The wretched Chrome Client Hints, another Doomsday of privacy: ways out of it.

[Saxon]

15 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Because the OP specifically cited XP and we get these all the time.  XP users keep forgetting that XP cannot do "elliptic curve".

@Dixelwrote about Cloudfare captcha, not that Latvian provider.

https://2captcha.com/demo/cloudflare-turnstile

[Dixel]

15 hours ago, Saxon said:

@Dixelwrote about Cloudfare captcha, not that Latvian provider.

https://2captcha.com/demo/cloudflare-turnstile

Indeed right, I somehow managed to get through it with faking canvas with Ungoogled, not a solution though.

[Saxon]

15 hours ago, Dixel said:

Indeed right, I somehow managed to get through it with faking canvas with Ungoogled, not a solution though.

For me, that test is 50/50 chance, even on my newest hardware. Chrome eats up the CPU.

[D.Draker]

On 8/17/2024 at 9:49 AM, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Because the OP specifically cited XP and we get these all the time.  XP users keep forgetting that XP cannot do "elliptic curve".

Developer had answered and agreed with Dixel.

"Possible UACH discrimination issue."

https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/issues/797#issuecomment-2295137035"

BTW, certs can be bypassed with a flag, it's not the reason.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

2 hours ago, D.Draker said:

"Possible UACH discrimination issue."

The key word seems to be POSSIBLE.

The proof is always via PICTURES or even VIDEO.

Show me a "before and after", otherwise I'm calling "BS".

[Dixel]

11 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

The key word seems to be POSSIBLE.

The proof is always via PICTURES or even VIDEO.

Show me a "before and after", otherwise I'm calling "BS".

It's win32, the developer wrote, not D.Draker.

[Dixel]

11 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

The proof is always via PICTURES or even VIDEO.

Besides, what other proof do you need? It's very easy reproducible. Also, the screens are posted at the github's link I gave.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

win32ss also added this  --  That's why Supermium will soon default to identifying as Google Chrome 128 running on Windows 11.

Here is what Ungoogled Chromium shows for UACH:

 

The cloudflare capcha works perfectly fine in Ungoogled v122, so if (which I do not believe...  yet!), so IF this is "UACH discrimination", then it's discrimination against Supermium and NOT OLDER CHROME V122.

 

SUPERMIUM SHOWS THE SAME EXACT UACH BY DEFAULT - THIS IS NOT A UACH ISSUE!

Edited August 18, 2024 by NotHereToPlayGames

[NotHereToPlayGames]

One moment...  I shall now screencap SUPERMIUM with the same EXACT UACH as Ungoogled v122.  Give me a moment to hex out win32ss's UACH and hex in what is being CLAIMED as a fix to the OPs enquiry.

And will do so using what the OP reported:

ie,

Does anyone else have similar problems?

Windows XPSP3, Supermium_x86 124.0.6367.245 / 122.0.6261.152

Edited August 18, 2024 by NotHereToPlayGames

[NotHereToPlayGames]

24 minutes ago, Dixel said:

It's win32, the developer wrote, not D.Draker.

I know!

My point is I'm not buying into this claim!

I could be wrong, I'll have no problem admitting it.

But until, and ONLY until I witness the OPs website "not work with default UACH but THEN WORK WITH AN UPDATED UACH should ANY of us "agree" that this is a UACH issue !!!

[NotHereToPlayGames]

No offense, but you guys are full of "hit".  And this is WHY that KEYWORD of POSSIBLE was written by win32ss - because he himself did not prove nor disprove, he just accepted the "hint" that it's UACH  --  IT ISN'T.

Supermium BY DEFAULT, I've made NO CHANGES, already reports the same EXACT UACH as Ungoogled v122.

I'll add the screencap above.  MSFN no longer likes multiple screencap posts within a certain time span but does let you add to previous posts.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

You guys are grasping at straws, plain and simple.

And you're not even trying to PROVE anything.  You're just throwing out a UACH claim and thinking we will follow like Lemmings over the cliff.

Edited August 18, 2024 by NotHereToPlayGames

[Dixel]

13 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

You guys are grasping at straws, plain and simple.

And you're not even trying to PROVE anything.  You're just throwing out a UACH claim and thinking we will follow like Lemmings over the cliff.

Right, we aren't trying to "PROVE" anything.  We have you for that. Give us your version of events. We don't insist of anything. What about the website (bank? utilities?) that blocked you from XP?
Isn't it the same case?

[NotHereToPlayGames]

1 hour ago, Dixel said:

What about the website (bank? utilities?) that blocked you from XP?

It was not UACH !!!

Bottom line, your bias against UACH is clouding your investigation.  Your investigation is SUBJECTIVE versus OBJECTIVE.

I invite you to have @AstroSkipper investigate this FOR YOU.  He will be purely objective and scientific.

As is, you SEEM TO BE so CONVINCED that this is a UACH issue that you CANNOT see past that PRE-CONCEIVED NOTION.

Sorry, that's the BEST that I have for you.  Supermium 122 and Ungoogled 122 send the same exact UACH and I even screencap'd that for you.

There is nothing more for me to do here other than SIT AND WAIT for win32 to release a Supermium version that broadcasts a UACH of Chrome 128 on Win11 then tell you I TOLD YOU SO when the OPs website continues to cloudflare-cycle in WinXP SP3.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

But let's be as real and honest as we can here.  If we REALLY want to isolate this as UACH, then that should be the ONLY "variable" changed!

Technically, to be truly scientific, win32 should re-release a v122 that broadcasts a UACH of Chrome 128 on Win11.  MAKE NO OTHER CHANGES EXCEPT THAT ONE VARIABLE.  Then test in XP SP3 !!!

He's not going to!  Because I am 100% positive that even he himself doesn't really think UACH is the issue here.  He hasn't done anything to prove or disprove, he merely threw out a "probably" response to appease the audience.

Sorry, that's what it looks like from "this perspective".  Again, I have no problem whatsoever in "being wrong".  But I also have no problem whatsoever in saying "I told you so".  

Edited August 18, 2024 by NotHereToPlayGames