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Here is the future of Chromium on Windows 7: https://github.com/win32ss/supermium I have been closely tracking the many changes made to Chromium since November 2022, made with the intent of dropping support for Windows 7 and 8.x. As of version 111, it became very difficult to keep the newest versions running on Vista with the extended kernel; shared memory allocation changes made it impossible to do so as subtle changes to the API (which were done in kernel mode) prevented stable operation of the browsers. So I decided to build my own Chromium. I discovered that a further change was made to the shared memory allocation which broke it even further; the successor to mojo, IPCZ, was forced on by default. It only works properly with Windows 8.1+'s shared memory API. I disabled IPCZ for pre-8.1 and this made the sandbox work again on Vista and 7. Perhaps I will see exactly why IPCZ is broken (from the Windows API level) and try to fix it for the next release. The only win32 API link I can find is CreateFileMappingW, which I need to test with an IPCZ-enabled build on both 8 and 8.1 to see what makes it fail.

The YouTube "version" is not the same as the version posted by AstroSkipper. YouTube's is .1099. AstroSkipper's is .1109.

This is not a politics forum. Stay on topic please.

That was in 2021. I’m not sure how it could affect Windows XP diehards using a 2018 version of Avast. 🤔

No, this is not acceptable. Don't bring it up again.

Avast Free Antivius 2015 (last version for SSE only CPUs): This version is the last compatible version of Avast Free Antivirus for Windows XP running on a computer with a CPU that does not have more than the SSE instruction set. It still receives definition updates on a regular base. Features: Datasheet: http://files.avast.com/files/marketing/materials/datasheets/en/v2015/avast_free_2015_en.pdf Homepage: https://web.archive.org/web/20151004232841/https://www.avast.com/index Version number: 10.4.2233.1299 Date of release: 17.09.2015 System requirements: Windows XP (with at least SP2), Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10 in both the 32- and 64-bit variant. Pentium 3 processor or higher with 128 MB RAM and 2 GB of hard-drive space. Test: https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/windows-10/october-2015/avast-free-antivirus-2015-153713/ Review: https://tecoreviews.com/reviews/avast-free-antivirus-2015-review/ Download links: Offline installer: https://www.afterdawn.com/software/security/antivirus/avast_free.cfm/2015__10_4_2233_ or https://www.filepuma.com/download/avast_free_antivirus_10.4.2233-9698/ Avast VPS update for versions 9 to 11: https://install.avcdn.net/ivps9x/vpsupd.exe Screenshots: I listed here Avast Free Antivius 2015 only for all owners of a very old computer whose CPU lacks of SSE2 and up. The program itself is very old, but Avast still rolls out regularly definition updates online and offline for this version. Kind regards, AstroSkipper

%Localappdata%\Microsoft\Event Viewer\ ? (That's on Win7, it might be the same on 10.) GL

Any info about wise vector x?

Yes, the location is the same on Windows 8.1 too, but, we are talking about Windows 10. And by the way, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 aren't exactly the same in functionality, there are difference between 8.1 and 10.

I promise to be polite, educated, and generally normal, like yerself. I stand corrected and in penance: you obviously don't know your own s***. Also your cybersecurity knowledge is not up to date, as you are alerting us about 6 year old problems you later tell us have not been an issue since. I'm wery sowy for not having stated that with much more clarity before. In the meanwhile, and back on topic: very please, and with sugar on top, take notice of where are you writing and for what purpose.

I downloaded nothing. It's a picture uploaded by @bluebolt. And there is unfortunately no timestamp of the downloaded definition files visible in the GUI.

I myself would not go by the "last updated" date in the GUI but rather look at timestamp info for the definitions file. I only say that because we can't rule out that what you downloaded "today" and thusly reported by the GUI as "last updated" is actually an OLD definition database. Not sure how to verify that, but just saying it is "possible".

I said this before, but I will say it again: win32, you're a legend! It's been a long time since your last great contribution here in this topic. I'm glad you're back. Thank you so much for your contributions, keep it up!

have to turn on test signing

Avast Internet Security and Avast Premier All features of Avast Free Antivirus which are listed in the post are of course included in Avast Internet Security and Avast Premier. Both versions are commercial. Additional features are: Firewall, Anti-spam, Real Site, Ransomware Shield, Sandbox, Data Shredder (only in Premier) and Webcam Shield (only in Premier). Comparison of Avast Security programs in form of a table: Homepage of Avast Internet Security: https://web.archive.org/web/20181120211012/https://www.avast.com/internet-security Homepage of Avast Premier: https://web.archive.org/web/20181120211119/https://www.avast.com/premier Version number: 18.8.4084.0 Date of release: 15.11.2018 System Requirements: A PC with 256 MB+ RAM and 1.5 GB of hard disk space. Avast Antivirus is compatible with Windows 11, 10, 8.1, 8, 7, Vista, XP SP3. Download links: Online installers: https://install.avcdn.net/av/avast/iavs9x/avast_internet_security_setup_online.exe https://install.avcdn.net/av/avast/iavs9x/avast_premier_antivirus_setup_online.exe Offline installers: https://install.avcdn.net/iavs9x-xp/avast_internet_security_setup_offline.exe https://install.avcdn.net/iavs9x-xp/avast_premier_antivirus_setup_offline.exe Avast Uninstall Utility (Avast Clear) in the correct version of 18.8.4084.0: https://web.archive.org/web/20181116091922if_/http://iavs9x.avg.u.avcdn.net/iavs9x/avastclear.exe How to uninstall Avast using Avast Clear: Sometimes it's not possible to uninstall Avast the standard way using the Add/Remove Programs in control panel. In this case, you can use the uninstallation utility Avast Clear: Download avastclear.exe on your desktop. Start Windows in Safe Mode. Execute the avastclear.exe. If you installed Avast in a different folder than the default, browse for it. (Note: Be careful! The content of any folder you choose will be deleted!). Click REMOVE. Restart your computer. Screenshots: All I wrote in my article about Avast Free Antivirus also applies to Avast Internet Security and Avast Premier. Very good protection but very bloated. They are definitely options for Windows XP, but I personally can't and won't recommend them here due to my reservations and experiences from the past as I already wrote in the post about Avast Free Antivirus. Kind regards, AstroSkipper

Thanks for the tip.

I can search for that post instead if you want. Do you at least remember in what topic was that post at?

https://www.catsxp.com/ OS: Win7+ Ver：3.5.2 Kernel：113.0.5672.86 Update：2023-05-03 20:20:38

have to follow WaterfoxClassic here and it is workarounded for now. https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55/commit/ef905bceeccc41328613c0a831a52e99d5541a9c

Not this thread but on the other one, I wonder if a "poll" would be helpful? I'm thinking more along the lines of removing any bias and sticking with undeniable hard-core data. If the "poll" voted by all MSFN Members following the thread has Kaspersky in the top 3 or 5 or so, then we should use real data to assist MSFN Members to use it or not. I'd be willing to run the top 3 or 5 or so and do "quantitative analysis" (in a VM only!) for hard-core data, which consumes more RAM, which scans a 20 MB reference .zip file the fastest, which slows the install of an Office Suite the slowest, which effects PC Startup Time the most, numbers like that are important to me.

Your profile shows that you are running Windows 8.1 this week, in which case the good news is that Malwarebytes still supports Windows 7 and above, i.e. you are not restricted to using 5-year-old version 3.5.1. Not only that, but Malwarebytes 4.x versions have scored better in independent tests! I never realized that you were a fan of Malwarebytes. As recently as January 16 you stated, “I’ve never used anything else accept avast.” Then you puzzled me by stating on March 9 that “panda is definitely the better choice...and has been my go to antivirus for the past year now”!? Looks like no one has posted in the Windows 8 forum since April 19, so perhaps you could try to liven things up over there? 🤔

... Well, according to below support article, last reviewed on Aug 13, 2019, min WinOS version targeting KAV19 is Windows 7 Starter SP0 : https://support.kaspersky.com/KAV/2019/en-US/43520.htm It's totally unknown to me whether KAV19 could be installed on Vista SP2 (let alone on XP SP3) 32-bit, provided all the rest software/hardware requirements were met (and there were several ) ; still, I have a very faint recollection of someone posting back then in the Vista subforums, claiming to be running KAF19 (Kaspersky Antivirus Free 19) under Vista (but NOT XP!), but am too tired now to search for that post, sorry ...

@mina7601. I can move and re-size my windows taskbar. Maybe it's some utility I installed but I could have sworn you can do this with OEM Windows 11. EDIT, oh so I see it's changed in Windows 22H2 build. But there are registry hacks that can modify the taskbar: https://www.alphr.com/move-taskbar-windows-11/

Although this thread is actually only targeting the Windows XP operating system, I have nevertheless added the necessary system requirements to my articles in which I present security programs, in order to let our fans of Windows Vista in particular know whether the program in question is compatible with this operating system or not. Cheers, AstroSkipper

You might try again with the most recently posted version (2023.05.06) dynamic module imports were added to JS, so there's at least a chance That is incorrect. MITM will trigger a browser warning and DPI cannot decrypt packets encrypted with modern TLS ciphers. Please quit spreading misinformation.

It’s quite a relief to me that you have treated Avast fairly even though you are embarked on a quest to find something better. (Good luck with your quest, but I’m still not convinced there is anything better for XP/Vista.) In fact you overstated the features of Avast Free 18.8 in your first paragraph: As your “Protection” screenshot shows, those features are locked in Avast Free, although I’m sure you had them with Avast Premier. (Malwarebytes Premium includes Ransomware Protection, but unfortunately that feature is inactive on XP/Vista. )

Win7 will never be abandonware as long as Microsoft exists. Abandonware is to be products that have an abandoned license or copyright, and has nothing to do with whether a product is actively being sold or supported. I personally don't care about the Thorium website, or the developer, or the browser, or warez, or whatever else. The forum has rules about what can be posted about and what is directly linked to, and this is only because in the past we have received complains and nasty letters from lawyers about things. So we don't allow those types of posts as a measure to protect the forum from disappearing entirely. And sure, you don't need to point out the gray area that exists with the rules, with regards to extended kernels or updates (updates are the big thing really) so let's hope MS continues to not care about those things so we can still talk about them here.

D.Draker - we are on the same page on this one, "personality conflicts" aside. Honestly, we really are. But as I read kar1's comments, I have to agree with him as well. There is a "fine line" and it is all "relative" (or is "subjective" a better word?) on just when and where that line is crossed. I am not trying to go off-topic and it is kind of all tied together. For one, the future of Chrome on Win7 is likely (I reiterate "likely", this is purely speculative) going to follow the lead of what the XP Crowd has been doing since Chrome abandoned XP. ie, one or two years behind. There is decompiling, recompiling, backporting, debug, dependency checks, trial-and-error, et cetera - "software doesn't write itself". Will that workflow "work" for the Win7 Crowd? Only time will tell. It is all "speculative" as soon as the word "future" enters the scene. There is also "intended audience" if this Future Chrome on Win7 is going to gain true traction. What I perceive a "car" to be in the future may very well differ from what you perceive a "car" to be in the future - it's all speculative... and subjective... Secondly, I propose that we have to view the previously-mentioned browser and in turn the previously-mentioned web site the same way we (MSFN) views Extended Kernels. I guarantee that Microsoft does not view an Extended Kernel in the same way that the end-consumer views an Extended Kernel. And unless I'm mistaken, even MSFN Forum Rules do not allow "links" to Extended Kernels (I could be wrong on this, this falls back on "intended audience" and I do not use Extended Kernels nor follow those MSFN Threads). But MSFN does allow us all to use the phrase "extended kernel" even though it may be indexed by search engines. You see how that "fine line" comes into play? Does the Future of Chrome on Win7 force the intended audience to utilize an Extended Kernel? Or will traction only be gained by giving in to the demands of the Vanilla Win7 Crowd and the Future of Chrome on Win7 not require an Extended Kernel? Only time will tell... And have a great day, my friend, and note that I strived to word this reply without triggering any "personality conflicts"

I advise you to remove the main website link for Thorium. A moderator "pointed me" with a "permanent" point for posting that link in the past.

Ah. It will have to be someone else. I've seen enough in the code to see it's not my next project.

Easily disabled. Before: After: It's also disabled in 360Chrome but this could also be v86 versus v112, I did not dig that deep. Though if it is of any consolation, SRWare Iron and Opera both do the "Not A Brand" thing also, just like Catsxp:

With limited testing on v112.3.4.3, the only time I witness any odd connections is when "secure DNS" is enabled - making me NOT TRUST this so-called "secure" DNS. It is better to set up your Operating System to use "secure DNS" than it is to rely on any web browser to perform that task for you, once that is "embedded" into the web browser, it can make ANY connection it wants to! There are some embedded "always accept cookies" web sites but I've not seen them create cookies so long as you do not visit those web sites. The embedded list is easily removable in chrome.dll - but I'm left with an "empty" web site instead of a none-added note, so still investigating.

It has already been discussed before:

Hello, I have many problems with your new version of the extended kernel. I used the one from October 2022 and no worries and I tried the one from March 2023 and a lot of problems appeared. I made a video to make it easier to see. https://youtu.be/BmPZTJX18sE

I checked again, and it seems that it's due to an issue that is specific to my GPU where it takes several minutes to initialize the OpenGL user mode driver. I asked for confirmation of this issue from other users, but no one else got it. But I do believe it may be related to the extended kernel, so I will fix it.

Hi @TechActivate 781, hello from Belgium and welcome to MSFN! I wish you to enjoy the forums! Have a nice day. hpwamr

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IE is no longer useful for web browsing. Old intranet stuff would likely not even benefit from IE10/11. But IE10/11 do have some limited uses in non-browsing situations; the license authentication for Autodesk products may still use it (but you can spoof IE10 in Group Policy and run it anyway), and the installer for Adobe CC products has used IE since 2015 or 17. Even the authentication component of Chromium Edge requires IE11. But I suspect these applications will have moved on from IE once I have implemented all the "black box" functions and "black box" function flags to existing functions that would make these newer browsers or at least rendering engines work. Also, I think it's hypocritical of Adobe to still depend on IE when they made such a big fuss over discontinuing their Flash players and timebombing the final versions.

Hi @spongebob, hello from Belgium and welcome to MSFN! I wish you to enjoy the forums! Have a nice day. hpwamr

That's a pity, not gonna lie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpongeBob_SquarePants @spongebob Welcome to MSFN, btw!

Welcome, Bob ... hope you find our forum helpful. Yeah, you do gave a good username there. Take good care.. -Sal