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New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250705-3219d2d-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250705-3219d2d-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250705-3219d2d-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Make scrollbar width checks use the originating non-NAC style context on Linux and Mac (af84337437) - Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Fix UAF when returning the non-NAC style context from a frameless node (6e358f1039) - Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Avoid declaring RefPtr in the return statement (e4630ce481) - Unprefix -moz-read-write / -moz-read-only (4cc014cb6b) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

I think we have to take Shane's word for it that the patch has been applied to Supermium 132. As I said earlier, it's an ESR version, which surely should be capable of having the patch applied to it, as it should be fully supported until the next ESR version is released. I'm not sure how we can test whether the patch has been applied successfully or not.

@reboot12 Make some tests with disable and enable the Microsoft UAA drivers in System Devices. I remember, that I had the same problem and the admin @Dave-H here also with Baytrail Flex 10 and XP and sound Dietmar

Sotwe.com is working fine here in the UK on Supermium 132.0.6834.224 on XP.

Then it's a good idea to use the patched ungoogled for Server 2008 R2. No one knows and no one can guarantee how good and when the old 132 Supermium will (ever?) be patched for that serious vulnerability. https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Chromium-for-windows-7/releases/tag/ungoogled-chromium_138.0.7204.96 Edit/ They say it's been patched in R5. But in the article they say the patch is for 138+! Contradictory. https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/releases/tag/v132-r5

https://github.com/advisories/GHSA-mj9c-f5v6-7665 Severity: High (8.1/10) https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2025/06/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_30.html Manual mitigation, at the expense of performance, if you don't want to update: https://github.com/Alex313031/thorium/issues/1024#issuecomment-3038992237

off topic: after using for 5 years and wrote ~90TB, my SN750 1TB lost from system first time. following experience from last time, I grabbed my unconnected idle 970evo+ and did a quick clone and let SN750 idle without electricity instead. time to find another m.2 stick with DRAM.

See: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=32478#p263454

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250705-e30943041-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250705-e30943041-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - import from UXP: Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Make scrollbar width checks use the originating non-NAC style context on Linux and Mac (af843374) (60255fc16) - import from UXP: Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Fix UAF when returning the non-NAC style context from a frameless node (6e358f10) (8580d4e5d) - ported from UXP: Unprefix -moz-read-write / -moz-read-only (4cc014cb) (e30943041)

@Dietmar A CSMWrap version has been released, which allows you to use the BIOS video from the disk from EFI\Boot\vgabios.bin https://github.com/FlyGoat/CSMWrap/issues/37#issuecomment-3030297746 Compiled bins: https://github.com/FlyGoat/CSMWrap/actions/runs/16040013218 Thanks to this, WinXP boot OK on iGPU using ntldr as on a normal Legacy machine - I tested CoffeeLake, Haswell, SandyBridge: CSM Disabled, iGPU VBIOS extracted from motherboard bios. Now - I don't have to use SeaVGABIOS and Longhorn bootmgr 5472 loader.

Thanks for linking! Unfortunately, such comparisons are not particularly useful. It also depends considerably on other components such as the RAM memory, north and south bridge, the bus clock, the graphics adapter, processor features, hyper-threading and so on.

Not quite true. I use both my old Windows XP computer and my Android tablet for what you call "real work". And in some special cases, a notebook with Windows 7 and Windows 10. But that was not the point here. Anyway! This thread is actually about Mypal 68, and I am happy to confirm that this browser works well on my old hardware. And much better when optimised.

Probably @Cixert assumed, and rightfully so, the double engine of 360 Explorer or something similar would be implemented in Supermium, too.

@win32

You mean ChatGPT suffers a notorious paranoia?

Normally the same as in the PCIe HD graphics card, e.g. AMD HD7450: Audio output from Intel CPU is over HDMI, DP or DVI (DVI only if in bios is function Audio over DVI and you need DVI > DP or DVI > HDMI cable:

Okay. Your suggestion just worked for me as well as FindNextFileA works too when I got mypal68 to work on Windows XP SP1.

So has Win32ss engineered the patch for Supermium, even though it's only at Chromium 132? It is based on the ESR version, which should surely be able to have the patch applied?

Version 138 is required for the fix; the bug goes back earlier though: Good catch. Google is being tight-lipped on exactly when this vulnerability crept in. I doubt it goes all the way back to 2008, though. Today's V8 looks nothing like the original. I believe (and should have said) versions prior to the V8 optimizer are not vulnerable. I suspect 360EE (and Kafan MiniBrowser) aren't vulnerable because the option to turn off the optimizer isn't there (presumably because there's nothing to turn off), but I can't be sure with the limited info we have.

It's well hidden: Settings / Privacy and Security / Manage V8 Security (near bottom of page - scroll down) / Don't allow sites to use the V8 optimizer (This will slow down Javascript) Really old Chromium versions (360EE) don't have V8 and so are (presumably) not vulnerable

I personally use SAB for deskband support (as well as small taskbar).

Can safely declare official funeral. Mid summer, not even a slightest rumour about the supposed April beta, @D.Draker's prophecy fulfilled.

Could you help me to run CatsXP, maybe? I could only get up to the 125th version of it.

It seems that Daum Potplayer for Windows Vista is out of date. The last version I could install was 1.7.22508 released in March 2025. Maybe for some people it is not the best player, but it was really good for me. Such a pity.

@Karla Sleutel Supermium 126.0.6478.254 64-bit, XP64-bit - works in PL

The site is still blocked on the DNS level in some countries like Canada. Obtained the latest 132 copy from Github. Now I get this.

Supermium's advapi misses this api. How do you run it, then?

I used kernel33 from extended kernel and advapi32, ole32, shell32, user32 wrappers from Supermium 132. As you can see, for example, ublock works. I didn't need a platform upgrade or an extended kernel installation for this

https://win32subsystem.live is down completely, inaccessible at all. If I click "ignore and go to non-secure http", nothing happens at all. Empty. Could be due to yet another malware strike? https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/issues/1481

The query on GitHub has been updated. It seems the problem went away with a new clean profile.

Strange, I have no problems with YouTube at all, even on 32-bit XP.

Why do I get notification for your replies? I think it was another member who tagged you. @ED_Sln and @D.Draker, they ordered a version for Vista from the Chinese student, he made it after a couple of hours, and it runs on Vista WITHOUT SP!!! How long did it take for Supermium to geat there? Several years? And it's super buggy. Write to the Chinese student, probably he will make one for your XP, but it will take a bit longer, three hours, maybe...

https://msfn.org/board/topic/186741-firefox-and-chromium-running-on-windows-7-by-e3kskskoy7wqk/?do=findComment&comment=1278904 They quit making CCFL around 2007, around 18 years ago, so yeah it's LED. you said it's "less than 10 y.o." Shades of white and proper shadows are only visible on a good, properly calibrated, expensive LED, which is LESS than 5, not "less than 10 years old" like yours, but then again, I don't blame you, it's just strange why at least 5 people here see that, and you don't.

"piercing white" and "acid blue" all come from the overall increased brightness and digital vibrance, is the word overblown clear to you? That's what Supermium has in terms of colours. But it can be not so noticeable on e-waste, 10 years old LED monitors. LED is designed to be used for no more than 3-5 years, they awfully degrade overtime, much faster than CCFL and irreversibly kill your retina, so the fact you finally opened up about having a near 10 y.o. LED display is even worse than the alleged 20 years old Dell 2407. On one hand, it possibly took a lot of courage to admit about having such a monitor, on the other - a bit shallow, considering the fact you knew there's a "crew" watching, lol.

Only one English language is proper, the one they speak in England, everything else is a dialect. Removing letters from words or saying elevator instead of lift doesn't make it another, standalone language, ir's still a dialect, and a very odd one. Not to mention rather new. I don't "insist" on anything, I just assumed it'd be more convenient to use normal, not upside down dates and normal. internationally recognised spelling. It's your choice if you don't want to. Then don't whine when we spot you over a mile on github or anywhere else. Look how your favourite Supermium author spells, or the iconic @AstroSkipper, Dave and my dear friend @Jody Thornton. BTW, just so you know, on joint NATO missions, we all communicated in English-English, not the American dialect.

@NotHereToPlayGames Here we are: Define the parameters of such a test and I will engage in this battle. Quantifiable measurements where neither one of us can "cheat". Then we'll let the rest of MSFN members "decide for themselves". Since the word offtopic is apparently not in your vocabulary, I hereby move our conversation to this thread created specifically for the purpose of computer performance comparisons in order to finally be ontopic again. Your proposed test procedure is far too fiddly and time-consuming. I am more in favour of using a well-known, locally installed test tool (i.e. offline tool) that tests all components and generates an overall performance index for the purpose of comparison. My suggestion: PCMark05 which still supports Windows XP.

Please, don't come up with your "gut feelings"! I have presented all the essential facts that you have not commented on. My presentation has nothing to do with subjectivity and hypotheses. But as I said, it's offtopic here anyway and actually totally irrelevant. Your cucumber is old and mine is many years older.

Would be great if you saved it in the past. FileHippo has become bad the last years. It was great but now it is crap. The file is only a linker (1.6MB) and no offline installer. From FileHippo one can't get any meaningful these days.

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Glad that explains it, I do have the Segoe UI fonts installed on XP. I can't remember why.

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Reading. (town in Berkshire)

You're most likely missing the AHCI drivers that needed to be integrated. It's many tutorials around the web. I'm not sure whether to tell it here because it would involve the modifying of original MS ISO. Just search for integrating SATA drivers (AHCI) to XP.

Well, this topic "win7-browsers-video-colour-range-stutter" doesn't specify Firefox only, try to switch to chrome then?

You need something with the Chip NEC D720200AF1 https://www.tiger-technik.de/PC-Zubehoer/Schnittstellen-Karten/2-Port-USB-3-0-PCIe-PCI-Express-Karte-Adapter-Card-NEC-D720200AF1-chip-rot-sk47::7334.html

You can! I think @UCyborgported rufus to Vista, I'm sorry, I don't remember which version exactly as I don't use it, but I tried out of curiosity and it worked. Ask him for the links.