Win10-Hater

I would give this ten upvotes!!! I would give this ten upvotes!!!

50% instability and sluggishness, 25% horrendous unorganised mess of a UI, 10% telemetry, 15% bloat. Those are the things I hate about Win10. Downvote. How much ever you say about Win10 being "great", the truth remains unchanged: Windows 10's "Memory Compression" etc.etc. is just useless and it ate up all 4 out of 4 gigs of RAM on my secondary laptop, and 5 out of 8 gigs of RAM on my main laptop with an SSD when I had it installed (that too on idling, mind you), even with Windows Update disabled and with all bloat from MS Store removed. Substandard. That's what I can say about it in 1 word. Even on modestly powerful PC's such as a friend's PC with: an i5-4440 GTX 1070 a 1TB SSD (dunno which brand) 16GB DDR3-1600 MHz RAM Windows 10 Pro for Workstations runs totally unsatisfactorily. So, he's planning to upgrade to Windows 8.

Obviously, from the Mega folder

Downvote. Skype is necessary for me while meet-up is not, so I can't uninstall Skype only to get rid of meet-up. Calculator crashes on me while trying to switch b/w standard and scientific modes and also while doing unit conversions. In addition, O&O ShutUp broke many things when I used it. So, all in all, Windows 10 is the worst crap ever. Nothing has changed in approx. 5 years and tweaks that can be made to 8.x to make it fully usable on a desktop computer destroy Windows 10. @monkeylove Double downvote.

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Don't forget Windows 8.0, which is ignored more than 8.1 by most software developers.

No, I've installed a third-party dark theme but it's still on even after a relaunch, and this is on regular Chrome 87.0.4280.88 portable, not Chromium. I'll look into this later and see if this happens on Chromium.

Do you mean this? This happens on Opera (version 72.0.3815.400, pure x64) in my case. AdBlocker, even after enabling repeatedly, disables itself after relaunch. https://imgur.com/a/d8KJh08

My bad, apologies

The war against Windows 10 is going on and Vista is slowly winning (with kernelex in development) but with newer, more powerful hardware being developed, Vista compatible hardware (especially hardware from 2005-2008) is slowly getting obsolete. Still, I plan on using Vista until at least 2023. Vista holdouts: you can share your plans of using Vista in 2021 and beyond here.

Let's stop now!!! If you need a thread for discussion on Windows Vista in 2021, I can start a topic. Moderators, after I create the topic, please split the recent posts which are here into that topic.

Yes, Opera has built-in, but hidden adblocker.

"R6x models are basically T6x models with a different material for the casing, and they are a bit bulkier. The T60/R60 can take up to 4GB RAM, of which only ~3GB is usable. The T61/R61 can take up to 8GB usable RAM. T60 comes with Intel or ATI graphics. R61 comes with Intel or nVidia graphics. T61/R61 with nVidia graphics should be avoided like the devil avoids Holy Water. The T61/R61 CPU mentioned is way more powerful (and is Core 2 Duo) than the Core Duo T60/R60 CPU mentioned" I guess the Core Duo (or Core 1 Duo as I better like to call it) can be upgraded to a Core 2 Duo on a t60/r60?

It works with NVME SSDs also!! Tested on a friend's PC and it worked, though his PC ran Windows 8, not 8.1 to be specific. Still, it should work more or less the same on XP.

[OT] Thanks @XP-x64-Lover for helping me!!! I'm a Vista user who was struggling to find a free SSD trimming program and Kingston SSD Manager does not support Vista, as you may know (I use Vista on an a400 SSD). Smart Defrag was the solution to this problem of mine! Best regards, Win10-Hater (I'm on my phone now and there are no angular brackets on the Gboard, so had to use square brackets for the OT tags) [/OT]

I wanted to addon: Open Shell is just an ineffective bandaid on a broken windowpane. I know, Open Shell/Classic Shell is a great application, but it makes sense to use only on Windows 8.x which is easier to tweak than the god-awful Windows 10. @monkeylove, do you understand why and how I hate Windows 10 now?

No, not at all, which shows how there is more "ugh" than "oomph" in Windows 10 (hence my username matches with how I feel about Windows 10!!). I can't even switch b/w standard and scientific modes! I feel more or less the same!! My Dell Inspiron 15 3567 came with a bloated Windows 10 Home which, even after uninstalling OEM bloat, was slow! But, IMO, LTSC only makes Windows 10 installs half-usable. For example, on a 5400rpm HDD, Firefox used to take 10 seconds to open up on Win10 compared to almost instantly on 8.1 and 3-4 seconds on Win7. Word, Excel etc. took about a minute to open up completely on Windows 10 compared to almost 5-6 seconds on both Windows 7 and 8.1.

What do you mean? Vista still is receiving security patches till 2023. I use Vista only because Windows 10 is crap and Vista is awesome. If Windows 10 was good, then I'd be using it on all of my PC's. In fact, all the PC's in the house used to run Windows 10, but none of them still do. I have all of MS products that I need. MS lost a loyalist customer!!

Rightly said!!! You don't have to have the security updates unless you know what you're doing. They are only supplements to a smart Brain.exe. So, all legacy Windows versions are still usable at least for the next 3 years.

Thanks a lot!

1. You have Google Chrome and Opera (which, as you all know, are Chromium forks) as alternatives to Edge which work with the extended kernel , and also, Edge will work on Vista in some time as win32 is working on adding more functions to the extended kernel files which will allow Edge to function. 2. Discord: There's Ripcord which is a Discord client that works even with vanilla Vista. 3. Skype: I use Skype on my secondary Windows 8.1 computer now and I'm thinking of dualbooting Windows Vista with 8.0 Pro x64 on my main laptop to use Skype. But if Skype becomes open-source (I don't know whether it is), I will try working on backporting it to Windows 2000, XP and Vista. 4. Avast: Avast is still supporting Vista, though no new feature updates for Vista (or older) are being released, which, IMO, is not a big deal. 5. Office 2019: It's ugly, slow and bloated (as @WinClient5270 rightly said somewhere), or, in other words, crap. I still use Office 2010 on all my computers and when it becomes completely obsolete, I'll move on to Google Suite/Zoho Suite (both are online services) or LibreOffice. 6. ShareX: It works with .net FW 4.7.2 which can be installed on Vista through @WinFX's method. 7. Teamviewer: Why do you need it when you have AnyDesk, which supports XP through 10? Rest of the programs, I don't know about them.

Vista is actually good for activity online as its current market share is very low, thus making it a 95% unlikely target for internet hijacks/exploits. And with the extended kernel and the gift of @win32 to the Vista community, this state has gotten a lot better, as Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Waterfox etc.etc., which are major browsers now run on Vista just like how they run on 7. My dad actually uses my main Vista laptop for (carefully monitored) online banking approx. once every week. And I have created a separate standard account only for him and mom to use the computer on.

To minimise telemetry, use Windows 7 or 8.x. To avoid telemetry, use Windows Vista, XP or 2K (if all your software/hardware supports it), which have almost ZERO telemetry. To make Windows 10 look like 7 (or 8.x, Vista or XP), it's not 100% possible, and because of not being 100% possible, the UI, even with tweaks through Open Shell, 7++ TT, etc.etc. looks dirty and fragmented. So move to 8.x and tweak the UI or move to 7 to experience the beauty of the native UI or, even better, use Vista (whose Aero IMO is better than 7's) (then again, if the hardware and software you have/need supports it).

Yes, I do understand, but in my experience of using Windows 10 for around 3 years, it was horrible to me (and I ran Windows 10 on a 5400rpm HDD, which made it slow, therefore explaining its lack of optimisation for HDD's, as opposed to Windows 8.x, which is very fast even on a 5400rpm HDD). I know about dark themes, night mode etc.etc., but I have a Windows Vista Business installation on my main laptop that has been customised to include night mode (through f.lux). Also, I know that Open Shell exists to fix the horrible UI, but third party themes are also needed to correct the Metro UI abomination, and Windows 10 keeps breaking themes with every single update, so, thumbs down from me again.

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