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I decided to look into this AV: Long story short, I am pleased with it and have not seen such a lightweight AV in a long, long time. As said before this post, it is of Chinese origin. This does raise the concern of telemetry, as many Chinese programs are known to be chock-full of it (Maxthon, 360Chrome, etc.) However, I definitely didn't want to just assume anything, so I did some research. To my delight, it seems surprisingly void of telemetry. Of course, this point in particular is thoroughly covered in the posting directly above mine, but for the sake of a full review, I've reiterated it. This analysis comes, of course, from the thread at the Wilders Security Forums: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/wisevector-stop-x.431502/ (by the way, that's a great thread for all sorts of delving into this program.) The program has settings for fine-tuning the protection to your exact needs and desires. The English in the program is very good, with no remnants of Chinese text in sight. As to the user interface, it is modern-ish and very minimalist, which is disappointing but expected for basically any modern AV. It supports skinning, which is...odd. But options are always welcome, of course! I cannot speak exactly to its detection performance, but on my HP Compaq 6200 Pro with XP x64 (8GB RAM, i3-2100) NO performance hit while doing everyday tasks with real-time protection enabled was observed. I do not usually use real-time protection on my machines, but for the sake of testing today I did. Similarly, nothing was noticed when performing a full system scan and continuing use of the system during the scan. While scanning, it was using approximately 90-150MB of RAM. Certainly a very competitive if not outright better figure than any other modern AV. CPU usage was observed to be around 25-30%. Unsure if it is capped there or if it was simply not able to pull files from the disk any faster. All in all: A surprisingly good and surprisingly lightweight AV supporting real-time scanning.

You may also consider substituting the XP-incompatible openssl 1.1.1.x files with XP-compatible ones, like I advised for SUMo previously in this thread: Not tested here (XP is unavailable) ... BTW, the latest openssl 1.1.1 official release now is at version 1.1.1k (file versions 1.1.1.11)

I see on many, many forums, such as r/windows, the Microsoft discord and even the Linus Tech Tips forums where people mention using 7 or so nowadays and people lose their minds, breaking out in cyber arguments about if its a good or bad idea to keep using them. So I have a question. Why do so many people just have problems about older operating systems? As well as that, how many real-people would actually say if 7 or 10 is better? Most of my family says 7 is a lot better. Even a lot of my friends say 7 is better than 10.

I just realized it is possible to use zoom (as in videoconference) in XP. You can donwload the installer at https://zoom.us/download, which is Client v. 5.6.3 for newer windows, 5.0.2 for XP. It is not portable [creates a c:\users\yourname\appdata], but you can extract ZoomInstallerXP.exe, and then unzip the folder "ZoomFull.cab". You can then move the contents of the "bin" subfolder (inside the extracted ZoomFull folder), to a directory of your choice, and adapt the reg file below with your path. Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\FeatureControl\FEATURE_BROWSER_EMULATION] "Zoom.exe"=dword:00002af8 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\.zoommtg] @="ZoomLauncher" "Content Type"="application/x-zoommtg-launcher" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\ZoomLauncher] @="Zoom Launcher - 3.0.1" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\ZoomLauncher\shell\open\command] @="\"C:\\Internet\\Network\\Zoom.exe\" \"--url=%1\"" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\MIME\Database\Content Type\application/x-zoommtg-launcher] "Extension"=".zoommtg" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\Post Platform] "Zoom 3.6.0"="" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\zoommtg] @="URL:Zoom Launcher" "URL Protocol"="" "UseOriginalUrlEncoding"=dword:00000001 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\zoommtg\DefaultIcon] @="\"C:\\Internet\\Network\\Zoom.exe\",1" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\zoommtg\shell\open\command] @="\"C:\\Internet\\Network\\Zoom.exe\" \"--url=%1\"" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ProtocolExecute\zoommtg] "WarnOnOpen"=dword:00000000 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Low Rights\ElevationPolicy\{AFDA28A5-1B5F-4635-9877-73DF0D710C9A}] "AppName"="Zoom.exe" "AppPath"="C:\\Internet\\Network" "Policy"=dword:00000003 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\ZoomRecording] @="Zoom Recording File" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\ZoomRecording\DefaultIcon] @="\"C:\\Internet\\Network\\Zoom.exe\",0" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\ZoomRecording\shell\open\command] @="\"C:\\Internet\\Network\\zTscoder.exe\" \"%1\"" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\.zoom] @="ZoomRecording" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\MUICache] "LangID"=hex(3):09,04 "C:\\Internet\\Network\\Zoom.exe"="Zoom Meetings"

I think I did this, but i'll check if this is still disabled. I wouldn't say 2003, I would say 2012 R2. 2012 R2 finally added UEFI to HyperV and Microsoft finally started getting marketshare in the virtualization world. I would not use Hyper-V before 2012 R2 because its just too feature-less.

some peoples does that even on enterprise environments and it caused headache to me few times. All systems with in domain messed up thanks to someone accepting not even neccessary feature update on wsus server that broke start menu on all systems.

People just repeat what they are told and this is especially true if they do not fully understand how something works. The root of this comes from sales pitches from companies from years ago. Even old versions of Windows have had advertisements like "most secure ever" which implies the predecessor is not secure once the new version comes out. Also people conflate installing updates or the ability to get new updates with security. They know some bad thing happened to someone online and there is an update, and if you have the update you will be protected from that thing. But people do not actually look at what the update is, or the CVE or anything like that. They have no idea whether or not the update even has anything to do with their operating environment or how they use their system. This is why I never understand people who just go an install all of the updates, or worse, brag about installing all of the updates. No one needs all those updates, but people will just put them all in there anyways because it is easier than learning how their computer or OS actually works and being able to determine which updates they actually need.

I'm still feeling determined.

You are supposed to install the older OS first (vista) Make sure you install it on a MBR partitioned drive what are your pc specs?

Thanks. Need test it and I report back results with software

I actually have. From passmark scores that I did on 7, 8.1, and 10 2004: 7 was the best for CPU, 2nd best for RAM usage, worst for disk usage, and 2nd for graphics. 8.1 was the best for graphics, 2nd best for CPU, and best for RAM usage. 8.1 had the best overall score. 10 was the worst in pretty much everything else. Only thing that can redeem itself is the better program compatibility. In my case, the only thing that 10 gives me is that running a billion windows open at once runs laggy on 7 with Aero transparency enabled. Aero was a little bit of a hog even though it looked really nice. Probably the problems with 8 and newer is that Microsoft stopped caring about it, and just started piling more stuff onto it. Thats why I call it, Inconsistency Hell. Sad to see that the days of consistency are numbered now. Use whatever works for you. I don't care if you use MS-DOS, Me or Vista. I use 7 and 10 because those are the two that i'm used to.

DVBViewer Pro (view IPTV or TV trough tuner card on computer) latest version (7.0.2.0 in writing this) still works on xp with one tweak. On startup you will get error from bcrypt.dll missing but it will start just fine. Bcrypt.dll was on vista and newer. To get around in delete libssl-1_1.dll and libcrypto-1_1.dll on DVBViewer directory and it will fallback to older mehtod (not fully sure which). All features (Weather, RSS, Capture TV, tuning, IR remote control, games) seems work fine. Only thing I cannot say is if CI card used to paid channels works on latest since wont have one. Update: download this and replace libssl-1_1.dll and libcrypto-1_1.dll on DVBViewer directory. Those are XP compatible versions of files and All dvbviewer online features (addon downloader, weather, rss feeds) works without issue. Thanks to @VistaLover for the tip

I agree completely - many thanks to MSFN and developers like @roytam1 (as well as other developers here) that work hard at what they do PS: I also use an old LG Flip Phone and I've no intention to buy a smart phone.

They lack critical thinking ability and blindly believe that newer is better.

"Because Windows <number of latest windows version here> is way better and works perfectly on me compared windows <number of any previous windows version> and you are just scared of new things and move on and wont understand from security at all" that same response been used since windows 98 rolled out with it bloated ie4 desktop and many did not like it as response to peoples who used windows 95, then when win98 and 98se and ME got eol and xp and 2k were more mainstream same started again. Soon 2k neared eol and same started insist to it, then xp eol and same argument started again. Same response been out now over 20 years because newer must be better to some. For most basic users there has not been notable changes in windows since 95, most notable changes are to power users like me. Windows 98 was windows 95 with ie4 and active desktop, Windows ME was rebranded Windows 98 with few ui changes and usb driver and dos mode removed. Windows 2000 was real improved due usb and NTFS. Windows XP was polished Windows 2000 expect improved compability to legacy applications, new management features and few others that mattered me and of course Iiked new themes it could support. Windows vista was originally developed around Server 2003 and had some improvements mostly to 64bit support while remaining decent compability. Windows 7 was polished windows vista sp2 with few under hood changes. Any Windows version after that forgot all good UI design guidelines by forcing beginner mobile ui to desktop pc. Most peoples just believe what Microsoft and media says them from Millions of hackers attacking to every old Windows version out there and also see no issue upgrade since all they do is play few new AAA titles, watch cat videos on chrome and got no legacy apps used. I say best is to ignore them. Lot peoples do not like anything old technology since believe those are bad compared new ones. I am using oldshcool nokia phone from 2003 (6600) and peoples think it is stupid and insecure and how hackers will hijack it but I do not care. It can make calls and got 40.3kbp/s mobile data incase need plus can swap battery myself (unlike on new ones). Same said from me running windows 7 and xp instead of "teh latest and greatest windows 10" but I use it anyway since can do all type of modern things on it thanks to this board and it developers (newmoon, mailnews etc.). Someday peoples will hopefully realise the facts on that newer is not always better

probably microsoft advertised windows 10 so much that it stuck and is now the only windows anyone thinks about anymore as the Supreme os

Windows 10 is probably staying for a lot longer than that. I hope Linux becomes a better alternative by then, but knowing how Linux came around in the desktop OS world after Windows already monopolized the hell outta the OS world, I wouldn't count on it.

Guys I have to thank every one of you. I upgraded the ram to 4gb. Replaced old spinning hdd with 500gb ssd samsung 860 evo. Reinstalled windows 7 but remained at 64bit flavor. GUYS this laptop has never been so fast like it is now. It boots up under 20 seconds. Websites are snappy (well snappy considering this cpu) and for 2-3 tabs in browser it is more than enough. Before windows 7 I tried vista again on that ssd, but it kept bluescreening with dpc watchdog violation. Mom is happy with 7 though so it is not a problem at all. Again HUGE thanks to everyone that helped and suggested actually good things.

I suppose there are places on earth where such an assumption would be both logical and humorous. I mean I own a fast Vista tower with multicore processor. No real reason to shut it down frequently, hence not overly concerned about startup time. Have SP2 and all recommended updates, Superfetch enabled, and do not wish to become a topic of discussion here.

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You mean you stole it? jaclaz P.S.: I guess that with this I will enter the list of people not allowed to quote your posts

Late. Came across a HAM Radio receiver and wanted to check it out and hear some. Couldn't hear anything local near me. Only thing I have a chance at hearing is the ISS. HAM Radio doesn't seem as popular as it used to be.