dencorso Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 ... *and*... 5) Never forget to wear your own Velostat cap while browsing the web! 1
Dclem Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Finally made the move and downloaded RT's NEWMOON browser version 28.1.0a1.......WOW!!! Browser speed performance was extremely noticeable over FF 52.9.0 ESR. I also noticed much lower resource consumption and CPU cycles. The plug in container from Adobe consumed a lot of CPU cycles when functioning in FF. With the added HTML5 and MP4 support in this Newmoon brower, I have been extremely pleased viewing Youtube videos and FB pages on my Windows XP sp3 system. I do have a quick question......I downloaded, saved and extracted the z7 file to my programs folder and created both a start menu and desktop shortcut to the PALEMOON.EXE. Ran perfectly. I imported all my bookmarks from FF and made the necessary settings. When it comes time to update to a newer version, do I just repeat this process of download, save and extract to the current PALEMOON folder within my programs folder or is there a better way to update?
Flame. Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 21 hours ago, roytam1 said: so they merged ffmpeg-4.0.2: https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/UXP/commit/69d83c8fbe47b89d1d14f75ee99e638cbfb5dc31 should I keep 3.4.x or patch it for XP? Is this the reason of different youtube behaviour in 28.x versions? I'd rather have older version, IF that is the cause. Or until youtube decides to use something like av1 (or was it ported to v3 already? I don't remember) for all its videos without any other options. :) I am running PM on a pretty old hardware that is just barely able to run full-screen 480p video smoothly on 1024x768 and 360p videos on 1920x1080. Before that change the video streams were felt kinda at "lower priority" and all the player controls and audio were at "higher priority" i.e. with occasional framedrops, but with no audio stuttering ever, but now videos are felt kinda at "realtime priority" and are consuming all of the CPU, and player controls are simply not visible/accessible until after ~5-10 seconds of play or pausing manually. I have no idea what was changed and where, but I just hope it can be fixed by changing compile options, otherwise I'll have to stay with PM27... Also, could you please tell, were there any important changes in addons compatibility that I probably missed? Some of my addons (most notably - DTA2) are not working anymore with PM28.
Sampei.Nihira Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 10 hours ago, dencorso said: ... *and*... 5) Never forget to wear your own Velostat cap while browsing the web! If everyone thought of it as you, the development of software, extensions, and security systems would be stopped 20 years ago. Good thing it's not like that. 1
dencorso Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Sampei.Nihira said: Good thing it's not like that. Diversity is, and always will be, a good thing!
kitaro1 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 @roytam1 Basilisk 55 Extension h264ify disables webm and mse. Will h264ify replace the webm vp8 and mse & webm vp9 support? Is it better to remove h264ify?
roytam1 Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 2 hours ago, kitaro1 said: @roytam1 Basilisk 55 Extension h264ify disables webm and mse. Will h264ify replace the webm vp8 and mse & webm vp9 support? Is it better to remove h264ify? you don't need h264ify for basilisk. 1
roytam1 Posted October 4, 2018 Author Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Flame. said: Also, could you please tell, were there any important changes in addons compatibility that I probably missed? Some of my addons (most notably - DTA2) are not working anymore with PM28. it's known that DTA < 3.0b5 won't work in PM28. for others you may check their forum for details . Edited October 4, 2018 by roytam1
Flame. Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, roytam1 said: it's known that DTA < 3.0b5 won't work in PM28. for others you may check their forum for details . ah, thank you! people are reporting same addons, e.g. Redirector, not working, and there are some useful solutions it seems: Quote this is due to ecmascript standard changes. previously, top-level `const` and `let` were the same as `var`, and now they aren't. that is, just replace all `const` in "chrome/js/xpcom.js" with `var`, and you're there. but not everything is ok: Quote Redirector 3.0.4 no longer works for me, but neither does Redirector 2.9.3. After fixing and installing 2.9.3, the 2.9.3 configuration page works. But like Redirector 3.0.4, the actual redirects no longer work. Skip Redirect Version 1.0.7 may be the only choice, for removing redirects in Pale Moon 28 , at this point. so, some addons can be fixed more or less easily via debug console analyzing. 5 hours ago, Sampei.Nihira said: If everyone thought of it as you, the development of software, extensions, and security systems would be stopped 20 years ago. Good thing it's not like that. I'd say it is exactly like that... :D Well, OK, maybe for 10 years.
kitaro1 Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, roytam1 said: you don't need h264ify for basilisk. Newmoon, palemoon, mypal - after installing the h264ify extension - they also lost https://prnt.sc/l1phj6
Dibya Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 On 10/3/2018 at 9:46 AM, roytam1 said: so they merged ffmpeg-4.0.2: https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/UXP/commit/69d83c8fbe47b89d1d14f75ee99e638cbfb5dc31 should I keep 3.4.x or patch it for XP? I guess you can patch it for XP . .I don't know about decoding but in encoding speed improved in newer ffmpeg
Flame. Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 9 hours ago, Dibya said: .I don't know about decoding but in encoding speed improved in newer ffmpeg Absolutely true. But what's the point of having a faster encoder in a browser? :)
Mathwiz Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Probably need to benchmark decoding. If ffmpeg 4 is faster at that, then it'd be worth patching it for XP; but otherwise just leave it at the current version.
Dibya Posted October 5, 2018 Posted October 5, 2018 8 hours ago, Flame. said: Absolutely true. But what's the point of having a faster encoder in a browser? Faster encoding might not but faster decoding will surely effect all over video playback performance of video content in slower connection. If I am not wrong only dependency that needs patch is bcrypt. I compiled ffmpeg with vs2017 with XP targeted and copyed Bcrypt from onecoreapi to ffmpeg directory. All fixed .
Flame. Posted October 5, 2018 Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Dibya said: Faster encoding might not but faster decoding will surely effect all over video playback performance of video content in slower connection. I am not quite sure what faster decoding has to do with slower connection speed... But nevermind, my main concern is described a bit earlier, so if what Roytam said is true, then playback performance is actually somewhat worse now, at least in the GUI responsiveness part.
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