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Otter v1.0.81[weekly300-xp] uses OpenSSL 1.0.2o, so that fact alone empowers it with support for a plethora of cipher suites (and TLS versions); not only a great number of cipher suites are already enabled by default, you can also add additional ones (out of the many OpenSSL supports): However, the xp (and Vista) compatible package (compiled with QT 5.6.2) uses gstreamer as the media backend; because of patented decoders (h264, aac) licence issues, the distributed binaries lack support for h264 decoding and this is a deal-breaker for me in today's media-rich web; the Win7+ packages are compiled with a higher QT version (5.13.1, requires Win7+) which comes with support for the native WMF framework (present in Vista+), enabling access to OS provided patented decoders; to cut a long story short, Otter v1.0.81 on XP/Vista will load fine cote.co.uk, but won't play the background video... The reason Opera 36/XP doesn't, also, play the background video is quite similar; the browser (unlike Chrome 49) doesn't come bundled with a h264 decoder, the OS has to provide that through WMF; but, as you know already, XP lacks WMF . FTR, Opera 36/VistaSP2 does load the site and does play the background video... Best regards

@caliber, I say this with sincerity and kindness, but I think it might be best if you just leave this alone and stick with XP as it is for now. I don't think you are quite ready to try to use any of the PAE patches or make any other complicated changes to the OS yet. I'm not trying to insult you in any way, but you probably need to do a lot of reading and experimenting on a smaller scale for a while before you tackle anything of this magnitude. You need to learn how to execute command line programs, etc. When you previously pointed out the use of the Russian patch I thought you were further along, but now it seems you are currently only at the "point and click" level, so if, or when, you get into trouble you will have no way to get yourself out of it. If I have misunderstood your level of expertise I apologize, but that is how you are coming across. It's nothing to be ashamed of, we all started that way, but I think you need to do some reading. @Dibyais young and was fairly recently at your level himself (he knows how I respect how much he has learned and progressed in a relatively short time) so he might be able to give you some pointers. Cheers and Regards

32-bit: http://web.archive.org/web/20181026103325/https://downloadmirror.intel.com/20758/a08/GFX_Win7_32_8.15.10.2761.exe 64-bit: http://web.archive.org/web/20180202165350/https://downloadmirror.intel.com/20758/a08/GFX_Win7_64_8.15.10.2761.exe

@msfntor I use UXP build, not Moebius bulid. Anyway, will check. Update: I just checked and confirm, it works on Serpent 52/ UXP build from Roytam1 :)

Imagine that it wants some parameters on command line. How would you pass them to it? You know like *any* command line tool that expects parameters you could open a command prompt, navigate to the directorywhere the .exe is and then type on the command line the name of the .exe, in this case WINXPPAE,EXE and press [ENTER]. Maybe then it won't close in half a second ... jaclaz

@VistaLover This is off-topic, but there is a workaround for Otter to get YouTube and Facebook videos working on XP. You need to download this - https://otter-browser.org/tmp/otter-browser-xp2.zip Then you need to copy the "Lib" folder over from that version to the current version. I did that ages ago, and it still works. See this thread for more detail.

And - you know - when some time later I bought a RAM expansion kit ( a so-called RAM-Pack) for the ZX81: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM_pack taking the memory from 1 KB to 16 KB, thus I could run "very complex" programs, and I had to make a wooden support for the computer and pack to avoid the "wobble" problem, there were already rumours of (at an extremely steep price) an expansion up to 64 KB! You may now understand, how nowadays that Mega/Giga/Tera bytes are considered peanuts I still have preferences for small, tiny programs. jaclaz

Even though it has been suggested that it might just be that the restaurant is for discerning customers only, I thought that this site's behavior was very bizarre. I figured that no restaurant would want to exclude any potential customers, even if it only excluded those still using IE11, which admittedly might not be a bad decision. In my mind, this was a fault in the programming of the site. So unless the "missing" cipher suites, that Win 10 supports, are added to Win 7 and Win 8.1, this problem will continue to occur, because lazy site programmers will continue to exist, and will probably grow in number. Of course, those of us who never use IE if at all possible, and instead use a legitimate browser, might never run into the issue, but I think it is still worth knowing about. And I think it would be a good thing if all of the TLS and PSK cipher suites that Win 10 supports could be added to Win 7 and Win 8.1, if possible. TLS Cipher Suites in Windows 7 shows how to select the order of the cipher suites that are used by IE and your OS: ...but I believe that is only applicable to the cipher suites that are already a part of the OS, and to add any that aren't probably requires an update, like what was done with this one - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/3161639. I have no idea whether it is possible to add the ones from Win 10 somehow, officially or un-officially, but it would be nice. Of course, if site programmers would just stick with Steve Gibson's cipher suite suggestions - https://www.grc.com/miscfiles/SChannel_Cipher_Suites.txt - that would also solve the problem. I also thank @VistaLover for his testing and reporting his findings. Very informative. Cheers and Regards

Then you are missing symbols.

Sorry, forgot to say that neither "Cancel" nor "Retry" does have any effect.

will give a try to that patch which I was unaware of If you want another user friendly patch, the following one with a single click it's done. the best thing is that is doesn't ''destroy'' your system files so you can quickly uninstall it in case your system doesn't run properly.

Why, in my day ... https://tinyapps.org/blog/200702250700_why_in_my_day.html My first computer was a Sinclair ZX 80 ( yes the one before the ZX 81) and I soldered components to build it ... and we liked it ! (and it was replaced in a few months time by an actual ZX81) Kids today ... jaclaz

i have no idea if this is true or not, but i find it concerning.. https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/windows-7-kb4524752-forcing-upgrade-to-10.3536973/

Win 10 v1909 essentially IS v1903 with some run time switches thrown. Same underlying OS build. As those of you who have been through the upgrade have seen, it was only a minor install that didn't take long to download nor restart. Not an in-place upgrade at all, but just another update. I admit NOT swapping out the OS underpinnings is perhaps the first impressive thing Microsoft has done with Windows in a long time. Hurrah! It would be awesome if BigMuscle would rebuild an optimized version of Aero Glass for Win 8+ that loosened the compatibility check and allowed v1909 just the same as v1903, without the dialog, though we can of course hit the [Cancel] button for now as a workaround. Let's hope he still has the interest to continue to develop Aero Glass for Win 8+. BigMuscle, if you're listening, it would also be cool if you'd add a version check circumvention based on a registry entry (assuming you don't already have one) just in case something like this amazing continuation of Windows compatibility should ever happen again. Thanks! -Noel