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Use the GWX Ctrl Panel, and all your problems will be solved. You set it to keep Win Updates off, and off they'll keep, all right! Waste no time: download it (no installation needed, it's portable!), configure it, and there you go! It just works!

Moonchild (who has my respect and whose work is great) has positions regarding the so-called EoS NT-family OSes much in line with MS's own, and that's surprising, if not actually perplexing... he, at the same time resisted change so strongly as to branch off a browser (Pale Moon) from FF, while making any MS fanboi ashamed when compared with his positions regarding the EoS NT-family OSes! So, in what regards the so-called EoS NT-family OSes, with all due respect, Moonchild's position can be regarded as the ASTM standard opinion Satya Nadella would like to be able to hold, but lacks sufficient indoctrination not to be ashamed of... Go figure!

Milliseconds. Total time is 49.7 days.

If you are on XP SP3 and using FF 47.0.1, you shouldn't need to change anything in the string value of media.gmp-manager.url: it's correct already! What part of "45.x.x ESR users *ONLY*" did you fail to understand? Have you considered the server may be down? Wait at least 24h, then try again. And when you do try again, be sure to click on "check for updates" if it still has not istalled by itself. Of course! All those variables will be undefined when using the address bar.

Just in case you've already started getting naga to update from IE10 to IE11 (which is not possible on 8), here is a small reg spoof to tell those sites you're using IE11. Since I've decided to remain using IE10 on 7 Ultimate x64 SP1, I'm getting those nags from time to time, so I provide my solution in case it may help others avoid such nags. Remember, after copying the text below to a text file, make sure it ends with two blank lines, then rename the file from .txt to .reg and merge it to the registry. A good site to check the UserAgent, both before and after the spoof is applied is this one. It's necessary to reboot, for the spoof to start working. Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent] @="Mozilla/5.0" "Version"="MSIE 11.0" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent] @="Mozilla/5.0 "Version"="MSIE 11.0" [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\User Agent] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\User Agent] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\User Agent] @="" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\User Agent] @=""

Done! BTW, is it cruel to kick a robot dog?

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2016/07/13/this-robot-is-designed-to-strut-like-a-human.cnn/video/playlists/stories-worth-watching/ http://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/military-robots/do-we-want-robot-warriors-to-decide-who-lives-or-dies

Hi, Harry! Try going to the MS Update Catalog Main Page (must be on IE), and then search for Windows Server 2012. Then download the "Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows Server 2012 (KB3174060)" and try it. It should just work. And that's the place for harvesting the other updates in JodyT's thread, too. In any case, I'm really surprised an update to Flash Player gave you grief... I'm thinking something may have been very wrong with the intallation script... ...and JodyT has already tested the one I mentioned, which does work OK.

Just for the record... Flash v. 22.0.0.209 is out for some days already...

While it were IBM and Xerox (thus bona-fide representatives of the vanguard of Capitalism) the 1st tech companies (if I'm not mistaken) to push the lease-not-buy model of business, way back when, it's ironic, to say the least, that this same model evolved into the harbinger of some kind of Orwellian (or maybe Zamyatinesque) new order, with passing time, isn't it?

That's the way to go! There is no simpler solution, unfortunately. But that one just works, and that is good enough. Now, just to set the record straight: 3.5 SP1 installs 3.0 and 2.0, but not 1.x. So you have 4.0, 3.5, 3.0 and 2.0. But 1.x is not needed for mostly everything, because 2.0 replaces it. So you should be quite OK!

Weren't you offered KB3170735? Well, of course I'm following Woody in recommending to avoid (and hide) it, when offered, but I thought it'd be pushed to you, too. So, then, does that mean not even MS really thinks it's truly important?

Mr. Eric Schneiderman must be commended by his move. And he certainly will win many cases over it for a long time. As for justice, nowadays, it's neither swift, nor blind... but has been somewhat absent-minded for some time already... but, from time to time, for a change, she reacts... and sometimes it's even effective. But sure it's still better than nothing.

And they're appearing at Windows Update once more, all right!

Sometimes a company grows beyond its ability to provide value again, so that even when they think they can do it again, they end up sriveling and dying without even realizing it. I think MS may have already reached that point and, if so, then there's no turning back.

Mine, too! Problem is: in case MS never moves on from Win 10 (its purported "forever system"), then a plan B is needed, for the far future... Now, predicting facts so far in the future is difficult, but I believe I see FreeBSD (or maybe OpenVMS) there, but surely not linux.

@jaclaz: the original Bell Labs unix was about just working, not freedom. AIX, HP-UX, SunOS, IRIX and so many others never were free in any sense. It was rms and others that later came up with the free lore. linux was concieved as a free OS. But if freedom were its core value, it wouldn't have licenced lots of code for Android and the IBM distribution of linux for System Z servers, nor Bash for Mac OS X, Solaris and others (now even MS), right? Man, you get the trophy... That's a helluva obscure linux distribution you've came out with!

I like it, too. But it seems to me that the Sun will go out before they have a XP level production OS. Not that I'm in a hurry, mind you, but...

Well... there is OpenVMS, IIRR. Does it run on AMD64? I'm sure it was ported to Itanium... I'd love to be back ona VMS machine running CDE desktop... I surely miss that.

True. I do too. I love awk and colrm. But their main contribution to the unix community surely is Bash, the best unix shell of them all. Even MS has folded, as you've seen, and now Win 10 does run Bash too, at long last... And others gave some definitive contributions, too. SUN's ZFS, developed for Solaris, is probably the best unix FS of all, and is used by the xxxBSDs (of which PC-BSD is a distribution), Mac OS X and, of course, Illumos... and more recently Ubuntu (one Linux distribution) has adopted it, too. So one can safely say ZFS is becoming a de-facto standard, just as Bash already is. Now, if you bear in mind that iOS is a derivative of Mac OS X and that Android is a derivative of GNU/Linux, things become simple: one can look at the marketshare for desktops as 88.5% Windows, 11.4% unix, 0.1% whatever else, while the mobile marketshare is 84.5% unix and growing (and some believe that's where the future of computation lies, which may even be true, for the masses, at least...). Now, is this food for thought, or what?

Sure thing. Let's see if I can grind it some, for you: thre are really just 4 unixes created from scratch: the original Bell Labs one, which reached its most influential point at (and is usually refererred to as) System V, which is the source for the early Solaris from which OpenSolaris (IA-32 and AMD64) was derived and, when Oracle decided to kill it, became Illumos, which is now in the process of ridding itself from the last trace of proprietary SUN (err... Oracle) code, in orfer to be truly free. It sure has potential, but is not really mature yet. Then there is the Berkley Software Distribution (BSD), the ancestor to all xxxBSDs, of which FreeBSD seems to be the most mature, and also the ancestor to Mac OS X. It has no Bell Labs (err... AT&T) proprietary code in it, as of version 4.3, its most influential point. Then there is MINIX, created from scratch by A. S. Tannenbaum explicitly to be ans educational tool, and Linux, which 1st alpha version drew heavily on MINIX, but after Tannenbaum said "enough!" rid itself from all MINIX code and, from that point, was written from scratch by Linus Torvalds et al. and uses GNU Project userland, so it shoud be rightly called GNU/linux. Then there are the distributions, which are the unix equivalent to the MS concept of "home", "professional", "enterprise", "ultimate", "fantbulous", etc., but which are legion, since nothing is really prohibited in the unix universe. So, in a peanutshell: Illumos, the BSDs, MacOS X and GNU/linux... the rest is just a mountful of air, so to say. Yes. The key concept here is Mixed, though. But it does use some bona-fide open source things, like the (great) Bash shell, which was created by the GNU Project. Then again, most every other unix nowadays does so, too. It's one of the few consensuses (if there is any) among developers: Bash rocks!

This topic has been updated! What's New? on posts #2 & #3: ragnargd's five new machines have been added and the two old ones updated. Let's keep the list up-to-date: If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

In a nutshell: 1.) Linux was written from scratch by Linus Torvalds & al., when Andrew S. Tanenbaum refused to let MINIX become more than a didactic OS, around 1991. 2.) All 3 xxxBSDs are derived from the original BSD 4.3, but OpenBSD strives to attain "true openness" (whatever that may be), NetBSD tries to run evrywhere and FreeBSD tries to run everything (it can run linux executables unmodified, and even some windows network devices!). Both FreeBSD and NetBSD are from 1993, while OpenBSD forked off NetBSD 3 about years later. Most of the xxxBSD users do run FreeBSD, at this point in time. Perhaps the most adequate FreeBSD distribution to try (for a 1st contact with the OS) might be PC-BSD, maybe the one using the KDE desktop environment. 3.) Illumos descends from OpenSolaris, and is still just a promising OS, ATM. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MINIX_3#/media/File:Unix_history-simple.svg

That's why I think if unix is the solution (I'm not saying it is...) then FreeBDS or maybe NetBSD must be the solution not linux, nor illumos, nor OpenBSD.