well i'm a big fan of Pro Evolution Soccer (i wasn't when it was Internatio Superstar Soccer). since fifa2000 EA sucks, they improve the visuals but gameplay sucks. about winning eleven, well is exactly the same as PES. it is just that on asia the game is selled under other name, b/c of the differents release dates there are another small differences like updated transfers or maybe small bug fixes but in general it is the same game. another important thing is the amount of patches have grown on the net like music replacements, balls, shirts, stadiums... you can search for "BioHaZaRD Mod" that i proudly made ps: i thought ipb2 will come with some smileys more... edit: have u ever visited http://pespc-files.soccergaming.com/, a good source to start modifying aspects of the game