NotHereToPlayGames

Agreed... But remember, this was brought to their attention in FEBRUARY !!! We *HAVE* been patient! VERY patient!

You have your "tactics". I have mine. I really don't think it MATTERS anymore. That IS my FACT-BASED OBJECTIVE VIEW.

I am kind of waiting for them to LOCK THIS THREAD. Still not give any ANSWER. But LOCK THIS THREAD and see "that" as the only answer they "owe" us.

Death to MSFN, that's my view nowadays. "Poking the ribs" isn't working. If anything, it's seemingly having the exact opposite effect. You can keep referencing @xper @xper @xper @xper @xper and @Tripredacus @Tripredacus @Tripredacus @Tripredacus @Tripredacus until you are "blue in the teeth". "No answer is an answer." THEY DO NOT GIVE A SH#T. This is a NON-ISSUE to them or we would have ALREADY heard from them. Maybe not @xper, but we would have heard from @Tripredacus. THEY DO NOT GIVE A SH#T SH#T SH#T SH#T SH#T.

I interpreted your comment as "glass half FULL". I'm saying it "glass half EMPTY" (which is actually not my normal World View).

I've been keeping this comment in my back pocket and saving it for later. But I'll go ahead and voice it now. I have a strong "hunch" that both Brave and Mojeek will show ZERO results in the near future (2-3 *months*, not "weeks"). That the Japanese Thai Hack is just taking longer to "propogate" through their "index". And when it does, THEY TOO will do the same exact thing that Google did (ie, "nanny-state consumer-protect de-indexing"). I can't prove that. ONLY *TIME* will prove (or disprove). Just a very strong "hunch".

When I was on XP x64, I only ran 32bit browsers for purposes of lower RAM consumption. But nowadays, with the improved methods of memory management, that doesn't work as well as it used to.

I'm not finding accurate info regarding the "19.0.0". That IS what OFFICIAL Chrome also shows on my Win10. But "per spec", anything over 13.0 is supposed to indicate Win11.

For what it's worth, Supermium showing a BITNESS of 32 is a DEAD GIVEAWAY. Chrome has not released a 32bit version since 2018 with v69. At least by default, the user had to jump through some major hoops to obtain a 32bit version.

From what you just showed, THEY DO NOT MATCH. Your old-school user agent says you are on a 64bit machine, your client hints says you are on a 32bit machine. ie, the BITNESS content. Do not go by the "x86" listed in "arch", that is SUPPOSED to be "x86" even on 64bit machines, it says it's in Intel or AMD, it will say "arm" if not on Intel or AMD.

That's because many users (myself included) *PREFER* to paste images into our replies *INSTEAD OF* having them "hosted" on third-party websites. But when we RUN OUT OF ROOM, we have to DELETE them so that we can PASTE into other replies. I will *ALWAYS* do it that way, I will not jump through the hoops of having them "hosted" on third-party websites. (edit: not all forums have such a tiny space, I have other forums with NO LIMIT AT ALL, just keep pasting and they reside there "forever") "To each their own", of course. There are pros and cons to both. Pasting into a reply is *EASY* but also *not* forever. "Hosting" the image is "forever" but NOT ALL COUNTRIES will be able to view them, depending on host site.

True, I do not know if client hints are the real culprit. I only know that UA is *not*, that CH is *not*, and that both combined are *not*. FALSE, I do not now, nor have I ever, relied on "research" of any kind from ANY member herein that begins with a *D*. That is your obcession, not mine!

Your guess is as good as anyone's. Where we are at now, I'm kind of "expecting" a 404 when visiting MSFN. I'm kind of disappointed that it hasn't happened yet. Sarcastic. But not really.

That's actually reassuring. The over-time count is more important than a "real-time" count. I am suprised that it isn't "real-time". But what that does tell us is that all of our *FAKE* MEMBERS with a "0 count" for SIX MONTHS are indeed *** FAKE *** accounts - *axe 'em all !!! without prejudice*

But hey, it does show that this thread is already on page 5.

Wow! 281 MB for an Android casino/mahjong app!?

Regarding Google's Core Update, I do personally think that Google should have had some sort of "advance notice" to forum owners, some form of "Warning: You are about to be de-indexed because of your LACK OF PATCHING SECURITY HOLES and your web site's SIX MONTHS AND COUNTING quantities of the "Japanese/Thai Keyword Hack". But: 1) is that really fair, would Google have had to send a notice to ONE web site or one MILLION web sites?, and 2) IT WOULD NOT HAVE MADE ONE D@MN BIT OF DIFFERENCE, our owner (in my opinion) would have done NOTHING differently... *NOTHING* !!!

And I *support* that! But no, I do *not* support that. But I really don't think that's what this COMPLEX issue can be MINIMIZED to. In a black and white world, there are sh#tloads of "gray" (or "grey", if you prefer).

My conclusion differs slightly: 1) Google CARES about their "reputation" being visually impaired by "spam results" 2) Google CARES about their consumer by NOT feeding them "spam results" 3) MSFN does NOT CARE... Period... "No answer IS an answer." The Google Bot is doing what EVERY FORUM OWNER *KNOWS* that it IS DESIGNED TO DO, it hasn't done anything here "in secret". LET THAT HAMMER STRIKE, in my not-so-humble-opinion. FORCE the OWNER to spend donations on the SERVER instead of "home repairs" or "groceries". Just paraphrasing, of course.

Although, having said that, that is one of my biggest gripes with Cloudflare. I've NEVER had an ONLINE BANK ACCESS request ANY form of "captcha". And only ONE of my billpay sites. ONE. Biggest pain in the arse website I've ever had to historically deal with.

Agreed. But I submit this - go to your BANK'S website. I guarantee they say that the minimum is the LATEST and/or the CURRENT. I just did that for my current bank and my previous two banks, all three use the exact word of THE LATEST as being their "minimum". Granted, I would do that to if I was the department creating those online documents. By saying THE LATEST, you NEVER have to update that document!

Agreed. Took three years of Latin in High School. I'm going to contact my teacher and tell her it is *NOT* a "dead language", lol.

AGREED !!! KEEP IT UP !!! 1) members get to know Astro the "worker bee" 2) members get to witness the total lack of "management" by our OWNER (seriously, request a REFUND if you've ever "donated"!) Granted, maybe there is a third: 3) "Sorry guys, I've been held up in the hospital, I am back now and I will fix this, this is a SERIOUS matter and I take FULL RESPONSIBILITY in letting you all down."

While we all "hate" Cloudflare, one does have to admit that they are *GREAT* at "what they do", they really are! Those types of suggestions to prevent challenge issues always have something like this: And if you look into "supported by Turnstile" documents, you will find this: That's it, only TWO previous major versions. TWO !!! So yeah, Supermium is EXTREMELY outdated if we want to go by those "requirements".

I have seen that and many like that. No help in my case. My city utilities billbay has more locks than FORT KNOX (kind of a USA slang phrase). All I can really assume at this stage is that certain servers across the country receive Cloudflare "updates" BEFORE other servers. The infinite loops that happen on my city utilities billpay EVENTUALLY occur on Google Search also, but usually about THREE WEEKS later.