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9 minutes ago, RainyShadow said:

I thought you guys were joking and playing dumb :P

BTW this wasn't targeting you as you are known to read/post here (seldomly post, but you are). ;)

kind regards
soggi

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22 minutes ago, RainyShadow said:

I thought you guys were joking and playing dumb :P

Well, since i was catching up and had just read the last few pages, the related issue was fresh in my mind. 

And i don't shy away from clicking links to the PM forums...

I use roytam1s browsers all the time and they always work really well on my older computers 

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has anyone found a fix yet for ffmpeg on newmoon? for a long time the custom files from roytam1 have been what was needed to get it working but would it be possible to also preintegrate them into new moon? like with mypal? 

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38 minutes ago, soggi said:

BTW this wasn't targeting you

I know, i just thought it was funny.

No offence taken or intended. 

38 minutes ago, soggi said:

seldomly post, but you are

There are too few hours in a day, too often i can't find enough time for all the things i want to do... 

But i try to catch up once in a while.

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8 hours ago, soggi said:

I wouldn't say "frowned upon"...maybe uncommon is more precise!? Sometimes I also abbreviate in German, especially when I'm writing and not talking - but yes, it's more common in English.

At school, we (my generation) learnt to avoid any abbreviation. When we did it anyway, it eventually led to bad grades. It was even so extreme that not even the German abbreviation u.s.w. or etc. was allowed. So much for "frowned upon" versus "uncommon"! :) Just a little tale from my life! :P 
Furthermore, this is probably also a generational problem. The younger people, especially the youth, are linguistically contaminated by Anglicisms and many of them no longer really know the written German language, which inevitably leads to the increased use of abbreviations. albert.gif

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12 hours ago, VistaLover said:

:sneaky: ... The UXP forks (NM28/St52) offered here by roytam1 (infinite thanks BTW :wub:) are based 99.5% on the same application platform (UXP) that official Pale Moon (and Basilisk) is based on ...

Like "our" forum, "theirs" is also inhabited by numerous very knowledgeable members; because the platform is more-or-less common, if issue "A" affects PM, there's a strong likelihood same issue "A" affects NM28 and/or St52... If solution to issue "A" is offered inside the PM forums, then good chances are the same solution will work for NM28/St52, too... Case in point, the recent "discourse" breakage...

Fortunately, one can visit the official PM forums and read most content there without a mandatory registration - the site is safe, renders fine in "our" browsers and, frankly, is also a chest full of invaluable knowledge on "legacy" browsers, "legacy" extensions, etc.

When I, @UCyborg or some other person here includes a link to the PM forum, should be assumed by the frequenters here that it links to content that is also relevant to "our" browsers , or, at the most extreme, it links to general discussions with tangence/interest to "us", too ;) ...

IOW, you don't have to use Pale Moon browser to follow a suggested link to their forum - FWIW, I don't use PM myself, for the simple reason it's incompatible with my OS, however that fact doesn't stop me from visiting their forum for "consultation" on various issues/problems (mind you, the forum is less "hostile" now to read, with "you-know-who" banned from posting ;)) ...

I understand my opinion(s) might not resonate well with everybody here, "c'est la vie" :(, and, certainly, I don't want to sound unpleasant to some of you, but... :whistle:

You're right! The PM forum is a great source for research. I look up there very often to find solutions for new or old problems when they befall me. ordipoing.gif

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7 hours ago, soggi said:

Did you notice? Just write "PH" and some members who never wrote in this thread leave a message... :sneaky: :dubbio:

Not really. I myself didn't care about PH until @Cocodile replied with that Wikipedia link, although I hope you were kidding when you said this.

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13 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

Spoken for me only, New Moon and Serpent are the browsers I love to use as often as possible. :) It's fun and a respite from the Chrome world. And the extensions are unbeatable. :thumbup Long live UXP! :cheerleader:

Yeah, except there are too few of XUL extension devs left and some WebExtensions have surpassed their abandoned XUL variants in usability. I recently learned you can write BitTorrent client on top of the platform - MagDown. Another extension can do Gopher - OverbiteFF.

I recently noticed the old abandoned XUL extension Ant Video Downloader can no longer fetch videos off YouTube, I wonder if only a banal fix is required or something more extensive.


Somewhat unrelated, but work shift is coming to an end and I've been trialing AVX2 build of Pale Moon on my work computer today. While it's not Earth shattering, I have to say I'm really happy about it as the delays that are usual in operation of the browser are noticeably reduced.

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Makes me wonder what more could be done in regards to speed manually on the code level. I can't run it at home due to obsolete AMD Phenom II X4 920 CPU...

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11 hours ago, RainyShadow said:

There are too few hours in a day, too often i can't find enough time for all the things i want to do...

But i try to catch up once in a while.

Oh yes, same here... :rolleyes:
 

4 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

At school, we (my generation) learnt to avoid any abbreviation. When we did it anyway, it eventually led to bad grades. It was even so extreme that not even the German abbreviation u.s.w. or etc. was allowed. So much for "frowned upon" versus "uncommon"! :) Just a little tale from my life! :P 
Furthermore, this is probably also a generational problem. The younger people, especially the youth, are linguistically contaminated by Anglicisms and many of them no longer really know the written German language, which inevitably leads to the increased use of abbreviations. albert.gif

Maaahhh...school...we aren't at school here. I think at school it's the same in UK or USA. This wasn't extreme, it was (and is) correct to not use abbreviations in continuous text which will be handed to a teacher.

The debates about Anglicisms are pointless - where are the debates about Latinisms, Grecisms, Gallizisms or Hispanisms? Language of living people is a living, developing thing, else you ride a dead horse with dead people (Latin is the most famous example). The most people who are agitating against *isms (especially Anglicisms) are using *isms day by day themselves and name words/phrases *isms which aren't. Nevertheless it's important - I think - to cherish/cultivate a language (and dialect) - there are wonderful German (dialect) words and phrases which are seldomly used, for example.
 

4 hours ago, mina7601 said:

Not really. I myself didn't care about PH until @Cocodile replied with that Wikipedia link, although I hope you were kidding when you said this.

No kidding, there were at least two accs just reacting to "PH".

kind regards
soggi

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3 hours ago, soggi said:

The debates about Anglicisms are pointless - where are the debates about Latinisms, Grecisms, ...

Unfortunately, I have to vehemently disagree, especially from a linguistic point of view. Latin and Greek are languages on which German is inherently based, for almost 2000 years. Anglicisms in German, especially coming from America, are rather artificial, less than 100 years. This cannot be compared in the way you have done. However, further explanations would go beyond the scope here and are off-topic. And by the way, I have studied Latin. :)

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New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230211-3219d2d-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20230211-3219d2d-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20230211-3219d2d-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230211-d849524bd-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230211-d849524bd-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win32-git-20230211-d849524bd-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.6a1.win64-git-20230211-d849524bd-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2104 - Part 1: Implement "clip" attribute value for XUL string cropping (60c344a56)
- Issue #2104 - Part 2: Indicate if a label was cropped via the "_is_cropped" attribute (4c9665a4a)
- No issue - Accept also `video/vp8` as MIME type (1644bf94f)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt58l.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

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New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20230211-485bba73-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20230211-485bba73-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

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New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20230211-id-656ea98-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20230211-id-656ea98-ia-93af9a0-uxp-553e7438a-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

for UXP changes please see above.

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New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP!
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 http://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20230211-022f1a7ba-xpmod.7z
Win64 http://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20230211-022f1a7ba-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- import from UXP: Issue #2104 - Part 1: Implement "clip" attribute value for XUL string cropping (60c344a5) (729323e8d)
- import from UXP: Issue #2104 - Part 2: Indicate if a label was cropped via the "_is_cropped" attribute (4c9665a4) (07ab8c861)
- import from UXP: No issue - Accept also `video/vp8` as MIME type (1644bf94) (022f1a7ba)

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