The funny outcome of modern social media

[sunryze]

Within the last few months we have seen the biggest decrease and corporate self destruction I at least have ever seen. Reddit and Twitter, both competing to see who can destroy their platform the fastest!

Kinda makes me think after this that even after how advertisers are leaving both platforms, and especially how Microsoft has stopped making major posts (mostly Mojang), brings up the interesting thought that smaller more focused content forums like MSFN and other ones like Planet Minecraft and TenForums may actually grow in popularity once more, especially with Reddit now having upset their user base to no end.

Really unfortunate. Now a good amount of my google term + Reddit searches won't be as useful anymore. Really unfortunate though because you can't really tell if the news you are reading is even real or not. Guess everyones back to the smaller places again. The internet honestly, has never felt more emptier to me. I've stopped using Twitter, Reddit, Instagram and Snapchat. Probably for the best, though. I still communicate on Discord.

Truly hilarious.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Two sides to every coin.

Not everyone views what is happening to Reddit and Twitter as corporate self destruction but rather a course-correction, a righting of the ship.

To make an omellete, you have to break some eggs.

That's life in the USA, a gigantic pendulum swing of Edgar Allan Poe's "The Pit and the Pendulum", extreme policy swings and spending way too much time at both of the extremes and not enough time in the middle.

A very divisive country where fighters fight it out and never return to their corners when the bell rings - an all-out no-holds-barred duke-fest without the Daisy Dukes.

[Cocodile]

3 hours ago, sunryze said:

The internet honestly, has never felt more emptier to me.

Agree! And the timing they chose is obviously due to the known political reasons, which I'm not going to discuss, to quit spreading news to a wide range of people without accounts. I think they are compromised and need to be closely watched and investigated by the NSA.

 

3 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

the Pendulum

Looks like only one direction since 1992.

[Dixel]

One big, rich and aggressive country wasn't happy with the fast and constant news coverage of what it does to another smaller neighbouring country.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

19 minutes ago, Cocodile said:

Agree! And the timing they chose is obviously due to the known political reasons, which I'm not going to discuss, to quit spreading news to a wide range of people without accounts. I think they are compromised and need to be closely watched and investigated by the NSA.

 

Looks like only one direction since 1992.

More like the 60s in my view.  But that is a very lenghty discussion best not suited for MSFN.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

10 minutes ago, Dixel said:

One big, rich and aggressive country wasn't happy with the fast and constant news coverage of what it does to another smaller neighbouring country.

Not sure I follow.  I remember when Kuwait was invaded and how the WORLD reacted, 30-some nations across the Globe.

Crimea and Ukraine is not as cut-and-dried as Kuwait and global armed defense assistance.

Media news cycle or not, Ukraine is being supported by more than what Kuwait was - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

So I don't follow with the fast and constant news coverage comment - I would much prefer the support level being "on the ground" as opposed to being "on our television screens".

But again, a very lengthy discussion best not suited for MSFN.

[Cocodile]

3 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

But that is a very lenghty discussion best not suited for MSFN.

Agree, but you have no more socilal networks to talk about it freely, that's precisely what I'm talking about. Checkmate. It was exactly the same with Facebook, where they forced everyone to post cat pictures only, or be banned.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I'm afraid I do not have a frame of reference.  I've never had a Facebook account, never had a Twitter account, never had a Reddit account, never had an Instagram account.

NOT being on the platforms probably gives one a better view of them "from the outside".  They are biased and maybe one does not see that bias "from the inside".

I am not a Musk fan.  But I don't mind a few eggs getting broken in the path of reforming "free speech" - which should never be reduced to "getting your voice out" while squashing/banning/censoring all opposing views from seeing the light of day.

[Tripredacus]

The primary mistake of those large platforms was that they wanted to get everyone onto there, and didn't understand how people on the internet are. You can't have a platform for everyone, especially not everyone in the world. There are too many disagreements and too much funstering that exists to make it viable.

[sunryze]

The importance Reddit had though was that it was the most “real human” you could get at times. Rather than the paywalled blog posts and heavily biased news outlets, you could gather a bunch of information from other people out there if you were trying to make a decision for yourself. Not only that, it was a fairly decent place for focused communities as well. But their ignorance especially to the moderators who do their work for free and the visually disabled who need the third party tools to use the platform really shows they too fell to viewing their platform as a “social media” when it really is still better off as a forum network.

People abandoned Facebook quite fast because even the illiterate know it’s a privacy nightmare. Plus the whole image that your grandparents use it drove a lot of the younger generation away.

3 hours ago, Tripredacus said:

The primary mistake of those large platforms was that they wanted to get everyone onto there

This could also be said for issues countries encounter but that can get too political for here. The companies are quite interesting with how they can be so misled and completely out of the know from what their community wants. What ever happened to  customer feedback? 

Valve is an example of a company that manages well. The layout is nearly identical to an open source repository and everyone just does whatever they want. The company is private and isn’t made to make every penny possible. Their support team is fantastic on steam and their support of Linux is even better. This is an example of what happens when you don’t have $$$$ shoved into your eyes. You can actually do something great and not be greedy.

[AstroSkipper]

11 hours ago, Dixel said:

One big, rich and aggressive country wasn't happy with the fast and constant news coverage of what it does to another smaller neighbouring country.

You speak from my soul. 

[Dixel]

20 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

To make an omellete, you have to break some eggs.

And what are business consulting firms for? No one would risk such vast amounts of money without doing a proper research first.

[Dixel]

20 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

Not sure I follow.  I remember when Kuwait was invaded and how the WORLD reacted, 30-some nations across the Globe.

Crimea and Ukraine is not as cut-and-dried as Kuwait and global armed defense assistance.

Media news cycle or not, Ukraine is being supported by more than what Kuwait was - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

So I don't follow with the fast and constant news coverage comment - I would much prefer the support level being "on the ground" as opposed to being "on our television screens".

But again, a very lengthy discussion best not suited for MSFN.

Boots on the ground is not enough, one would always want to conquer hearts and minds. It was always the weakest point of all soviet strategies, but they learn and progress in that subject, hence the enormous amounts of money they invest in propaganda since 2000, I can say much more, but I shan't, since it's defo not for MSFN. On the other hand, it's 100% related to everything digital we now have. And what we have, all media has only one, left point of view. There's simply no right media anymore.

[Dixel]

12 hours ago, sunryze said:

This could also be said for issues countries encounter but that can get too political for here.

I agree, but when one just points out to the facts, no MSFN rule against it, no rule that would forbid to name the official investors/owners.

Like you wisely pointed out, we are the customers, and have the right to know who owns them.

"Russia funded Facebook, Twitter investments through Kushner investor."

"Institutions with close links to Kremlin":

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/russia-funded-facebook-twitter-investments-kushner-investor

"Facebook is taking that rumored $200 million investment from Digital Sky Technologies, a Russian investment group... giving Facebook a $10 billion valuation."

This one is from 2009, so $200 million/ $10 billion was a lot, lot more. 

https://techcrunch.com/2009/05/26/facebook-takes-that-200-million-investment-from-the-russians-at-a-10-billion-valuation/

[Saxon]

15 hours ago, sunryze said:

The importance Reddit had though was that it was the most “real human” you could get at times. Rather than the paywalled blog posts

Wait. Reddit paywalled, too? It's not for me, Maybe it's country specific? Reddit is still free to watch in my EU country.

Just a random topic I chose:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/comments/1mludb/restored_german_88_aa_flak_cannon_firing_960x636/