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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Same, on a fresh profile. Also, New Moon and Serpent are nothing without Pale Moon and Basilisk. In any case, the original interface along with some scripts particularly tailored towards it (returning dislike count, bypassing age restriction without having to sign in) work, the rest are first world problems not worth spending too much of my energy on. -
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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
My CPU actually works less decoding VP9 than it does decoding H.264 in UXP browsers. Edit: Though I'm noticing some weirdness lately, videos just getting stuck at certain time, then you reload the page and the time it gets stuck changes. Wish Project VORAPIS actually worked right on UXP, it doesn't here, video player resets after some time and then all higher resolutions disappear. The search box is broken as well, doesn't show suggestions. Bloody pointless if you still need ChromeZilla in the end. -
It's non-gaming stuff too, that's why I mentioned 2D specifically.
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I mentioned that client here. But it's not self-contained and runs code from the remote server, which author can replace anytime without your knowledge. Some take it as a red flag.
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Linux can be a valid option. You can run modern browsers out of the box and even Widevine works these days (for those that can't live without Netflix and the like). I don't have as much problem with newer Windows as number of people here have. And I'm spoiled by the smallest details, from mouse feel to having 7-Zip's right-click context menu, though sometimes I still toy with Linux or use it for specific tasks. While I/O performance seems great on Linux, the underperforming of graphics really bugs me. I had Radeon 4890 (it was a high-end card of the time) and it sucked, proprietary fglrx was an absolute atrocity, open-source drivers were slow even for the ancient Source engine. NVIDIA is a bit better, but 2D performance still isn't quite where it should be. And I can tolerate some slowness (I use Pale Moon as main web browser), but Linux is too much for me. In practice, Linux seems to work really well as long as you don't talk about Linux desktop specifically.
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I'm not sure about the soundness of Speedometer's methodology, that's all. First result that comes for cross-platform benchmark is Geekbench. The download page doesn't mention Linux version for ARM processors, but this page says it was used for benchmarking, must be still a preview version. I see Reddit Enhancement Suite wasn't mentioned yet, must have for Reddit users (old.reddit.com of course). It can be found in Classic Add-ons Archive, Reddit says version 5.4.3 works with Pale Moon. The next version 5.6.0 craps out. Still rather old (because who gives a s*** about supporting obscure browser), but the basics still work.
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It's not that bothersome, just got me thinking. One I time I read about the guy complaining about Pale Moon being slow on some Core i7 running at 4 GHz. Of course most of us take it as just how things are with the browser architecture. I did notice faster computers don't improve things much, never tried on particularly expensive ones though. I have the impression browser feels about the same as long as the slowest computer you tried isn't a total pile of poo. I tried Pale Moon on Raspberry Pi 5 a while ago, it could be that CPU is actually faster in some ways than the rusty Phenom II in my desktop. I'd need some sort of decent cross-platform benchmark to prove it, scores in Speedometer are the best among machines I have, but I really don't trust Speedometer. Oh, I didn't even run Speedometer on Pale Moon on Raspberry, just Vivaldi and Firefox. Difference with Pale Moon might be in single digit. In either case, launching from SD card, launching from RAM disk, none do anything for browser startup time with my combination of extensions. Newer computer would certainly help with consistently holding higher frame rates in games!
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Playing with Firefox 52.9 a bit, there are circumstances where those icons don't cause as prominent delay, but most of the time they do. I haven't got to any conclusion, so I leave it at that. Eye candy just feels good psychologically. It behaved that way since forever, though only realized recently it's connected to those icons.
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Crickets as usual. How come Firefox users can still get menus with icons without slowdown? If I buy computer for couple thousand euros, will it help??
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I don't get captcha on Thorium 117 and Edge 94 on Win10, same with Chromium 117 on Android 7.1.2. Pale Moon 33.3.0 gets captcha (using native user agent). No connection issues on either.
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I see it redirects to a really long link for invoking captcha when visiting yandex.com on older Supermium 124 and gives connection refused. But the captcha shows after allowing JavaScript on yandex.com in uBO and solving captcha allows access. At least it seemed that way on first try, it looked like you don't get captcha page with message about enabling JavaScript at all if not already enabled, but it's not necessarily the case[*] and just rather random after restarting the browser and trying few more times, you can get connection refused, closed, sometimes even timeout then at some point after refreshing few times it may start working again. Was going off incognito mode so there should be no cookies leftovers after restarting. [*]Right, JavaScript toggle shouldn't even play the part until you successfully receive HTML from the server and JS file(s) it references.
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It'll probably work if you extract d3dx_28.dll from any DX redist dated late 2005 or newer and put it in 3DMark's folder, the CAB inside redist .exe is called Dec2005_d3dx9_28_x86.cab. Just compared the list of CABs, dxnt.cab, BDANT.cab and BDAXP.cab were omitted in June 2010 version. dxnt looks like whole base DX install from DDraw to D3D9, guess it's meant for very old Windows versions. BDA stuff is rather obscure to me, probably related to Broadcast Driver Architecture. Maybe because I never dealt with TV tuners and related hardware. The rest should be every DLL released between 2005 and 2010. If anyone really feels like comparing...http://falconfly.3dfx.pl/directx.htm Ran 3DMark06 today (1920x1080, 4xAA, 16xAF, same PC as here...): I noticed it can be launched with -nosysteminfo command-line parameter, then it skips invoking SystemInfo to collect system information.
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CuteButtons and its main stylesheet actually seems to slow down GUI response in all recent browsers still supporting XUL extensions, at least judging by looking at SeaMoney and Waterfox Classic. There also appears to be an issue switching icon style, seems browser caches the image with icons and something would have to be added to invalidate cache.
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Is it worth it? I mean while I trust the guy and used his VCRedist repack, I'd like to know the advantages of his DX9 repack. VCRedist repack is nice as it bundles all newer redists and even old ones that were usually included with applications and MS never made installers for system-wide installation. I seem to recall there was some specific difference between Feb. 2010 and Jun. 2010 DX9 redist, but don't recall what it was. Something about Jun. 2010 omitting something, but what exactly? That and higher power consumption. Ryzens today are much better.
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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Yes, I loaded Icons.Normal.css alone through userChrome.css without extension. Minimizing delay using taskbar button is just an odd quirk or side effect, the CSS applied slows down the GUI response in general. Didn't realize my Pale Moon was slower than the norm because of that. It's also apparent with tab switching. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Icons.Normal.css is enough to cause slowdown. Well it does few more things for other extensions, but removing those parts don't seem to cause any noticeable speedup. Guess those parts of the browser just got slow over time. The slowdown with taskbar button minimization is not the only thing, window restoration also takes longer, the time it takes before window content is repainted and that is not Windows specific phenomenon. Looks like AVX optimizations in official build don't help much with that either. Firefox 52.9 was still fine in that regard. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Yes, this extension alone is enough to cause the delay. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Another problem, now I can't login to Reddit anymore, it requires going through the new site and suddenly can't type anything into login fields anymore. https://www.reddit.com/login/ Can anyone confirm? Edit: Just had to restart the browser, now it works. -
Installed all those service packs back then. Or more exactly went from fresh install from CD that got it slipstreamed. Must have re-installed Windows million times back then. Never ran benchmarks. XP always seemed quirky. I remember one time Explorer opening folders with delay after fresh install. Or was that those old Maxtors, what do I know.
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My Browser Builds (Part 5)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Found the exact add-on, it's CuteButtons. I've been using version 0.5.8, which I slightly modified to be loadable from browser's browser/extensions subfolder under installation folder, but it doesn't matter, original is the same. Can't find it again, it was hosted on Interlink add-ons site. The older version in Classic Add-ons Archive behaves the same way. These are my settings: I don't suppose anyone here has any idea what's going on with it? Just so we're on the same page, exact XPI I'm using: CuteButtonsCrystalSVG-0.5.8.1.xpi Edit: Ignore the version above, some changes weren't tested well, better to go with latest at https://github.com/ChoGGi/CuteButtons/releases Edit2: Actually, it's kinda odd extracting file from XPI failed when I updated from 0.5.8, now the extension works again and that part isn't called. I tested global installation in browser/extensions, which worked when fresh installed, now trying the scenario when 0.5.8 not supporting global install is updated to 0.5.8.1. Edit3: Nah, I broke it the way when trying to make it work properly making it extractless... -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
I isolated it to my add-ons. -
My Browser Builds (Part 5)
UCyborg replied to roytam1's topic in Browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes
Might be a bug with the website. While the envelope doesn't get colored, you can still click it to check if someone replied. -
Yeah, the idea is to have them all together in one spot.
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I just use Configure Automatic Updates in gpedit.msc, works for client versions, not just server, at least as long you're not stuck with Home edition or something. Never got a single update that way. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-server-update-services/deploy/4-configure-group-policy-settings-for-automatic-updates#configure-automatic-updates