Jody Thornton

Oh well I dove in and installed my updates. I have a Vista-based VS enabled so it doesn't look like Windows 8, but it is

Well, I find it interesting that December's security-only update (KB4054523) for Server 2012 is only 1.4 MB. Wonder what's in it that makes it so small. I suppose I always worry that Microsoft will find a way to kill off what we're doing in this thread.

Hi Folks: Wondering if there is a way to relocate the "Windows Defender" folder under \ProgramData to a separate drive or partition. I wanted to relocate all of the scans, updates and defintions to another folder on my D: drive. Any takers?

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Well it lets you place a dot in any of the four radio buttons to select, but doesn't link to a download. Anyway, sounds like I better not try ...lol

I wasn't the one initiating this conversation. The OP claimed that he got a version of IE 11 running on Windows 8. I just wanted to check the legitimacy of his claim. I've removed Internet Explorer using Add/Remove features. So I'm no trying to run IE 11.

So where are you downloading this from? I looked on the page in greenhillmaniac's post and I don't see a download link.

Does anyone know about the task "Pre-staged GDR Notification" (which utilizes notificationui.exe)? Can this be disabled? Also "Tpm-Maintenance" raised my curiosity. (under TPM)

I do live in Southern Ontario, just north of Toronto.

No updates on this I guess? Would running an update v1.75 still be safe?

Hmmmm I tried Quantum on Nightly and again yesterday as a release. Bookmarks were in the top left. As for add-ons, I only needed uBlock and that has been ported to WebExtensions. But the speed increase is quite perceptible. My plan is, I'll stay on the Moon until I replace my machine, and then I'll move to Quantum full-time. There is some usrChrome.css code I use to place the tab bar underneath the address bar. But I like the Photon interface.

One other thing regarding.NET updates. If I install the Quality Rollup for v4.5.2, how far back does it update the component? Four months? Five months. So on a clean install of Windows 8, after I've updated to January 2016, can I just install the last Quality Rollup?

I haven't read everything, but does the 2012 version install?

Tsk Tsk! I was very nice to you in that thread hotnuma, so there's no need for that first statement (I will maintain that wasn't trolling). Moreover, I credited those behind these contributions, and even tried it on my mom's old computer when I was visited last. The progress made on New Moon was quite commendable I admit.

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I think maybe it's best - right or wrong, for me to take a break from this for awhile. I think I'll stick to contributing to the Vista and Windows 8 update threads once a month. This will calm the waters. It saddens me, but it's probably for the best. I find it odd @Destro, that your bothered by my touting Windows NT 6x class systems, yet you run Windows 7 (judging from your avatar). But that's OK. You should feel comfortable where you post online, and if you think it's best not to have this sort of conversation, then I can go elsewhere. Well folks, much appreciated.

Well first off, I'm not spewing anything. What I'm saying has merit. There are indeed good reasons, especially on modern hardware, to move to an NT 6x class OS and leave Windows XP behind. When I say that, I'm not talking about any fake news, or social injustice stuff or whatever. On modern hardware, it's my view and experience that even Vista SP2 is more solid in day-to-day operation than Windows XP. And quicker boot times (which used to be important to me, aren't as much anymore), because I'd rather have a more solid foundation to work on top of, and longer uptime. Usually I just log off my workstation, so the OS rarely needs to be rebooted. You don't see it that way? - perfectly fine, but that doesn't make what I say spewed nonsense. I don't see how my deferring preference to XP is toxic in any way. Why do you see it that way? So if I have to "fall in line" and say only positive things about XP, aren't you saying I have to be disingenuous about my feelings? Isn't that toxic? There was a post (a very supportive one I might add) that mentioned I might be enlightened by positive views about XP, Not only is that true, but I already see value in Windows XP, especially the x64 Edition. That OS worked extremely well. But I have to concede that my PC runs even better on Windows NT 6x incarnations. I'm not bashing anyone by saying that. So why does that bother you? Why can't we actually have a discussion? Why is that "toxic" to you?

That clears a lot up. I do Security only updates, so I guess I'll stick with the cumulative IE updates. Thanks so much Greenhillmaniac

So IE Security-Only Updates are called "Quality" updates? How would anyone have realize that this was for IE 10?

Thanks for the heads up Greenhillmaniac So does the IE 10 security only update remain listed in your repository for the last month, or is there a backup of all previous ones? I know for the Flash update only the last one is needed. I also find the .NET listings on the Microsoft Catalog confusing. I just want the security only updates for the default installed .NET Framework (which is v4.5 right?). But it seems that updates for v4.6x and v4.7x also install.

That's unfortunate that you feel that way. I respect you having your two cents, but I think it's sad that you feel that any open thought like that is trollish, because to me it's conformist to have to be agreeable all the time. No one grows that way. But I've made my points clear. That will all from me.

See what you're saying is actually more heated and argumentative than anything I have ever said. Basically you've called me "clueless". I have been several places where debate can be handled nicely. Grown-ups disagree and learn from each other. But it shows that all you wish to do is stick to your club house mind set, and that no other opinions are allowed. That's too bad. It's almiost as if you're more interested in saying "We showed him guys - get that trash outta here". And it's perfectly OK for you to say Windows 10 is crap - this forum has a thread DEVOTED to it. Fine close the thread. MSFN should not be about saving XP or or legacy operating discussions. It should be about open discussion and thought or debate. It can include the topics about legacy OS systems, but shouldn't dominate it, because it make visitors and contributors think that they should conform to a mandate - that is NEVER right. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As a by the way, @Dencorso, can you tell me what "upvote" specifically means?

Noooooo wait Dibya! I don't want to muzzle you. You have a right to speak, just as much as I do. Your attitude isn't stupid. I disagree with some of your thoughts, but you make lots of contributions here (New Moon for example and the XP layers). I can't criticize that. I think XP has had its day, but that doesn't mean your opinion doesn't have value. I'm saying the same for me too. That's all. So don't feel your not allowed to talk. We all can praise and criticize each other. That constitutes open and fair conversation.

Dibya, in all my comments to you I have made in this forum, although I usually disagree with you, I have been respectful. But you're always responding to me in an enraged tone. Why is that? Are you saying that for mutually respectful conversation to exist, I MUST agree with you? That's not fostering an equitable situation as I see it. I've never disliked XP x64 (in fact I used to like Windows 2000 a lot better in fact), so I see the value that post OS incarnations held. Now, I don't mind you crapping on Windows 10 - no problem there; we agree. But when you state that Windows 8 and 8.1 are inferior to Windows Millennium Edition, I have to say that you're doing no differently than I might be with XP. And you forget that XP was NOT perfect on its own either. I have folders of utilities, reg hacks and what not for XP (both x86 and x64). And I like many desktop additions to Vista/7/8x (like breadcrumbs for folder access - just as an example). So not everyone thinks XP was the best desktop. I did then, but not now. Now did I not express what I did above in a friendly, mutually respectful manner? I think I did. Have a good day Dibya

I'm not trolling. You get to expouse your opinions, and so do I. What you're saying is if I express an opinion opposite to yours, then that's trolling? My lord, what you're describing then is pack mentality or club house mentality. That's not fair. You are free to state that Windows 8 and 10 are crap without hesitation, but I'm not allowed to say critical things about XP? Why is that? Especially in a thread set up to allow that, Look just above what Dibya writes: After so I gonna complete your words. JodyT stop speaking this meaning less things. XPX64 beats 8x64 like a lion roars up on a cat and make it loose it sense. I fact it is im possible to beat memory routine of xp . Same for xp x86. XP is legend and nothing becomes legend for luck. Man say me why 8 never got too popular. It has millions of draw backs. I know you can fix it with 3rd party fixes but it is not perfect of its own. Notice he says it as fact. Now I don't agree with that (nor do many experts). Besides, this thread was set aside for just this purpose. We can either debate intelligently, or you can hurl comments like "Stop saying these things". You mustn't choose to be personally offended. All your doing is making me out to be a bad guy when I am only fairly expressing my opinion.