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Hello, i have at first look simple question but it could be complicated.. I wonder why is not almost any new program not compatible with Windows 98, because majority of SW is still for Windows platform.. I know, that there new frameworks versions available only for new OSes, but that forces developers use them, are they really so huge benefits to abandon Windows 98 or its simple laziness care about such users? I dont have problems with few really HW hungry programs which needs 64bit OS, i dont care about games, which need newest GPU drivers, but normal apps, like browsers, monitoring utils graphics editors etc, here i dont see why this could still run on Windows 98..

I saw that driver should be integrated in W98USP3, but for me its still blinking, so its not working, i suppose. I wonder in which games it could be tested? I dont know any Windows 98 game with X360 controller support from top of my head.. Here was something about Dosbox, make Dosbox in Win9x sense?

How about 3GB per process switch, i patch tutorial isnt used 3GB per process switch, its recommanded use it with PAE patch? I dont want to be more rude that usually (im goal oriented:), but what about my logs comparision, could be problematic driver pointed?

SIV is nice, lots of info, too lots for me now, but i find what i looked under PCI-DeviceID. Only flaw is that it also dont like my Asrock board and probably its Asmedia Sata controler, if i run x64 version i got bluescreen, but its same with HWinfo (when i run it permanently disconnect my data SATA disk and i need cold boot to make it working again). Asrock sucks, but i needed specific on board device HW combination..

Its working, but show only Unknow devices, i would like to see all, especially in situation where some device has problematic driver, wrong driver or you wonder this device name is acctually which device.. Its can help sometimes but not its not ideal (replacement of device manager from modern Windows) I would like to see some output picture, because just Hardware ID without other information are almost useless how data are visually displayed really matters. I would need map HardwareID with device in Device manager screen, with drivers, something like used driver files in next collumn would help, etc.. Thanks i will check it.

I bought paragon GPT years ago, its working, but it sucks that i cant be used for boot disk.. other problem which i have i that i wasnt capable to make it work with Intel Sata i and i had to use Marwell or Asmedia Sata ports, what is pretty limiting when you selecting new board (unless you using additiona controllerl). But not be able to make it work with Intel controll, could be my fault, im also not sure about these 3TB unlockers and enablers from MB manufactors and Acronis, i once unistalled it and Paragon GTP was not working after restart.

Hello, im looking for Windows 98SE compatible utility to show HardwareID, in XP+ you can find it in Device manager, i Windows 98 is somewhere in registry, but i would like to use something better, if it is availaible??? I have tried Unknow device identifier, but version which i tried show only some memory error and nothing..

There machines with lazy BIOS memory areas implementation, like my X99 MSI board, where you dont have after XP 32 installation typical - 2.8, 3.5 GB of avalaible RAM, only in 9xx MB - and it that case is such patch necesary, because otherwise after you install typical set of resident apps for poweruser you end in constant swapping and imposibility to execute apps. Its same with Vista and Windows 7 32bit.. but there even doesnt exist such patches.. Jokes is that those OS are official on paper supported.. I have not energy to contact official support and force them to make proper bios.. Update: I had bright moment of decency and wrote MSI to fix it, in first round of support, i got question with MB is detecting all memory, these guys, they need MB serial number, but usually you can add to requst picture or file or even link it, because they even cant download something from dropbox or other link.. I directed them directly into this supermicro manual table: It would be nice, if in all manual would be such table, it saw such thing first time, even i tried to select proper X99 MB.

Sorry but sometimes is better use picture and text data, i dont mind some limitation per 1 image size, but 2 MB for all attachment in 2017 is non sense.. More post, more problems, even when you trying keep attachments smaller. Perhaps there should be bonus for donators, or possiblity to buy more space.. I could use my Dropbox and link files, but keep data here would be more persistent. Something like no *.bmp and 100 KB for one file and 300 KB for 1 post limitation should be enough.

Some pictures, disc benchmark are now in same AttoBenchmark version 2.11 - i wanst able to get version 2.45 should be too Win98+, older version are Xp+ And Nvidia problem screenshot i get it everywere when right mouse i used in explorer and right after boot too: Win 7: Win 98: Nviidia error:, after DMA is enabled

Yeah performance finally here i will post some numbers, i forgot where exactly i should turn on DMA - that it is on device setting in Device Manager. If this could be checked by some value in registry i perhaps will write some checker myself, because set and check all of this manually its sick, you could sell it for $1, cent for me 50 and 50 cents for you I sure that i will not remember all of this for more that month, its maybe 15 years when i compiled something for Win98 in Borland C++ Builder, but check some registry value and files attribs i should be easy coding.. So performance is there (i will post numbers later but is great), i but this is still not victory.. - new problems after i enabled DMA emerged, right after boot, i got some Rundll32 error, its related to Nvidia control panel, right click, anywhere in windows is not working, when i started game i have got Nvidia NVSVC error message and there is classic Nvidia shutdown problem - i rebooted twice so it is some random mistake.. - microfreezes are still there Yeah, but part of SP3 is some DMA auto enabler patch, so i hoped that it is working.. I going to by AHCI patch regardless of this problem, because of second machine.. But for now to keep it simple, i will not change IDE to AHCI, until Nvidia related bugs would be fixed. Compatibility mode is not working with my Sata III Sandisk Ultra Extreme II at all (long boot and disk is not visible in Bios), so im forced use this enhanced mode, ment for Windows 2000 and XP. Its 10 bucks, im ok with that, my that right mbr patch for 20 $ is something which scares me I will invest some time to search alternatives, because it is stupid Windows partition types detection mistake.. I just removed Sil(ly) controller from Conroe865 machine to keep it simple, i used it only because DVD ROM, i dont rember details, but you wrote something about, that DVD maybe would not be working with patch..

Vanilla QEMU could be commandline nightmare, one wrong character and lots of mess and that is why frontends are there.. QEMU is powerfull, can run even on other architekture - ARM for x86 Windows, i have Win98 on Android 7 netbook etc.. Unraid is really pretty frontend - its just simple GUI and template for typical OS, you only need edit 1 xml, i specific cases, like is Windows 98 emulation (no template) and you need edit 1 string for NIC, when you dont have USB lan.. and its only because of laziness of GUI developer, GUI is running as web page.. You can look at some video about it: If you dont game you have easy life with your machine, because for gaming everything have to be working - GPU, sound, controls, HW have to be strong etc.. Why i play games? In general, easy answer is that golden grail of video games is best movie which you could imagine were you can play some important role and change a story.. Games technology is still far from that, primary because of stupid AI (my thing), but they can still give you some moments when you feel that you are somebody else, on some other place, its like pen and paper rpgs.. Of course there are some simple stupid games for just relax too, if you have mood for them.. Its like food, alcohol, drugs, you dont need strong stuff every time, sometime is a cigarette and glass of wine enough.

I know that is replaced, not patched, but its details, important is when i tried to patch it, i have got message that this file cannot be patched - Version 2015, which was on my Conroe865 machine.------ I repeated procedure with my AMD970 i have progress, your - drivers are used, but its empty victory.. I dont have now any exclamation mark in device manager, but.. - whole point of patch was performance and its same, look at picture still around 2 MB/s like without patch, i attach same benchmark on Windows 7 same disk, its 150x faster (I expected that result would be capped around 133 MB/s in Windows 7 because of IDE mode, but board can somehow bypass with limitation, i hear that some board cant use multiple buses at once and combinate traffic, so probably this is that case..) - small freezes in game are still there, i dont know if it is storage problem or Nvidia driver problem, but i have know both patches, so its time to messing with IRQ patches? Its not too important know, but i wonder, how is possible that with same installation clone, i can on Conroe 865 start command.com in safe mode and i have got it in window mode and on AMD970 machine, i have got black screen, even in normal mode, i have discover, that my right click open command line there extension - when is used in 16bit color mode, make all colors pallete broken, in 32 bit mode it is ok. Its it some Unofficial Nvidia 82 driver bug? --- Next question, what procedure should be used to turn on ahci on port 0-3.. to keep your patch working. Which controller should i disable in device manager - could i recognize, controller for port 0-3 and second for port 4-5? I set IDE for both, but problem was in ESDI so, i thing is not necessery.. I though that i saw heaven..: Win 7: Windows 98: ----------- I now will experiment with Conroe865 machine, what is nice that purgehd is working well.. Update: This machine is jester, especially that Asrocks Enhanced SATA mode, i disable all IDE controllers in the bios, but after purge were again redetected Intel IDE controllers.. I dont understand is it coverup name for Sata controllers or what? One is without Exclamation mark, second with..

I will do it once more, but i have read U98SESP3, release notes and there was how it work with you Sata patch, i think that i did all what i should to do.. but i will recheck it. Pleas stay tuned. On second machine - intel 865 is not U98SESP3 install so problem have to elsewhere, but i had no time to check purgehc here, i think here is primary problem active ahci.. I wonder what improvements have U98SeSO3 Esdi file and why is not possible to use your patch for it?

I already discussed it on NV forum and elsewere i have got hard no go, so im wanting on your screenshot and magic..

Thanks, Here is end of bootlog, before purge from freezing configuration: [0002D509] Enumerated Sdílení souborù a tiskáren v sítích Microsoft (NETWORK\VSERVER\0006) [0002D509] Loaded PNP drivers of Protokol standardu IPX/SPX (NETWORK\NWLINK\0002) [0002D509] DEVICEINIT = DOSMGR [0002D509] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = DOSMGR [0002D509] DEVICEINIT = VMPOLL [0002D509] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VMPOLL [0002D509] DEVICEINIT = JAVASUP [0002D509] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = JAVASUP [0002D509] DEVICEINIT = VCOMM [0002D509] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VCOMM [0002D50A] DEVICEINIT = VCOND [0002D50A] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VCOND [0002D50A] DEVICEINIT = VTDAPI [0002D50A] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VTDAPI [0002D50A] DEVICEINIT = KEYREMAP [0002D50A] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = KEYREMAP [0002D50A] DEVICEINIT = VFLATD [0002D50A] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VFLATD [0002D50A] DEVICEINIT = Display1 [0002D50A] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = Display1 [0002D50A] DEVICEINIT = SBEMUL [0002D50A] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = SBEMUL [0002D50A] DEVICEINIT = VDMAD [0002D50A] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VDMAD [0002D50A] DEVICEINIT = V86MMGR [0002D50A] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = V86MMGR [0002D50A] DEVICEINIT = TSKNF700 [0002D50A] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = TSKNF700 [0002D50A] DEVICEINIT = SPOOLER [0002D50A] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = SPOOLER [0002D50A] DEVICEINIT = UDF [0002D50A] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = UDF [0002D50A] DEVICEINIT = VFAT [0002D50A] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VFAT [0002D50A] DEVICEINIT = VDEF [0002D50A] DEVICEINITSUCCESS = VDEF [0002D50A] Initing mcdbus.mpd [0002D50A] Init Success mcdbus.mpd [0002D50A] Initing esdi_506.pdr [0002D50A] Init Success esdi_506.pdr [0002D50A] Initing esdi_506.pdr [0002D50A] Init Success esdi_506.pdr [0002D50A] Initing esdi_506.pdr Looks like esdi, related. Date of this size: ‎9. Nov(11th month) ‎2000, ‏‎18:53:06, size - 24 431 + there are 2 *.baks file backups with almost same name.. one 5.5.1999, one 3 May 2015 I will update this post later, after purge etc. Hmm, i have stupid problem, i cant run purge in safe mode, because when i start command.com i have go black screen (monitor constantly changing between black screen and powerstate), i dont know if is Nvidia or my HP 24 LCD (When will machine start to working i will search in garage for proper CRT monitor) related problem (its 60 Hz, maybe Windows trying set 70 Hz, or unsupported Windows resolution...), or Windows problem.. Update: I have started purge in normal mode, i ran ok no controller, but after that again normal boot freeze.. I didnt checked it, i have go to sleep, but i bet that i would be esdi problem.. Update2: Bootlog hangs on same line.

Ok, i did it: Once again its not working for me, reboot after is Sata driver installed in normal mode and second (first with installed drivers) normal boot freeze, im quite sure that i did all steps right.. I think that you really should write some simple check (if i did all really right) or installation utility.. Because probably some assumption how it is working is wrong..

It is. Ok new info, i want to all port in IDE mode, but i will try it. Im affraid that it will be neccesity, to be honest this Windows 98 project, is probably biggest failure in my retro gaming journey.. I invested much less time, into Unraid Windows 98, which is now up and working, but im dont like messy accounts, so im not give up on physical machines.. BTW you should consider some you all in one package for gaming or something like that. I hope that on dead bed you will make it open source and enhance manking, im affraid that even in next decades some madmans will this try to check authentic Win98 experience.. Ok all above was about my AMD970 machine, what abou my Conroe865PE, is there any hope, without AHCIBIOS patch? Present situation summary - its booting only in Enhanced - IDE mode, when im getting MS-DOS mod and im unable to make DVD drive working on mother Sata port or on Sil3512 controller. I experimenting in was day with Compact flash to IDE adapter and this MB IDE looks problematic.. there are issues too.. Installation of XP with USB installer took 5 hours, very slow disk transfers, could be crappy adapter (i have tried 2), but i think that is about board a its enhanced mode, compatibility mode dont working for most of my devices at all.. Or it maybe dont like my SIl3512 board, but XP and WIndows 7 and LMDE 2 Linux are working fine with that and without working Sata i dont want to remove it..

I suppose that you already studied those threads? So just major questions: 1) how is Direct3D and OpenGL managed, if its working how fast? 2) Virtualbox is in general quite slug- slow (i dont really like pay 300 bucks for Vmware worktation license, but Virtualbox "quality" is forcing me to do it, with ever major Vmware release.. for my normal work, WIn 98 is my hobby..) - you can see lots of KVM, VMware vs Virtualbox performance comparion on Phoronix is quite far from physical HW or passthrough.. so found mister Kurt some magic solution for that? Or its slow, but because of slowness of Windows 98 on real HW, is still faster? Its quite know that Vmware is faster for some old configuration and tasks that physical HW, because of some secret sauce hacks and old OS design flaws..

Hmm i would extected something simple like - im starting this, done, im starting that.. crash or missing entry, Linux boot logs is quite simple in this logic. Why it is more complex and complicated, its boot multithreaded, or some already started drive could crash after a while? If logging such, could be coded some logging wrapper to make it better, because if debug sucks, development usually sucks too. Here is good boot log, same machine, same installation: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2741044/Win32PAEDebug/ntbtlog-MasterOnd-GoodBootNoPae.txt

PROBLEMCHYLD - 1 hint if you need something between VM (no proper 3D drivers for Win98 in no go for me) and physical machine, Unraid (KVM) is solution, its fastest Windows 98 machine which i had (no CPU Win98 limitation, because of MB compatibility, fastest today / future CPU possible, no IDE or Sata - driver speed problems its fast, no NIC lan problem - Realtek 8139 NIC is emulated) and it does GPU passthough so 3D is working and emulated hardware is best compatible (intel440) which no could have, no installation problems etc... Only hassles are: - that you need to switch display outputs + usb inputs (manually or with some display output switch with auto detection or inputs priority support - Input1 signal> Input 2>Input 3) or multiple displays (Lazy solution, i mean use 1 display just for booting and maintenance, is waste ). USB - you could be more usb input devices, usb switch or passthrough whole USB controller for particular machine (most elegant). - when you use more 1 virtual machines at once on 1 physical HW, you could crash them all at once, but there is advantage, that crash of Windows 98 or other machine, could crash only virtual and physical machine could survive - there some isssues with Display signal output - one more layer - additional layer of QEMU, were could be bugs, but once you hit right configuration (1 xml file) you are ok and there is quite sure that QEMU and Unraid will get better and better over time. - you need HW with vt-d support - so no cheap Core i3 / Pentiums / Celeron.. or Ryzen (stupidly designed IO groups regarding to Level1tech) Other advantages are better use of 1 pc for better multiboot, there is not all HW (for example, you have 4 /8 (cheap AMD slugs, but still 8 cores) core machine, but because of Win98, you are utilizing only 1 core and all 3/7 not used at all - there could be NAS, Linux Web browser terminal, girlfriends or guest pc etc..) just sacrificed to dark god of Windows 98.. For Win 98 just need 1 old PCI-E/ PCI GPU, which could be in any PCI-E slot and thats all, because of passthrough you dont care about disabling old GPU in modern OS (its not forwarded there). Passthrough compatibility is quite good, i wasnt able passthrough only 1 GPU (Ati Mach 2 MB PCI), but even Vooodoo 3 worked. Audio could be passthrough too, i used PCI Audigy, but USB Soundcard is maybe more elegant solution. I dont have any shares in KVM / Unraid, i swear

Hello, i wonder why someone still now using Windows 98 except obvious reasons like retro gaming (my thing, for me 9x games were best at least in money / performance ratio, so lots now impossible concepts were realized), or old software support. This system wasnt own for its stability, messing with drivers is hell and lots of modern features are missing. Its about speed and purity of GUI, or you only hate change?

I use lots of such programs - when i check Autoruns log, in Drivers tab is lots things and less than i thing 1/2 is hardware related. Yeah clean i mean, installed XP with HW drivers but without other user programs. Logs, this is problem im using bootlog start options, but i have checked C:\Windows\ntbtlog.txt + minidump directory, but there wasnt any record for last boot on some computers, only some old ones.. im not sure in i can of PAGE_FAULT*IN_*NON_PAGED AREA is anything logged.. I or look into wrong log. Logs (ntblog + autoruns) from main computer attached, its old installation - very customized: / I know, i know, some ghost drivers should be removed.. and there are strange things like paragon GPT driver + etc.. I but i tried to remove some usuall suspects, without success. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2741044/Win32PAEDebug/PaeDebug.7z HW: Asrock Z97 Extreme 4 / 3.1 board (with Asmedia Sata + USB and Intel LAN crapp) + Core i7 + 32 GB an Geforce 970. Non pae boot is fine, Safe mode with PAE is fine, PAE no safe boot mode is failing.

I suppose that Sha2017 is name of planet in far, far galaxy:)

I think that it is about 1 card setup, not about dual card setup, in general i have not problem with single Geforce 7950GT card in Win 7 or 10, but its hard to believe that multiple cards are working, virtualy whole internet says that it dont.. but here in Win 98 > 1 GB machine list, is 1 users entry, which claim that Geforce 7950GT and Geforce 950 is working in Windows 10. I really want to see it, if it working, there is some special trick which need to be done, simple dual gpu stunt described above is not enough.