NotHereToPlayGames

The other "test" is to monitor your cookies. Open your browser but never visit any web site. Clear your cache and again, never visit any web site. Keep that browser open for several hours, if not DAYS, and again, never visit any web site. Just let the web browser sit idle on a computer you are not using. May have to exit and relaunch the browser every couple of days or so, do not recall. These are the types of tests I performed before ever claiming my releases to be "ungoogled". My "ungoogled" versions of 360Chrome can be launched 1000s of times over the course of an entire MONTH and so long as you do not visit any web sites, then NOTHING TALKS TO GOOGLE. I am HUGE into the belief that a web browser should NEVER make ANY network traffic just to launch and close 1000s of times over a month. I've personally only witnessed ONE mozilla fork meet this critera, but I forget the name of it offhand. This HOSTED APP *will* bring in a GOOGLE COOKIE. But it might take one hour or it might take one week.

Just be cautious is all I'm saying. That "crap" just LISTED as HOSTED APP DATA is a PERMANENT LINE OF COMMUNICATION between your browser and Google! Monitor your DNS traffic dilegently. That "crap" is SNEAKY about how OFTEN that line of communication is OPENED/USED. Do not be fooled into thinking there is no communication just because your log didn't show any "at launch", "at exit", or "once per hour". I know "where" it is located in 360Chrome [I disable in "ungoogled" but keep in "regular"], but no, I do not know (nor care) where it is located in Supermium and Thorium. Their developers both seem to claim they are incorporating "ungoogled" code but they keep missing this most OBVIOUS permanent line of communication. It's a 15-second "test" to see for one's self if this HOSTED APP DATA is present or not. If it is present, then you are communicating with Google! If it is NOT present, then you have a TRULY *UNGOOGLED* web browser. It's up to every user to decide for themself if that is "important" or not.

No "link" required. I'm at work so I can only show via screencap from OFFICIAL Chrome v122 (I cannot run Ungoogled, Thorium, or Supermium here at work). The "test" for TRULY *UNGOOGLED* is to CLEAR YOUR CACHE !!! And if you see THIS *after* clearing your cache, THEN YOU ARE NOT "UNGOOGLED".

Also, I should add, I do NOT support DISABLING client hints !!! I prefer, and recommend to all, to SPOOF THEM INSTEAD. Do not DISABLE them, but SPOOF them to the most recent version of CHROME to best blend in with the crowd. You SHOOT YOURSELF in the "privacy-conscious foot" to DISABLE them. Been over this 100 times. Not sure why it's not SINKING IN to some of you folks, lol.

I've discussed that elsewhere on the forum. Because my bank account only works in v122, v123, and v124. I cannot use v121 and older. I cannot use v125 and newer. I never could figure out exactly why these three, and ONLY these three, work for my bank account. Password submission fails on EVERYTHING outside of these THREE versions. I speak strictly for UNGOOGLED ONLY. I cannot (and will not) use any Chrome Fork that is not 100% UNGOOGLED. Supermium and Thorium both FAIL a 100% UNGOOGLED test. I'm still OPTIMISTIC that hopefully THORIUM will eventually become 100% UNGOOGLED. I am NOT as optimistic on Supermium (the developer himself has stated that some Google features will not be removed). All I can do is sit back and watch and cross my fingers that by the time my bank no longer works with v122 (at which point I can realistically assume that v123 and v124 will also NO LONGER work) that THORIUM v150 (or wherever we are at at that time) WILL work. If not, then I will have to do my own browser again. Like I had to with 360Chrome when faced with that the last time around.

Nor should they, in my honest opinion. How many of these regular mortal "resist change", of any kind? How many of these regular mortal are fine with "change" - but resist any form of "lack of control" in how that "change" unfolds? ie, elevated sense of self-worth? How many of these regular mortal are fine with "change" - but despise the "transition" phase? Et cetera... Whether we like to "witness" all of these "transitions", one must admit that if we let the "regular mortal" have TOO MUCH SAY, then we'd all be running Win98SE and driving cars without seat belts. (Which I'm okay with, I own two cars that DO NOT HAVE SEAT BELTS and it's actually ILLEGAL [in my state of the US] for "the law" to force me to install them in a car that did not come with them from the factory!)

Fair enough. Chromium is not exclusively coded by Google employees. But yes, "most" developers are Google employees. I cannot find if that is 51% of developers work for Google. Or if it is 99% of developers work for Google. I admit that I've always ASSUMED it to be closer to the 51% side of the spectrum. But I have no data to back up that assumption. Nor any data to suggest 99%.

Technically not true. What most people don't realize is that Chrome (ie, "Google") is not "first". Chrome is based from Chromium, so these UI changes were implemented by CHROMIUM (open-source project NOT affiliated wit Google), then Google just pushed them to the public. More often than not, the CHROMIUM developers get enough "feedback" and then REVERT these types of changes by adding flags that Chrome (ie, "Google") does not add. There would be no Chrome if Chromium did not exist first. But yeah, "semantics".

Is there at least a "suspend network activity" setting, like uBO (and forks of uBO)?

This is the part that caught my eye - "More WebUI stuff is reverted to its pre-Chrome 2023 appearance." I have not tested the "Th24/M128" version yet. I have been "stuck" at Chromium v122 out of immense dislike over the changes upstream made with the UI that most forkers just followed the Lead Lemming.

Total YUCK on the newest Sleipnir! Been away from it for several years. Wow! Total YUCK.

GreenBrowser, Sleipnir, and SlimBrowser used to all be very good to me. I actually still use GreenBrowser, but more for debug purposes when tracking down web site issues spanning different browser engines.

Depends on much experience you have with nLite. Once you get a validated process working, it will become hours instead of days. The first "several" trial-and-error iterations will be days, agreed. That's why you always always always test in a VM first.

Generally speaking, NO, something removed by nLite requires re-doing the nLite'd media and reinstalling. It's not impossible to restore. But you'll spend 4 days trying to figure out "how" when it only takes 3 to 5 hours to archive everything, re-do the nLite'd media, and reinstall. As a gigantic fan of nLite'd, vLite'd, NTLite'd, and WinReducerEX'd installations, Rule #1 is this - always test in a VM.

I never liked having the flags, but removing them now may be pointless, we all already know where the frequent visitors are from. There are some users here that don't have flags even when the flag "feature" is working. I think it's just because they're from a country not included in the "list of flags".

You may find that this will not "play well" with any web site that has dropdown-menu navigation sections.

Now you're getting the hang of it! I toggle CSS via a Proxomitron "menu" added to every website. Toggling CSS was also a "button" I added to my GreenBrowser back when GreenBrowser was my default. If you want to experiment with other methods, and as I was tracking down the "real source" for my versions of animation-killers, I noticed that ebay.de is specifically cited in this Greasy Fork script (but as an EXCLUDE which would need REMOVED).

There are animations here at MSFN? Never seen any, that I recall. Aside from the .png emoji's, which my Proxomitron config allows to animate for three cycles (at least, that's my default for all gif's, would have to look at the config or download one of the emoji .png's to research further).

Nope! It's a very VERY common set of CSS code in the Proxomitron World. Any Proxomitron-user would be able to provide that animation-killer code, been a "staple" for DECADES. My Proxomitron version also disables "transforms" and "transitions" in addition to "animations". I know that I've seen "versions" of that code over at Greasy Fork also.

I actually PREFER the posts HERE, to be honest. Mainly because of "visitation frequency" and a fast-and-easy "activity" versus "unread" view of everything on one page.

I am now a github member as well. Though I have "notification" turned off completely and only "follow" various github projects.

I guess I have to admit total ignorance when it comes to "games". What is a "game"? Any 20yr computer should be able to play solitaire, sudoku, wordle, minesweeper, tetris, pac-man, frogger, donkey kong, dig dug, centipede, space invaders - you old folks remember 'em all! But come on! The death of the PC as far as just a core OS probably died the day "they" decided that "game consoles" and "desktop pcs" should both be able to splatter blood in hi-def realism when the gun-toting gangsta shoots down the pimp or ho on the sidewalk. Yeah, that shows my age too, I don't technically know if some of these shoot-'em-up blood-splatter-everywhere "games" are shooting at pimps and hos or not. I'm not even sure if it's hos or hoes. I understood the days of Pac-Man and Frogger. I stopped "understanding" in the days of Mario Brothers and Sonic. Hi-def realism of a bullet shattering bone or an axe beheading a monster, nope, zero understanding whatsoever. "To each their own", of course. I remember when Nintendo came out, when Playstation came out, when Sega came out, when XBox came out. And while not my scene, I applauded their popularity! For one, I remember the days when COMPUTER PERFORMANCE had to COMPETE with these GAMING CONSOLES. So computer performance BENEFITED big time! I don't know what happened that COMPUTERS and GAMING CONSOLES no longer tend to COMPETE but rather the "gamer" resorts to a COMPUTER to play his/her games instead of a GAMING CONSOLE.

Though perhaps that is me showing my age, lol. Because this "misspelling" isn't "new", it's been around for over TWENTY YEARS.

Good point. I gue$$ I ju$t get a little "hyper$en$itive" when there are a "hundred" folk$ here at M$FN that will alway$ use $'s instead of S's for Microsoft. It'$ a PET PEEVE of mine. Either boycott Microsoft and take a $tand or u$e Microsoft's product$, but trying to do both "loo$e$ all $treet ¢red". My two ¢ ¢ ...

To each their own. That's why Microsoft has a $3.2 trillion market cap and Apple has a $3.4 trillion market cap. Because people LOVE to bla$t B$ by calling Microsoft Micro$oft, yet they keep buying and buying and buying and upgrading and upgrading and upgrading. Please do not let me see you use a derogatory $ in Microsoft's name if you are one of the folks that upgrade all because of "EOL". You'd have no $treet ¢red at that point.