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I have chosen to block Cocodile’s content, but from your quotation it appears that he has dredged up old privacy concerns about Avast that were of course discussed in another thread more than 3 years ago (MSFN wasn’t born yesterday, and AstroSkipper and I were both Avast users back then). To make a long story short, Avast halted the practice soon after it was widely publicized. Here’s a link that was first brought to our attention by @jaclaz, who I thank: https://www.pcmag.com/news/avast-to-end-browser-data-harvesting-terminates-jumpshot

Keep in mind 1 thing:

More like: "this exploit is also developed in Russia" LMAO Jokes aside, thanks for the info, but I don't really feel like using anything Russian made on my machine and I think it's the same for pretty much everyone here...

If you're worried about an NSA backdoor, it doesn't have one, don't worry. Besides, the XP version won't be updated anyway (aside from getting the virus definition updates), so we're safe even though now the company is no longer the one it used to be...

@MWF look https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/issues/218#issuecomment-1604600668 Shall plan to publish the new release upon next week. I did like a stress test on mypal 68.13. My pc is core2duo 8500 3.16 ghz, 3 gb ram, hardware accel is off - default value, multiporcesses are 3 for tabs, 1 for extension, 1 for rdd (5 at all - these are default), other settings also default. Also have extensions: ublock, decentrales, сanvasblock, xiaoxiaoflood userChromeJS and downthemall for firefox 68 3gb ram was filled at 30 tabs 15 youdube (one playing) and 15 aliexpress. No any crashes Was opening more tabs, 20 at all 10 for yt and 10 for ali What i notices are freezings and slowdowns when i switch tabs, many windows about "script not responding" where i pushed continue, after all it was still usable. Finally i have closed the browser with all 50 tabs, it has not closed at once though, takes a minute while and closed all successfully. By the way name the most heavy site you know, for me it is yotube. IN CONCLUSION I suggest to leave settings on their default values, toggle ones only if you well know what they do and why, especially do not forcefully turn acceleration, webgl and other grafics stuff, it still remains broken on winxp.

While i was downloading Windows XP updates from the Microsoft Update Catalog, i realized this task could be done much faster. For that reason, i decided to make a PowerShell script for batch downloading updates from a list, featuring filters for language, NT version and architecture. I'm aware there is already another GUI application with a similar purpose, but you might find this one more fitting for your context as it has some key differences, such as: - Focused on simplicity. Command-line operation only - Script available under a permissive license (Unlicense) - Code and its functioning is commented and documented to its best. Take a look at the code to learn how it works. - It can run natively on Linux, even on a Raspberry Pi - A function lets you download the details page in HTML format for each update, ready for offline read I've made it available both on my website and GitHub: https://github.com/blueclouds8666/msupdate-dl http://neonfloppy.sytes.net/projects/msupdate-dl/ Let me know if you found it useful, I'll be listening feedback to improve the script if needed.

Hello @Cocodile! I have actually had similar experiences. Avast had always been a performance brake in my old PC. It is a terribly bloated programme package. When I tried to uninstall it a few months ago, the uninstall routine failed completely. Here you can read what I had to go through: I had similar problems with Eset NOD32 Antivirus.

And now for those who use, the old, long abandoned Avast Antivirus Free 18.8, which is the last compatible version for Windows XP. It's not only insecure, it is very bloated, slowing down computers, I had a terrible experience with it on my XP era notebook Toshiba Satellite A50 it was not possible to uninstall it, so I had to reformat the HDD using the original DVD for my XP system. Their own "tool" failed to do it and glitched out the whole PC to the point of no return! Is there any other AV which fails to even uninstall easily? https://forums.tomsguide.com/threads/solved-avast-is-impossible-to-uninstall-solved.443038/

Asking Kaspersky whether his competitor Avast is safe. Nice joke! I will soon ask the chef of a restaurant I visit if his food is good.

Did the March 6 version install successfully for you?

this is what Google and others do every single day. nothing is for free. Avast background services can't be disabled by any means.

you can't compare a software utility from a large company tied to the KREMLIN to amateur projects that work perfectlly well on XP I don't think every russian made tool out there is utilized as an ''exploit'' https://github.com/dragokas/hijackthis

I do not like it much either, there are still plenty of 32bit Windows, I have even see several 32 bit Win10 laptops that were not up-gradable to 64 bit because of UEFI BIOS. So in the end I think there are more 32bit windows than Linux desktops. Even if all AMD/Intel CPUs have been 64bit since the early 2000s... Also I always saw the duality or architectures as a free sanitizer, you would be surprised on how many subtle bugs can be found by just building and testing in both 64bit and 32bit. There were a lot of buggy 32 bit programs that were hard to port to 64bit and now I see random programs that have a ton of warning simply when you build them for 32bit and some of them cannot even work. Bad coding habits still exist but have just migrated from :"I assume my CPU is 32bit so int == void* and stuff" to "I know my CPU is 64bit so uint64_t == void* and stuff". Windows 10 will be supported until 2025 (and possibly beyond), so dropping 32bit support is very strange because it is still maintained by Microsoft.

"Avast antivirus subsidiary sells 'Every search. Every click. Every buy. On every site.' Its clients have included Home Depot, Google, Microsoft, Pepsi, and McKinsey." "An antivirus program used by hundreds of millions of people around the world is selling highly sensitive web browsing data to many of the world's biggest companies, a joint investigation by Motherboard and PCMag has found." https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjdkq7/avast-antivirus-sells-user-browsing-data-investigation

What's 7-zip? I never heard of it before, and I can't find it in any AntiVirus software list?

Thank you! That's all one would need to know about Russian "security" software! I really appreciate your advice and will make sure to avoid that programme in the future! With such members like you, who are open-minded and always ready to show the truth, the World will hear the warnings!

guys, new release mypal68 from feodor2 is here, what feodor2 done is fix title bar for xp with luna theme any other themes, and classic theme, not only that, it will also fix windows vista basic title bar as well: https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/releases/tag/68.13.1b

you need 4.3.12. https://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/paintdotnet-portable#download_details

@Milkinis I say all things no matter how they optimized on the any pc begin to freeze and slowdown when all RAM is occupied, furthermore many things wil just crash for no more free memory. You name best optimized browser and try do the same then tell how it was.

May it help winxp sp2 user too? I think 78 is not needed already And what about single process mode? In fox91 Mozilla was close to completing so called Project fission, what very incompatible with single process

Thanks for the information! Good to know! BTW, I never had any BSODs. I am using Mypal 68 in single-process mode, though.

@windows2 It is easy to put 5.0 instead 5.1, i can do this. Actually i wonder how you made it work on win2000, if others tell it is not going to work on winxp sp2, and even if they managed to launch it they got bsod everytime. New goal is to resolve bsod problem

May be you know why even not 78 but 79 I have overrided minstrictversion to 79 for the fun, and latest ublock 49.2 seems works fine

Nicely put ! May I steal it ? I mean, copy/paste .

You should ! I think you chose the wrong profession , career opportunities only for a certain kind. 1198 % of CEOs in global tech are of Indian origin ! Diversity in action ! Alphabet (Parent Company of Google) - Sundar Pichai Amazon - Rah Gaya Twitter- Parag Agarwal -- IIT Bombay Google - Sundar Pichai -- IIT Kharagpur IBM - Arvind Krishna -- IIT Kanpur Microsoft - Satya Nadella Adobe- Shantanu Narayen VMWare - Raghu Raghuram Vimeo - Anjali Sud Thomas Kurian- Google Cloud George Kurian- NetApp Nikesh Arora- Palo Alto Networks Nitanix - Rajiv Ramaswami Vimeo - Anjali Sud Simp - Parag Agarwal Barclays : C. S. Venkatakrishnan MasterCard : Ajay Banga Ajay Banga - Mastercard*(currently) Nutanix - Rajiv Ramaswamy DBS - Piyush Goyal Palo Alto Networks - Nikesh Arora Jayshree Ullal Arista Networks HCL -Shiv Nadar NetApp - George Kurien Google Cloud - Thomas Kurien PepsiCo - Indra Nooyi (2006) Great Khali for WWE Pepsi ex - Indra Nooyi Novartis (ex Sandoz) - Vasant Narasimhan Of course this is only just a small list , but : Do you see a Finn in this list ?

@XPerceniol, 3GB is obviously not enough for the "modern" web. MSFN is getting heavier and heavier each day for me too , I also noticed lags when typing in reply windows or creating new topics . All those flags you're trying to add are already included in my version , this one also , of course ! They are just inside , the "ini" file is inside , so you can't see it . Did you try MSFN with my version ? Don't forget to start it from the red "O" icon.

Yep , thought so , but honestly I think it has nothing to do with our pretty similar quad CPUs , I'll try to test with a Pentium for that exact socket , which I recently bought for 5 euros , lol. I will test with the same amount of RAM (DDR3 16GB).

Geez , coders these days .... a couple gigs of super fast DDR3 RAM just to read some text !

He's right , v13 (any version from the 13th series) is very RAM hungry . If I open one (1) page at MSFN , let's say the main page , it uses way over 1GB of RAM ! I have only basic extensions , like uBlock and dark mode. If I add noscript and the such , it will go even higher . If I allow ads on MSFN (which I sometimes do) , it may go up to 1.5 GB and even more ! On the other hand , those other old versions are obsolete . Can't do shopping with them. Slow youtube , terrible scrolling at IG and Twitter. Again , v.13 works cool , but you gotta have 16GB of RAM , or 8 (bare minimum). P.S. Wanted to be clear , 1 - 1.5 GB for the browser alone , not the whole system. The system would be at 3-3.5 or something like that.

@IXOYE is right , I have the same problem . It reverts back to the russian or chinese squares . Dixel's method works , but it can revert back again sometimes . @NotHereToPlayGames , any way to hardcode it into the browser ?

Yep , that's because he made his version from a russian repack , so you need to switch from russian to be able to view with normal fonts/language . Here's how to do it , this image is from the russian website where he got his version . https://www.upload.ee/image/13076295/360ee.gif

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