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roytam1

My build of New Moon (temp. name) a.k.a. Pale Moon fork targetting XP

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3 hours ago, i430VX said:

I have suddenly found myself unable to click the CAPTCHA boxes on new moon as well.

it now happens here as well, looks like they wrote broken script again.

12:17:37.405 ReferenceError: MessageChannel is not defined 1 recaptcha__en.js:253:72

 

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3 hours ago, roytam1 said:

it now happens here as well, looks like they wrote broken script again.

XP or W7 do not affect the result to click.
The browsers that fail are those designed specifically for XP: New Moon and Mypal.
Pale Moon 27-28 W7, Chrome XP and FireFox XP are not affected.

8 hours ago, roytam1 said:

try starting browser in safe mode (Help -> Restart Browser in Safe mode) to test again

In Safe mode, the click does not work.

Here also the problem is followed and it is said that it fails on the Discogs website (a record and music collector Web site): https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/issues/27

Chrome 49.0.2623.112 + XP:

Screenshot - 24_08_2018 , 07_27_28.jpg

Another test: https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/demo

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reCaptcha:
Can't test myself, just spreading what others said, but 2 users with Goanna browsers lately reported that changing the IP 'fixed' it (by restarting router and browser and clearing cache etc.)

Here and one in KM-Forum:
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=19810

And it's known that reCaptcha insists to have ALL cookies and scripts allowed, not just for the same domain.
It's also reported more and more often that Google-sites and services try to fool XP-users to get them to update their system. On some sites it helped to simply fake the XP part in the useragent (NT5.x =XP, NT6.0=Vista, NT6.1=Win7)
Trap: stored site-exceptions may interfere (switch-pref is "general.useragent.site_specific_overrides"=true/false)
Possible also try faking this dedicated system pref: "general.oscpu.override" = "Windows NT 6.1" (or younger)

Edit:
also kinda interesting: google-scripts now even combine the useragent sniffing (if non-Chrome browser and if XP-system) with pretended IP-spam probs:
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19664

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reCaptcha:
anyone understands russian?

MachineTranslation sounds as if Opera12.18 works??
But was 'already' a week ago, and google changes their codes almost daily:
http://forum.geckoworld.ru/index.php/topic,241916.0.html

This topic is newer, checking all sorts of browsers, but auto-translation too garbled to understand:
http://forum.geckoworld.ru/index.php/topic,241921.0.html

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13 hours ago, roytam1 said:

what about installing a theme?

 

That would be installing a new different theme, not the old one. I just checked the themes available at Pale Moon´s site, and the old one seems not to be there.

One similar is Fox 2 The Moon, but it is not the same.

Is it possible to copy whichever files form an old version of New Moon to extract the old theme manually and install it over to the latest versions?

 

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8 hours ago, wyxchari said:

XP or W7 do not affect the result to click.
The browsers that fail are those designed specifically for XP: New Moon and Mypal.
Pale Moon 27-28 W7, Chrome XP and FireFox XP are not affected.

In Safe mode, the click does not work.

Another test: https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/demo

The click works fine in Roytam's Basilisk (Serpent) XP build, so it's curious that it doesn't work in New Moon 28.

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6 hours ago, siria said:

It's also reported more and more often that Google-sites and services try to fool XP-users to get them to update their system. On some sites it helped to simply fake the XP part in the useragent (NT5.x =XP, NT6.0=Vista, NT6.1=Win7)

That could be it! I have my user agent overridden to NT6.1 specifically to avoid issues like these.

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6 hours ago, Mathwiz said:

The click works fine in Roytam's Basilisk (Serpent) XP build, so it's curious that it doesn't work in New Moon 28.

I confirm what Basilisk 2018.08.17 + XP work with captcha https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/demo

I confirm what New Moon 28.1.0a1 + XP work with captcha (New Moon 27.9.1a1 no work) https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/demo

general.useragent.override.google.com

Mypal 27.9.4 = Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.4 Firefox/52.9 PaleMoon/27.9.4

New Moon 28.1.0a1 = Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/4.1 Firefox/52.9 PaleMoon/28.1.0a1

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Not work: New Moon SEE 27.8.0a1+ XP, New Moon 27.9.1a1 + XP, New Moon 27.9.1a1 + Windows 7, Mypal 27.9.4 + XP, K-Meleon 76.0 (20180818) + XP

Work: Pale Moon 28.0.0 + Windows 7, Pale Moon 27.9.4 + Windows 7, Chrome 49.0.2623.112 + XP, Firefox 52,9,0esr + XP, Basilisk 2018.08.17 + XP, PM28XP New Moon 28.1.0a1 + XP, Nightly FirFox 45.9.10 + XP

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wyxchari said:


With New Moon 27.9.1a1 + Windows 7, the click does not work.
With Pale Moon 27.9.4 + Windows 7, the click does work.



If you're really sure that PM27 works, regardless on which system,
it would be interesting to know your default user agent?
Then try if perhaps it helps in the non-working browsers in this global pref:
general.useragent.override =...
(and override for google.com the same or empty)

Guess a little collection of *working* UA strings could be helpful, along with the used browsers and systems... Edited by siria

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to fix recaptcha issue:

for PM27 users:
1. goto about:config, add new Boolean value named "dom.messageChannel.enabled" and set it "true".
2. reload the page that has recaptcha

next PM27 build will address it.

Edited by roytam1
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24 minutes ago, roytam1 said:

to fix recaptcha issue:

for PM27 users:
1. goto about:config, add new Boolean value named "dom.messageChannel.enabled" and set it "true".
2. reload the page that has recaptcha

next PM27 will address it.

YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://patrickhlauke.github.io/recaptcha/

Mypal 27.9.4 + XP works again. Verified.

In browsers that do not work, the same should be done: New Moon SEE 27.8.0a1+ XP, New Moon 27.9.1a1 + XP, New Moon 27.9.1a1 + Windows 7, Mypal 27.9.4 + XP, K-Meleon 76.0 (20180818) + XP

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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@ThomasW<--

This may NOT be relevant to you, but who knows.
A lot of WinXP OS users here with CPU and RAM limited hardware,
have had fairly good luck with these ROYTAM maintained Browsers:

https://o.rthost.cf/palemoon/
The August 18 version being currently the most recent version:
https://o.rthost.cf/palemoon/palemoon-28.1.0a1.win32-git-20180818-f36ad080c-xpmod.7z
Above is the 32bit version ; there is also a 64bit version listed
ROYTAM has referred to this as NM28XP, to avoid PM reference.

http://o.rthost.cf/basilisk/
For the BASILISK55 (not 52) Browser.
http://o.rthost.cf/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20180707-019ca9a53-xpmod.7z
This above is currently most current. Again, there is also listed a 64bit version.

The NM28XP seems more responsive than the BK55 Browser.
But the JAVASCRIPT engine and HTML rendering is better with BK55.

In any event, surely it does not hurt to post this. Hope this helps.

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The problem is not disqus. Password reset and comes to the mail in which we registered the disqus account. Five days ago I restored my login to disqus in serpent 55, palemoon 28 and new moon.

The problem is google. I often use the Google translator and the second week in google translations breaks remote fonts.

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I understand that captcha also sometimes spoils, although I have no problem with that

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We will not fix google.

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New Palemoon 27 Build!
* This build is beyond official 27.9.4 build.

32bit https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-27.9.1a1.win32-git-20180825-84be542d0-xpmod.7z
32bit SSE https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-27.9.1a1.win32-git-20180825-84be542d0-xpmod-sse.7z
32bit noSSE https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-27.9.1a1.win32-git-20180825-84be542d0-xpmod-ia32.7z

64bit https://o.rths.cf/palemoon/palemoon-27.9.1a1.win64-git-20180825-84be542d0-xpmod.7z

source repo: https://github.com/roytam1/palemoon27

repo changes since my last build:
- add and enable MessageChannel API pref, as required by recaptcha (8e1e41eed)
- ported bug1330667 (84be542d0)

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