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However i see XP there... I don't think i'm wrong.

That's true. Adobe has done nothing but bloat lately. But we can't change it ourselves as everybody uses it... If you didn't know, let me inform you that Romania is in the south-east of Europe. DOS 7.10 can, the GUI itself never.

The GF4 MX4000 is a bit better than the TNT2 and supports a few more tricks, however on that system it wouldn't make too much of a difference. See if you can find a Radeon 9250 PCI, that supports DX 8.1 and is pretty much the best you can get on PCI for that rig. Windows Me has native high-color systray icons indeed. As for the disk tools, i don't know as i never used any of them. But what i know is that it's much more stable than 98SE on my laptop, it's very close to XP in stability. A few quirks appear here and there, but it's probably because of the way i like to use the start menu. It has rarely forced me to reset the machine. As an idea, here's what i do with my start menu. After having used it for about half an year, i think that Me is the most underrated Windoze version ever. I remember keeping my 98SE till XP SP1 came out, it seems i missed something nice in Me.

Windows Me... As it only needs one unofficial service pack, KernelEx, and optionally UberSkin. 98SE2ME on 98 is sometimes unstable, Me runs better. Tweaking... Just remove the PCHealth startup item (there was another one too you had to remove but i don't remember) and disable System File Protection right after you install Me, pretty much everything else is done by the unofficial service pack. Video i'd say a Riva TNT2 PCI, or a GF4 MX4000.

However, that is called Puppy Linux...

It would help to get a "real" reader. Teac CD-540E, Teac DV-516D or Lite-On LTR-52327S if you can find one of them. Trust me. The CD-540E has been the CD-ROM drive against everything else was benchmarked for several years, the DV-516D has an incredibly powerful laser - it blazes through basically anything i throw at it despite that it doesn't even have C2 error correction, and the Lite-On LTR-52327S was so good it was OEMed by Sony and Teac, and the only reason i'm on my second one is that a bad power supply killed the first. If you can't get any of those, try any Lite-On DVD writer to read it. It should do better than your Nec.

Mention the site and we will see.

It doesn't have to do with the codecs but it does with the installer. Latest version works without issues. Thanks for the info on MSN, added to the list.

That's an unfair proposal. Flash is a CPU hog even on recent hardware. It's not even hardware-accelerated. Did you actually test this, or is this just an assumption? This sure isn't true in Windows XP, which has a bit better multi-tasking than Win9x. I tend to think that an application being able to take over the CPU is a flaw in the OS, not because single-core is bad. What do you mean by "recent hardware" ? As i said my laptop with PIII @ 933 is fine with most flash video sites. As for yahfoo, everybody i know with an internet connection has it. I experienced the lockup many, many, many times on my laptop when i used to run XP on it. While the dual-PIII has no trouble with it.

Could be, didn't check. Will do. Edit: Checked the whole topic and added to the list accordingly. Forget that, Universal Extractor 1.6 beta works.

I'm looking for a virtual machine software that i could use to run XP inside WinMe. I know it'll be slow, but it's gonna be for testing only. Do you know of a good software to run it? QEMU and Bochs are out of the question as they can't even run 95 at a half-decent speed.

But will they beat even the cheapest C2D? I don't think so.

WinMe ftw. Seriously, it's just 98SE without DOS if you know how to handle it. And it runs better than 98.

Pentium 4 (Netburst architecture) was the biggest mistake Intel made. They were slow and ran very hot. Dual PIIIs @ 1GHz+ wipe the floor with any P4. I know that the Tualatin evolved in the Pent M and later in the Core, but i simplified it a little. DOSBox is very useful. I do prefer a P1 with 32MB RAM and an AWE64 soundcard instead, but that's just me. But i'm talking about 16-bit Windows programs. And no, ntvdm.exe doesn't do the trick, especially when you have a game using mixed 32-bit and 16-bit DLLs. Compatibility mode? Bwahaha, what a joke. When it does work it makes the program throw random errors instead of not starting at all. Really awesome. As about deleting the recycle bin, in 2k/XP you can delete the boot loader with 3 lines in a bat file without anyone noticing. On next reboot there's no more winblows. In what way did security evolve in XP? The memory leak issue isn't that bad. For some reason or another i have to reboot at least once a day so i don't worry about it. However you are wrong about SMP, and... uh... Try Youtube or another flash video site on that Celeron. My laptop in sig can run them in their window without hiccups, but smooth fullscreen is only possible if i don't have anything else CPU intensive running at that moment. A little example of SMP. Yahoo Messenger has the nasty habit of locking up when transferring files at high speed (over 2MB/s). With my dual-PIII i can set Realtime priority and assign it to one of the CPUs, and i still have another one available to surf the web or play games. On a single core system Yahoo Messenger would kill all CPU resources, forcing you to wait till the transfer is done. I wished i was in Linux when i saw Vista's permission stuff. I want root command line. And i sure miss DOS alright. I remember being 6 and learning what I/O, IRQ and DMA meant so i could configure my soundcard for DOS games in Win95. I keep a 586 box around just for messing about in DR-DOS. As for XP's drivers, this is why they removed the Vista audio stack from the kernel space to the user space. However, this didn't make it more stable than XP, just created more trouble... See above.

I was thinking about the database Wine has, and we should make one too for KernelEx so people know exactly what works and what not. For now it could just be in this topic, then we could expand it on a site like the Wine AppDB is. One would just search for the program he wants to use and find info. I'm a fan of bishoujo (dating sim) games, and even patched one to run properly on XP and Vista. The game engines are usually scripted, and they depend a lot on certain functions of the OS they were built on so they are very fussy when it comes to compatibility. I can provide info on lots of crappily coded games. Edit concerning games: Check this thread for more info. So let's start it. I'll first put in the programs reported as working by Xeno86 then put my list in. What works: Alcohol 120% 1.9.5.3105 Notes: This is the last version working natively in 9x, without needing any patches. Why not stick with what works? I've never had any problem with this version, as a matter of fact i still use it on my dual-PIII running XP. Adobe Flash Player Plugin for Opera/Firefox Notes: Needs temporary replacing of [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion] VersionNumber key to "5.10.2600" to install - DON'T FORGET to change it back!!! bbLean Firefox 3 foobar2000 0.9.4.x Notes: Needs setting of [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion] CurrentVersion key to 5.1 DON'T FORGET to delete it afterwards!!! K-Lite Codec Pack Notes: DON'T let it to "correct the registry", and i prefer to just use KMPlayer. Meedio MSN Messenger 7.0.820 Notepad2 OpenOffice.org Photoshop CS PunkBuster Skype Triple Cheese Visual C++ Toolkit 2003 What doesn't work: Yahoo Messenger 9 Beta Why: Does not want to install and says it needs Win2k or higher no matter what compatibility i set in KernelEx or registry. Sound Forge 9.0e Why: Doesn't install, says "The operating system does not support this application". Anyone know how to trick the new InstallShield? Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 Why: Installs from the .msi but doesn't run. No error message. Corel did nothing but bloat it anyway, so i'll stick to Paint Shop Pro 8, the last version released by Jasc.

You had that menu in XP too, just that it appeared at the center of the screen. In Vista you have that little red button on the start menu which you can configure so you can shut down with a single click. However i still don't like the rest of the start menu. Only thing i like is that they FINALLY fixed the scrambling programs menu, so you don't have to click "sort by name" every time you install a new piece of software.

Tihiy's KTM is the RP7 ctrl-alt-del menu ported to UberSkin. I don't know about CoralSoft's task manager since i never used it.

Only problem is, no one really uses the search button.

Here you are wrong. SMP is good for home use. It allows for better multitasking on the piece of crap known as Vista. And there are single core Conroe processors. They're (still) called Celerons. XP doesn't have any big disadvantages except not having DOS and 16 bit components. This is the reason for most of the compatibility problems. However, having gone through the trouble to patch an older game to run in XP, certainly some things are broken, but what's more irritating is that they broke some of them in updates, the original SP2 release was better. And WGA? Wots dat???? Vista 64-bit is okay, however they broke most of the compatibility that somehow remained intact in the 32-bit version which is SLOW. And having to deal with permissions when modifying the system folders is such a b***h. I run Vista 64 as my main OS on the C2D rig in sig, but i end up doing most of the work in a virtual machine running 32-bit XP... So true. PS. XP is VERY responsive on my dual-PIII 700 @ 933MHz / 1GB SDRAM / 9800 Pro / Sil 3112A PCI SATA + WD 320GB. However i downgraded the XP in my Portege laptop to Me (98 had serious stuttering issues when accessing the network), and it'll stay that way. Very poor memory performance (ALi chipset, bleh) and better compatibility with the crap i play on this laptop makes Me a much better choice. One PIII is not enough for XP. Two PIIIs at 800MHz or higher, yes. The C2D/C2Q chips are based on the PIII Tualatin core btw. But... Here's the reason i still love 9x: It lets me delete the recycle bin!!! And yea i did that for real once.

The standard KTM logo looked boring, besides, i don't run 98. So i did this, a blend of classic 9x style and Vista Aurora. For all WinMe users out there. Also fixed a little typo that Tihiy made. Download: WinMe with classic logo: Download DLL WinMe with XP logo: Download DLL Win98 with XP logo: Download DLL Instructions: Reboot the system. Extract archive in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM replacing original KTM8.DLL if any Enjoy!

Well... I want the XP start menu on Vista. Doable?

The NT DOS emulator always eats up all the CPU time when running Borland C++. You can set it to have a lower priority so it doesn't slow down the system that much when you have it running but are not using it. As for the second problem, i don't know as i never had it.

Avira is a decent free antivirus. And yeah, AVG 8 sucks, and not only because of the reason posted above.

Go into the BIOS and set SATA Mode to IDE instead of AHCI. Done.

That PSU will be fine. And what overclocking question? I think i missed it.