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@XP2003 - Having tried all of the browsers that you mentioned, I believe they are all good for different things. You just have to be aware of the pros and cons, the strengths and weaknesses of their respective engines. For example, NM27 can't do everything that 28 can, but NM27 is still a fantastic browser, and more than enough for surfing most sites to this day (it helps if you turn JavaScript off when & where possible, because a lot of modern sites can tax its aging JS engine [which was solid back in the day and is STILL good if you visit sites with well-coded JS, though those are now few and far between]). What's important is having something that works for your needs, and experimentation is not only useful but encouraged. Roy's SSE builds are optimized for processors that support SSE but which do not have SSE2 (for example, Pentium III, PIII-derived Celeron, and Athlon XP). Of course, you can still run an SSE build on a modern processor and it will work absolutely fine, but unless an SSE build is as high as you can go (I think it's the upper limit for his periodic Firefox 45ESR builds), you're better off using the Win32 builds because those are better optimized for SSE2+ capable processors. The IA32 builds should be able to run theoretically on anything as low as a 386, but for XP the minimum is a pre-MMX Pentium (so that is as low as you can go for testing purposes). @ArcticFoxie - I am typing this from your 360v12 build...I'm VERY impressed with your efforts here. You've clearly put a lot of effort into tweaking this for the best possible performance. I only had to change a few things in the main settings (I didn't touch the deeper stuff), more out of personal preference (nitpicks) than anything else. This is running like a champ, and is incredibly stable. Not one crash so far, and it's quite a bit faster than v13 (the speed difference is especially noticeable on my old GX620 with a 2.8GHz Pentium D and 2GB GTX 750 Ti [which REALLY helps]). In fact, I'm now pairing it with the latest NM28 build (as it uses pretty much the same engine as Serpent52 with a more old-school interface, and because I don't really use WebRTC or any of the other 'modern' features in Serpent). Kudos to you--this is absolutely solid! For now, your v12 has dethroned any version of v13 as my secondary browser. @roytam1 - Thank you for the update! Even when there are no UXP updates, I'm always happy to see all of the binaries you share.

Thanks all for the great input - much appreciated! I am having a good experience with VLC, very happy to find out they are still supporting XP as well! After opening VLC, by clicking Media > Open Network Stream, it is possible to put in a Youtube link. Playback is very smooth Edit: I am able to run 720p on the Celeron without any big frame drops, within a VM environment. Audio and video both work and jumping to different parts in the video goes quick as well

* these (plural) , otherwise like and totally agree .

Advance Notice: due to lack of updates in upstream, there will be no UXP based builds tomorrow.

With a very limited system you can't play video in a browser. The HTML and JavaScript take too much processing power. You need to use a video player which can extract the video, and then switch to a blank tab in the browser. Use SMPlayer+Youtube-DL+old-MPV or use 3DYD Youtube Source with a DirectShow player. The startup times are long with these programs because they will download the video beforehand. And you need to update or reconfigure them when YouTube changes its formats. Add the browser extension Open With by Geoff Lankow to Firefox, to quickly call up a media player for a link. In a virtual machine you probably don't have hardware access for output like OpenGL or Overlay Mixer, which further decreases performance. Players may outright crash if they don't see a normal GPU. In SMPlayer there are several output options possible.

Have you tried any of the 360Chrome releases? Here is the download link to my v12 -- https://www.dropbox.com/s/2r7r53j4i55iuyw/360Chrome%2012.0.1247.zip Here is the download link to my v13rev3 -- https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyyimm3h58r3963/360Chrome%202206%20rebuild%203%20-%20unran%20-%20MSFN.zip Humming Owl's releases -- https://msfn.org/board/topic/182876-360-extreme-explorer-modified-version/ My v12 has been rock-solid for YouTube. I have TRIED to crash it by loading twenty YouTube videos with all twenty playing 720 and with all twenty having audio on. I have not been able to crash v12 no matter how hard I try. Most tests are performed in XP x64 with 16MB RAM but I have also tested in XP x86 with 4MB RAM with twelve YouTube videos.

Which browser is the best option to view YouTube (480p or lower resolution) within a VM? I am running some tests and of all browsers I tested, MyPal seems to run the smoothest in general but lags quite heavily on YouTube playback. The set-up used is Windows XP Professional SP3 32-bit (fully updated, except POSReady, did not look into that yet) with Certifcates updated (Cert_Updater_v1.6) running inside VirtualBox (Ubuntu) on a Intel Celeron N3350 (870MB RAM available for VM) MyPal 29.3.0 Loads YT regular version, struggles with video playback. Overall great performance for daily use BNavigator 32-bit (20-08 update) Crashes fully on YT load NewMoon 27 32-bit (20-08 update) Loads YT mobile website, cannot play video NewMoon 27 32-bit SSE (20-08 update) Loads YT mobile website, cannot play video, also seems to struggle with 'open link in New Tab' Serpent IA32 (20-08 update) Crashes fully on YT load, crashes on Eclipse.cx load Serpent NM28XP SSE (20-08 update) Crashes on opening I am relatively new to rediscovering the joy that is Windows XP and loving it so far, love the forum as well, I would like to get some more knowledge on what exactly the impact of SSE/NON-SSE and IA32 would be. I am looking for the fastest and most stable browser to use, preferably also being able to run YouTube. So far MyPal is working the best, but I am curious to expand and run more browsers :) If any additional info would help, feel free to request

Greetings, everyone...I hope my presence here will not be unwelcome. I have been following the happenings on this website with great happiness and excitement for many years. It is wonderful, as a longtime XP user, to see what many of this site's users have been able to accomplish in keeping it a viable OS long after many mainstream companies started leaving it for dead. For me, XP represents Windows' finest hour--while retaining remarkable compatibility with many legacy applications and older hardware, it is still modern enough to be amazingly reliable as a daily-use OS. Hassle-free installation, easy to customize and tweak to your liking, and built on mature, stable code...MS truly outdid themselves. I wasn't planning to say anything, but in light of recent events I felt compelled to speak my piece on the situation at hand, and of course I am speaking strictly as a sideline observer. First of all, I want to say that I have tremendous appreciation and the utmost respect for @roytam1 and @feodor2. Their programming knowledge and dedication to maintaining XP compatible forks of Basilisk and Pale Moon is admirable by any measure (and Roy's other browser projects, past and present, are also commendable). Though I have admittedly been sticking with Roy's Serpent52 weeklies, I have tested some of Feodor's MyPal and Centaury releases and always found them rock-solid...I didn't have a single problem with any of the builds that I tried. I'm not going to comment on Tobin personally, only the way that he and his peers have handled the circumstances involving Feodor. I do not believe they have approached it diplomatically or respectfully--it definitely seemed like there was (and is) malicious intent. From where I stand they are completely in the wrong to attack Feodor the way they have. At the same time it seems they were given a reason and opportunity to attack because (if my understanding is correct, and please forgive/correct me if I'm overlooking anything major) the source code was not available or easily accessible for every Centaury build going back to the earliest (whereas MyPal builds always have the source code for the corresponding build available and accessible). I don't hold it against Feodor at all, because for what it's worth Basilisk builds are not as clearly definable as Pale Moon ones since Basilisk is more of an experimental platform for UXP that also happens to double as a worthy successor to the Australis-era Firefox (whereas Pale Moon is the 'main event', the featured attraction). What's truly ironic to me is that Basilisk was created as a way to maintain the Australis interface and restore features eliminated from Firefox, while the same applies to Pale Moon (except it's the 4-28 interface). You would think that the Moonchild developers' dedication to sustaining all of these different elements after Mozilla deprecated them would translate into great enthusiasm for those who are trying to sustain compatibility with older OSes. I've never seen any of them say anything remotely nice about Roy or Feodor (please correct me if I'm wrong)--I'd think they would actually be quite impressed with how they got their officially 'incompatible' browsers fully functional in an OS they abandoned. Instead of showing respect, honoring their hard work and working with them to get the best out of these browsers and out of each other, they have dismissed them and expressed great disdain not only towards them but those who (like me) prefer XP over later versions of Windows. I will say this, however: I do have tremendous respect for the Moonchild team & the effort they've put into their browsers for so long. There are definitely a lot of talented coders over at MCP, and I wish them all the best for continued success because their browsers have helped to keep alive all of the old features that we appreciated back then, and can thankfully still appreciate and make use of now. But though their browsers are good, when they express toxicity/hatefulness of the sort that I've seen, it makes their character look bad. I realize that this message has gotten very long, so I'm going to wrap things up here. From the bottom of my heart, I offer my most sincere gratitude to Roy, Feodor, and everyone else who is working on XP related browser projects (shouts out to @Humming Owl on the 360Chrome builds, as well as @ArcticFoxie and @Dixel [who I know are also doing their own builds], and everyone else who is helping to keep XP useful for the Internet and anything else you could ever want to use it for!) I hope you'll all keep up the good work, and that you won't lose your passion for this great OS...long live XP, and God bless everyone! -cmccaff1

What Motherboard? What OS? Is this is a notebook? This details matter! I suggest you to tell us this information. Without it i can advise only check BIOS settings and update Chipset\USB 2.0 controller drivers.

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