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Windows 11?

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Anyone, is Microsoft really not going to release any major version upgrades to Windows anymore, so we'll have no more Windows 11?

 

If the rumors of Windows 10 moving into a subscription plan are true, does this mean we'll just be getting incremental OS updates through Windows Update or similar moving forward?

 

I shudder if this ends up with the nightmare it was to install Windows 8.1 Update 1 on the majority of systems I had to deal with. Cryptic errors with update packages, uncertain resolution methods...

 

Anyways, leaving the nightmare scenario aside - is WinTen really the last major OS from Microsoft for the Desktop, then? Is this rumor really true?

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rumor is called rumor for a reason

all they said that there will be no "windows" anymore

 

but what does that tell you ?

 

1. maybe OS won't be called Windows, but same core (NT) will stay

2. maybe they will push .net based OS, as we didn't hear long time how project Singularity was going on

3. maybe they simply make some weird hybrid, a cloud OS ?

 

but OS for Business is their primary income of money, so don't think they will stop compiling OS-es

it would be equal to EA stop making games...

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it would be equal to EA stop making DLCs...

 

sorry, had to do it.

 

my job here is done.

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I am hoping they will make a business varient for power users and SMBs - which represents a bit and much disgruntled market currently switching to Apple or Linux if they are really annoyed. LTSB Win10 without the bull*** apps would be fine with security updates only and a price tag of $150 a copy. I am fine with that and they can call it Windows 11 if they wish.

Jonah

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There are two LTSB Win10 but I think both are out of reach for a regular user. There is the LTSB Enterprise, and then there is LTSB IoT Enterprise, which is the same really but is an Embedded SKU.

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When Marketing sets company direction, one has to suspend belief that anything means anything anymore.

-Noel

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Yeah Noel - I just do not understand the logic in limiting the market for LTSB Enterprise to however many seats minimum it is. I have been removing apps, installing Office 2010 usually, getting rid of the start menu, changing the default privacy for many SMBs buying new Win10 "Pro" machines who are aghast at the junk installed which is very difficult to get rid of. SMBs are the worst affected by the Win10 Pro business model and the move to subscription based MS Office. They and power users are the most lucrative sector for Microsoft and they have gone out of their way to alienate us.

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I know what you mean.  I've always bought the "Ultimate" most expensive editions.  I stopped spending money with Microsoft entirely and I can assure you they're not making money off data uploaded from me.

"Starve 'em out" seems to be the only possible strategy.

-Noel

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6 hours ago, jonah8208 said:

I just do not understand the logic in limiting the market for LTSB Enterprise to however many seats minimum it is

You are expected to get used to the things you are trying to get rid off. Even if you won't, your friends will. People knowing, what they expect form OS are minority. LTSB is  for embedded, and no one's expected to see OneDrive nag or ads tile on a ticket vending machine ;)

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Well I got a demo copy of LTSB which appears to be renewable every 6 months without restrictions - no doubt they will restrict it eventually. I got it from a client to evaluate his software and it is still running. It's on a workstation and running just fine thanks. It has no store, therefore no Modern Apps it is effectively a bare bones Windows 10 with no frills at all. Totally ideal and I would pay money for it - so would most of my clients and they can keep the metro apps and suchlike for consumers who want to play Candy Crush, shop at the MSFT store (anybody?) and keep all their personal and sensitive documents on one drive by default. I am considering buying a bulk license and selling individual licenses on with re-installed PCs. Have not thought it through really but I guess it is verbotten and or illegal. But then there are always legal loopholes one can exploit somewhere.

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On 2/18/2017 at 2:14 PM, Mcinwwl said:

 LTSB is  for embedded

There is LTSB for Embedded and also for companies.

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Microsoft will probably release a new version some time, maybe they are doing a rebranding much like with what they do to their web services or are moving to a more cloud-based OS in the future like ChromeOS has, more than likely the latter given Windows 10 itself.

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On 2/20/2017 at 7:47 AM, jonah8208 said:

keep all their personal and sensitive documents on one drive by default.

Safest place to keep them.  All my personals and sensitives are in the cloud as well as my coding projects.  I do NOT want them lost.  This is just common sense.

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Yes but the cloud gives access to your personals and sensitives to those that host them...

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