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Disable QUIC in chrome://flags/
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If you have this enabled, I would strongly encourage DISABLING it! "To each their own", of course. Feel free to read up on it, "secure" DNS is basically a HOAX!
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Are you using "so-called" Secure DNS, aka DNS over HTTPS, aka DoH? If so, "I advise against" but others are just as likely to advocate the contrary.
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The screencap indicates he is using ProxHTTPSProxy. That "intervenes" with certificate chain so the issue could be ProxHTTPSProxy. But I would assume that ProxHTTPSProxy is being used for "all browsers" and not just Supermium.
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You'd have to post those types of questions here -- https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/discussions Unless Supermium becomes truly "ungoogled", I basically have no use for it. I remain optimistic towards its development. Though I do wish that an older version of Chrome was "matured" *before* the project started "chasing" more recent versions.
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I cannot replicate your errors. Supermium v124 and 360Chrome both show secure connection for ScienceDaily. All I can add is that I have never, and I really do mean *NEVER* "updated my root certificates". There are several threads here at MSFN that are dedicated to "updating root certificates". I HAVE NEVER DONE ANY OF THEM! My XP root certificates are AS MICROSOFT INTENDED THEM, I have not "intervened" in any way, shape, or form and my root certificates WORK AS INTENDED. I can only state the FACTS as they pertain to my XP - I have never manually updated my root certificates and I cannot replicate your certificate authority errors. Unsure how relevant that FACT is, but it is a fact! My root certificates are as OFFICIAL XP intends them to be. I do not even use/install POSReady2009. Again, unsure if relevant, just a FACT as it pertains to my XP.
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Can you share the web site URL?
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What does Certificate Signature Algorithm say for SHA? I'd have to review, but I don't think XP can do anything higher than SHA-256.
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Click your padlock and view the Details tab of the certificate. Scroll down to Key ALGORITHM and click. View the Field Value and my guess is that you are seeing ELLIPTIC CURVE for each and every web site that shows this certificate authority error on WinXP.
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I agree, works for me. Bear in mind that these "other forks" are even further behind as far as "zero-day". Official Firefox may discover a zero-day on Monday and have it patched by Wednesday (that 3-day turn may be too optimistic!), but do any of us really think that the forks are patched as quickly? I do not base by protection level on the assumption that a zero-day will be fixed "quickly". My protective umbrella *WILL* protect me from that zero-day for WEEKS, if not MONTHS - as I suspect YOURS will also.
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That's the version/source I tried also. Will not launch in a Win10 x64 VM. Did not track down "why". May attempt again later in the week. Show us a screencap of its about:networking page. That will reveal any embedded telemetry. My hunch is that if Waterfox Classic has embedded telemetry, than so does the non-classic version!
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I personally hate hate hate this "thought pattern". Sorry, I just hate it! The very definition of 0-day is all about REACTION TIME. If your surfing habits land on pages that could catch a 0-day and you don't already have other DEFENSES, THEN YOU ARE AT RISK OF CATCHING IT BEFORE FIREFOX RELEASES THE PATCH THAT YOU FALSELY SEE AS YOUR SAVING GRACE! Firefox does not fix a 0-day within SECONDS of its discovery !!! It takes DAYS at the bare minimum! How many web sites did you visit in the span of those **DAYS**?
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I could not get Waterfox to launch. I could get Waterfox Classic to launch and I'm NOT liking what I see there. Regarding 0-day - DOES NOT CONCERN ME! "Hype and Propaganda" in my book. Blacklisting javascript and only whitelisting on a dozen cites you visit regularly TYPICALLY IS ENOUGH TO PREVENT ANY-AND-ALL ZERO-DAY BS!
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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
NotHereToPlayGames replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
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And don't forget the about:networking link (somebody posted that in this thread, forget who, that's a new and very useful tool to keep in your quiver).
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These first-launch DNS hits look like TELEMETRY to me! But sure, it's an improvement to most Firefox/Mozilla Forks. I would stick with IceCat *if* I was forced to use a Mozilla Fork. Thankfully, I'm not forced to use them. To each their own, of course. And the so-called "portable" version added an entry to my start menu, entries to my registry, and what appears to be a UNIQUE ID FOLDER inside ProgramData. Which is why I only try inside a fresh/clean VM. I can now delete this VM as its cleanliness has been compromised.
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For reference, my tweaked and debloated Win7 == 22 processes, 254 MB RAM... I no longer remember what the process count and RAM consumption was before tweaking it. This is the VM test-version for a Toshiba Satellite laptop that died earlier this year. All of my OSes are tested on VMs before being applied to real hardware. This VM hasn't been used since 2017, I only fired it up for a reference screencap as this laptop is long gone.
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You're getting there. How far you want to improve is totally up to you. I'm just seeing that this thread was started by stating Win10 is too much for the computer that has been acquired and that Win7 was cited as a better choice. While that is very likely entirely true for "default install" Win7 versus "default install" Win10, I have tweaked and debloated Win7 also and from my experience, it was a waste of time compared to a tweaked and debloated Win10.
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How does your windows 10 look?
NotHereToPlayGames replied to kosamja's topic in Windows Desktops Screenshots
I always get a kick out of seeing that "green triangle" in your systray. -
I think this has taken the previous discussion slightly out of context. Sure, I'll grant you that some folks (not me!) rely heavily on "getting updates" (be it fully automatic or manual) - I see that itself as FEAR-MONGERING, some form of "update or else" side of the same coin! But it seems to me that the previous discussion was more to do with a fully functioning, fast and efficient Windows 10. And not "telemetry" in and of itself. The XP folks probably remember the popularity of this and perhaps even carried it over to their 10/11 via this, but make no mistake, removing "spy" features of our OS-of-choice is something most of us have been doing for DECADES.
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How does your windows 10 look?
NotHereToPlayGames replied to kosamja's topic in Windows Desktops Screenshots
Same here, I put My Computer in the corner, recycle bin beneath it, then the *REAL* IE icon beneath it (not a "shortcut", the *REAL* IE icon!). I don't have IE "installed" on my computers (my computers are intentionally configured WITHOUT any "default web browser"), but the *REAL* IE icon has a context menu for Internet Properties that I access on occasion. As for Shift-Delete - yes, that is an option, but I am ambidextrous and want to do everything with the MOUSE as much as possible. Sure, it may only be 3 times out of 10, but why drop the soldering iron, or oscilliscope probe, or cordless screwdriver just so that I can have one hand on the mouse and another on the keyboard? 9 times out of 10, I delete from context menus and not the keyboard. Unless I'm typing, I have no use for the keyboard. -
That's not enough. Especially for 10 and 11. If you want an OS without telemetry, you MUST remove "defender" , "smartscreen", "security center", and WINDOWS UPDATE. If you cannot bring yourself to using an OS that doesn't "update itself", then you (collective pronoun!) are "talking from both sides of your mouth" regarding TELEMETRY. I think what MANY of us forget is that it took us DECADES to get XP (just an example) to "behave" the way we wanted it to. But then we "expect" 10 (or 11) to compete with those "decades of fixes" we did with XP. I cite XP from personal experience. XP had bloat. XP was spyware! Look up the history of "Alexa" and the way that XP [SP2+] handled IE downloads and Outlook Express attachments! We just figured out how to remove the bloat and spyware.
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Like everything else that has embedded spyware (ie, Firefox, Chrome, Windows 98, ME, 2000, XP, 7, Vista, 8, 8.1, 10, 11, 360Chrome, you name it!), there are ways to remove it! I was still running XP all the way through THIS YEAR. It was only just months ago that I finally ditched XP and started using a heavily tweaked and customized bloat-free spyware-free Win10. It took many many months of trial-and-error FREEBIE TOOL ALREADY MENTIONED to get Win10 to my liking.
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How does your windows 10 look?
NotHereToPlayGames replied to kosamja's topic in Windows Desktops Screenshots
I do use my recycle bin "all the time". It's actually one of my Windows' PET PEEVES. When I delete something, I shouldn't have to delete it TWICE - once to "delete", the second time to remove from the recycle bin. My recycle bin is always always always EMPTY. Not because I don't delete things, but because I always have to delete things TWICE. THREE times if I'm talking an Outlook email - once to move to deleted items, second time to move to company's email recycle bin, third time to remove from there. When I delete something, I WANT IT DELETED, lol. -
No it F'in isn't! (sorry, no other way to say it, lol) Was a very lengthy and tedious process of trial-and-error to get it here, that's for sure. I have provided you with the freebie tool to get you there also. Until you (collective pronoun, not any one person) have demonstrated that you have taken that FIRST STEP (ie, proof that you have used that tool!), then I really cannot show you what you are doing WRONG if your Win10 is using 900 MB. Show me the .ini file of the freebie tool and I'll show you why you're still so HIGH for Win10 RAM at twice where mine is.