictly as a sideline observer. First of all, I want to say that I have tremendous appreciation and the utmost respect for @roytam1 and @feodor2. Their programming knowledge and dedication to maintaining XP compatible forks of Basilisk and Pale Moon is admirable by any measure (and Roy's other browser projects, past and present, are also commendable). Though I have admittedly been sticking with Roy's Serpent52 weeklies, I have tested some of Feodor's MyPal and Centaury releases and always found them rock-solid...I didn't have a single problem with any of the builds that I tried. I'm not going to comment on Tobin personally, only the way that he and his peers have handled the circumstances involving Feodor. I do not believe they have approached it diplomatically or respectfully--it definitely seemed like there was (and is) malicious intent. From where I stand they are completely in the wrong to attack Feodor the way they have. At the same time it seems they were given a reason and opportunity to attack because (if my understanding is correct, and please forgive/correct me if I'm overlooking anything major) the source code was not available or easily accessible for every Centaury build going back to the earliest (whereas MyPal builds always have the source code for the corresponding build available and accessible). I don't hold it against Feodor at all, because for what it's worth Basilisk builds are not as clearly definable as Pale Moon ones since Basilisk is more of an experimental platform for UXP that also happens to double as a worthy successor to the Australis-era Firefox (whereas Pale Moon is the 'main event', the featured attraction). What's truly ironic to me is that Basilisk was created as a way to maintain the Australis interface and restore features eliminated from Firefox, while the same applies to Pale Moon (except it's the 4-28 interface). You would think that the Moonchild developers' dedication to sustaining all of these different elements after Mozilla deprecated them would translate into great enthusiasm for those who are trying to sustain compatibility with older OSes. I've never seen any of them say anything remotely nice about Roy or Feodor (please correct me if I'm wrong)--I'd think they would actually be quite impressed with how they got their officially 'incompatible' browsers fully functional in an OS they abandoned. Instead of showing respect, honoring their hard work and working with them to get the best out of these browsers and out of each other, they have dismissed them and expressed great disdain not only towards them but those who (like me) prefer XP over later versions of Windows. I will say this, however: I do have tremendous respect for the Moonchild team & the effort they've put into their browsers for so long. There are definitely a lot of talented coders over at MCP, and I wish them all the best for continued success because their browsers have helped to keep alive all of the old features that we appreciated back then, and can thankfully still appreciate and make use of now. But though their browsers are good, when they express toxicity/hatefulness of the sort that I've seen, it makes their character look bad. I realize that this message has gotten very long, so I'm going to wrap things up here. From the bottom of my heart, I offer my most sincere gratitude to Roy, Feodor, and everyone else who is working on XP related browser projects (shouts out to @Humming Owl on the 360Chrome builds, as well as @ArcticFoxie and @Dixel [who I know are also doing their own builds], and everyone else who is helping to keep XP useful for the Internet and anything else you could ever want to use it for!) I hope you'll all keep up the good work, and that you won't lose your passion for this great OS...long live XP, and God bless everyone! -cmccaff1

Yesterday I wanted to go ahead and give Windowblinds another try. And to my surprise Windowblinds has improved a lot!!! This is a screenshot of my desktop: Things that WB has improved: Now you can have the more beautiful blur from Vista/7 instead of the acrylic blur from W10 It doesn't feel glitchy anymore You can now either exclude firefox/chrome or integrate to WB skin. Before it wasn't supported. Things I like WB over Glass8: Full W10 support Buttons glow just like in Vista/7 When maximized the transparency is disabled just like in Vista. I liked this feature so bad: The only work around I had to do was to uninstall Startisback+ because is not compatible with WB. Instead installed Classic Shell which works really well with WB. I don't miss Startisback+ at all. All being said, I think WB is now a good successor of Glass8 and I'll keep it. I'd even say that WB is better than Glass8 at this point. The only thing that Glass8 made better was live reflections on glass theme. WB has fixed reflections. I have only one little issue and that is when I open a fresh explorer.exe window I get a black line under the path bar: That black line goes away as soon as the window gets inactive or minimizes/maximized so not a big issue. Well guys if you haven't give WB a try. It's all good now. EDIT: I managed to fix the black line issue. It was a compatibility issue with OldNewExplorer. I disabled a couple of options on OldNewExplorer and it works perfect now! I think I'm more satisfied now with WB than I was with Glass8. I feel it is a more powerful solution given that you can not only add glass + blur to the borders but also you can have Windows themes in the same platform

@Montana Slim - Here is the download link to my v12 -- https://www.dropbox.com/s/2r7r53j4i55iuyw/360Chrome%2012.0.1247.zip Here is the download link to my v13rev3 -- https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyyimm3h58r3963/360Chrome%202206%20rebuild%203%20-%20unran%20-%20MSFN.zip