Dave-H Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 FWIW, I have no idea how much Thorium and Supermium can be considered to be 'clones'. As far as I'm concerned if they were clones they would be identical, and that they are not! Although they look so similar they must have both started from the same base, they have different developers working on them, so they have diverged. I'm still very grateful (and still astounded!) that they both work on Windows XP, albeit with some issues, using such a recent Chromium version. A few years ago, I'm sure we all thought that would be absolutely impossible! I'm sticking with Thorium now, although still keeping an eye on where Supermium is going too of course. Thorium has a couple of facilities now that I was really missing after using 360Chrome, natively keeping the browser open when the last tab is closed, without having to use an extension to do it, and double-clicking to close tabs, which I use all the time, and I first got used to back in the days of Presto Opera! The only important (to me) thing still missing is a setting to always open bookmarks in a new tab, which you could also do on 360Chrome. I hate it when you click on a link and it overwrites the current tab. I know you can do it with middle click and the right click menu, but I got used to opening bookmarks automatically in new tabs without having to think about it! There doesn't seem to be an extension which will easily and simply fix that, not that I've found, anyway. I'm very pleased that both the Thorium and Supermium developers seem to now be committed to producing un-Googled versions. For those that want that, I hope they don't have to wait for too long. 3
Guest Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 49 minutes ago, Dave-H said: FWIW, I have no idea how much Thorium and Supermium can be considered to be 'clones'. As far as I'm concerned if they were clones they would be identical, and that they are not! Although they look so similar they must have both started from the same base, they have different developers working on them, so they have diverged. I'm still very grateful (and still astounded!) that they both work on Windows XP, albeit with some issues, using such a recent Chromium version. A few years ago, I'm sure we all thought that would be absolutely impossible! I'm sticking with Thorium now, although still keeping an eye on where Supermium is going too of course. Thorium has a couple of facilities now that I was really missing after using 360Chrome, natively keeping the browser open when the last tab is closed, without having to use an extension to do it, and double-clicking to close tabs, which I use all the time, and I first got used to back in the days of Presto Opera! The only important (to me) thing still missing is a setting to always open bookmarks in a new tab, which you could also do on 360Chrome. I hate it when you click on a link and it overwrites the current tab. I know you can do it with middle click and the right click menu, but I got used to opening bookmarks automatically in new tabs without having to think about it! There doesn't seem to be an extension which will easily and simply fix that, not that I've found, anyway. I'm very pleased that both the Thorium and Supermium developers seem to now be committed to producing un-Googled versions. For those that want that, I hope they don't have to wait for too long. Hi. If you need to block Google services you can make up for it with various filter lists found in Filterlists. Check which one is best for your needs. In the image I have included a filter in software (choose your adblock) then you can search for “Google”:
D.Draker Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 17 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: On my XP x64, rebasing 360Chrome .dll's actually MADE MY FIRST LAUNCH TIME WORSE. So I actually NEVER rebase my .dll's! Honestly, something strange is going on, do you drag the same nlited ISO across all of your hardware? None of us here have the same problem with either this or the first launch. 4
Dave-H Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 1 hour ago, Sampei.Nihira said: Hi. If you need to block Google services you can make up for it with various filter lists found in Filterlists. Check which one is best for your needs. In the image I have included a filter in software (choose your adblock) then you can search for “Google”: Thanks, that's good to know, although personally I'm not worried about my browsers being 'Googled'. 1
Dave-H Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 Just going back to the Digital Spy forums site again (sorry!) It's a good example of a site with missing icons, too. This is Supermium - and this is Thorium - Likewise at the bottom of the same page. Supermium - Thorium - Quite why Thorium should have such problems with this site, when Supermium doesn't, is a bit of a mystery to me, and certainly proves that the two browsers are not 'clones'!
Guest Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 (edited) @Dave-H Usually that “problem” is associated with blocking/malfunctioning of remote fonts. If you block in UBO (Supermium) remote fonts (click the mouse where I inserted the arrow) you will get the same layout: You can open an issue in Github to notify of this glitch. Edited April 27, 2024 by Sampei.Nihira
D.Draker Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 3 hours ago, Dave-H said: It's a good example of a site with missing icons, too. Looks like win32 added the proper dreaded emoji font or whatever they call it, and thorium didn't. 5
Dixel Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 4 hours ago, Dave-H said: missing icons it misses ds-icons https://www.flaticon.com/free-icons/ds one example "ds-icon-instagram", the third one. 5
jumper Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 19 hours ago, XPerceniol said: Thorium takes 31 seconds to load, once that is over and I do something else, the browser loads just fine in a reasonable manor. Again, rebase the dlls; no? No. Defrag the drive or run from RAM disk. Unfortunately, only loading all needed files will get everything into the disk cache. Scanning the app folder should help. Try Dependency Walker (or ImportPatcher for 32-bit apps). 1
jumper Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 18 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: On my XP x64, rebasing 360Chrome .dll's actually MADE MY FIRST LAUNCH TIME WORSE. So I actually NEVER rebase my .dll's! Rebasing also scatters the files on the disk. Try defragging after modifying files. 1
XPerceniol Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 11 hours ago, D.Draker said: I found an error, you missed 1 letter in --disable-webgl Oh, thank you for catching that. Sal
Dave-H Posted April 27, 2024 Posted April 27, 2024 I've reported the DigitalSpy site font and icon problems to the developer on GitHub. We'll see what happens. 1
XPerceniol Posted April 28, 2024 Posted April 28, 2024 13 hours ago, Dave-H said: ..I'm still very grateful (and still astounded!) that they both work on Windows XP, albeit with some issues, using such a recent Chromium version. A few years ago, I'm sure we all thought that would be absolutely impossible! Oh yes yes sorry if I also didn't give that impression - very grateful to have options going forward if my computers are still running when 360 Chrome becomes unusable.
hidao Posted April 28, 2024 Posted April 28, 2024 14 hours ago, Dave-H said: FWIW, I have no idea how much Thorium and Supermium can be considered to be 'clones'. As far as I'm concerned if they were clones they would be identical, and that they are not! Although they look so similar they must have both started from the same base, they have different developers working on them, so they have diverged. I'm still very grateful (and still astounded!) that they both work on Windows XP, albeit with some issues, using such a recent Chromium version. A few years ago, I'm sure we all thought that would be absolutely impossible! I'm sticking with Thorium now, although still keeping an eye on where Supermium is going too of course. Thorium has a couple of facilities now that I was really missing after using 360Chrome, natively keeping the browser open when the last tab is closed, without having to use an extension to do it, and double-clicking to close tabs, which I use all the time, and I first got used to back in the days of Presto Opera! The only important (to me) thing still missing is a setting to always open bookmarks in a new tab, which you could also do on 360Chrome. I hate it when you click on a link and it overwrites the current tab. I know you can do it with middle click and the right click menu, but I got used to opening bookmarks automatically in new tabs without having to think about it! There doesn't seem to be an extension which will easily and simply fix that, not that I've found, anyway. I'm very pleased that both the Thorium and Supermium developers seem to now be committed to producing un-Googled versions. For those that want that, I hope they don't have to wait for too long. HA, not like you, I like the way to use middle click to open link in a new tab, and also I use middle click to close the tab
Dixel Posted April 28, 2024 Posted April 28, 2024 Alex313031: "I have fixed GDI fonts being askew by rolling a newer version of Skia and then using a patch that win32ss created. " https://github.com/Alex313031/Thorium-Win/issues/210#issuecomment-2081336104 2
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