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New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250802-3219d2d-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250802-3219d2d-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250802-3219d2d-uxp-3553319265-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250802-d849524bd-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250802-d849524bd-uxp-3553319265-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250802-d849524bd-uxp-3553319265-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250802-d849524bd-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250802-d849524bd-uxp-3553319265-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2835 - Part 1: Expose nsCSSRuleProcessor::CascadeSheet (be3d8491c7) - Issue #2835 - Part 2: Implement processing of import rules based on order of appearance (37230e7b21) - No issue - Regenerate devtools CSS database (2c39bb7901) - Issue #2489: Add CSS color-mix keyword support (055a685c2e) - Issue #2489: ColorMixValue support and structure (7800eb0126) - Issue #2489: Add color-mix serialization support (b42cca5fa5) - Issue #2489: Add color-mix computation support (58d7206259) - Issue #2489: Include color-mix to avoid filtering (6b938c48a5) - Issue #2489: Update enum class syntax (99d7fb8e95) - Issue #2489: Create ColorMixValue structure (cb60df2169) - Issue #2489: color-mix function parsing (7899850a19) - Issue #2489: Fix CSS color-mix() percentage parsing (a3cb799126) - Issue #2489: Remove unnecessary initializations (eb7eacc565) - Issue #2489: Improve color-mix() computation algorithm (ff5f3b2b2d) - Issue #2489: Adding RGB to HSL function (cb2547efa3) - Issue #2489: Allow color-mix() to differentiate color spaces (01b0b8251d) - Issue #2489: Allow HSL with alpha mixing (22be9f7fc6) - Issue #2489: Allow SRGB with alpha mixing (5fe574de22) - Issue #2489: Disallow percentage overflow and underflow (052b5d1ffa) - Issue #2489: Produce more accurate computations (2855cd6ded) - Issue #2790 - Part 1: Add: event state, pseudo-class mapping, SetAutofilled methods (13d1054046) - Issue #2790 - Part 2: Address BZ bugs: 1355438 and 1341230 (d99eab0d9d) - Issue #2790 - Part 3: Address BZ bug 1849122 and resolve build issues (4cdfb9e16b) - Issue #2790 - Part 4: Working non persistent autofill highlight (bf8cfcc980) - Issue #2790 - Part 5: Persistent highlight despite blur click (156c755085) - Issue #2790 - Cleanup: Remove debugging lines (459ed6ea85) - Issue #2790 - Cleanup: Remove whitespaces (70cbf0dfd3) - Issue #2790 - Part 6: Highlight color change and remove important (61ad3b8d6e) - Issue #2790 - Part 7: Setting of contrasting color and fixing of last commit's issues (61f92f89ea) - Issue #2790 - Cleanup: Correct whitespaces (429e05c8a1) - Issue #2489 - Follow-up: Add `color-mix()` manual test. (cea125a01d) - [DOM] Fix crash in `<object>` scheme checking code. (838be26145) - [DOM] Simplify `<object>` scheme check code and fix plugin handling. (ace2c1c1ee) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250809-3219d2d-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250809-3219d2d-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250809-3219d2d-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2714 - Implement the Visual Viewport API (a036cfeb69) - Issue #2714 - Enable the Visual Viewport API by default. (1ffa7569e9) - Issue #2835 - Follow-up: Guard against import rules with no attached style sheet (2026586ce1) - Issue #2838 - Use `ToIndex` in `TypedArray` CTORs (c07ea665ea) - Issue #2838 - Update tests (fcc58bfbba) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - [Basilisk] [Pale-Moon] [SSUAO] update youtube's SSUAO (5a01efea53) - layout: CascadeSheet: check aSheet is non-null before use. (a2da19760e) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250823-3219d2d-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250823-3219d2d-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250823-3219d2d-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250823-d849524bd-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250823-d849524bd-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250823-d849524bd-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250823-d849524bd-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250823-d849524bd-uxp-e5ea29554a-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2837 - Implement `prefers-reduced-motion` media query. (df3b213459) - Issue #1899 - Remove MDN docs tooltip and link code from devtools. (842cc60707) - Issue #1843 - Clean up WindowsVersion.h (7af71cb345) - Issue #2847 - Extend `-moz-os-version` media query with win11. (723180132d) - Issue #2258 - Part 1: Support XCTO:nosniff when navigating. (e56e5d6cb1) - Issue #2258 - Part 2: Move XCTO:nosniff check into sniffers. (cca20ae131) - Issue #2258 - Part 3: Allow sniffing with XCTO:nosniff + empty MIME type. (707c3e3fa8) - Issue #2258 - Part 4: Clean up unused pointers. (bd734f795c) - Bug 1875345 - Report 24 instead of 32 as the colorDepth (and pixelDepth) on Linux (assuming 8 of 32 bits are for the alpha channel). (e3de626c1f) - Issue #2850 - Alias `:focus-visible` to `:-moz-focusring` (6d47d819fa) - [gfx] Guard against possible race via gfxFontEntry::GetFontTable. (7cadc57d49) - [js] Error-check pthread calls (425f38ff84) - [NSS] Avoid leak in pkcs12 decoder. (fe21538da4) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - nss: update certdata and bump ckbi version to 2.80 - Bug 1974511 - Add SwissSign 2022 Roots to NSS r=jschanck - Bug 1972391 - Add TrustAsia Dedicated Roots to NSS r=jschanck - Bug 1961848 - Remove expired Baltimore CyberTrust Root r=jschanck - Bug 1978677 - remove expired explicitly distrusted DigiNotar lookalike root r=nss-reviewers,jschanck (f5307ea861) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Having finally got Windows 7 to my liking, I decided to look into any telemetry that the OS has installed. From what I read it's not as bad as Windows 10 and 11. I found this article discussing '11 Free Tools' to use. 11 Free Tools To Disable and Stop Windows from Spying and Tracking You https://www.geckoandfly.com/25083/free-tools-disable-stop-windows-spying-tracking-you/ Number 2 on the list is a tool called Blackbird ... Blackbird v6 (64bit). It works on Windows 7 as well as higher, they do also list Vista. Nice write-up about it here and other places. It will make a backup before removing anything. I also have my own backup on a flash drive before using it. It seemed to work really good and appears to be safe to use and run. MajorGeeks has it listed to work on Windows 11|10|8|7 but I can't be sure how accurate that information is. Just wondering about any thoughts on Blackbird? It seems to be really safe to use. I used it almost two weeks ago before I posted about it here and have not noticed any problems. It does remove a lot of items and all the items changed or removed are posted. Information from the link above does not list it working on Windows 11 as MajorGeeks does. I put their information below: Blocks Telemetry Completely – Block Windows spyware, on both the application and network level, without editing the HOSTS file or firewall settings and remove all Windows telemetry updates. Supports Wireless and Ethernet connections, IPv4/IPv6. Removes Windows Ads – Remove all Windows built-in advertising and any pre-installed app you want. Stop your PC from downloading and installing sponsored software in the background. Restores Privacy – Prevent diagnostic data, passwords, contacts, URL, SMS, handwriting, location, and P2P-update sharing. Remove all unique ID tracking tokens. Disable 60+ data collection tasks and consequently speed up your PC. Portable, Restorable, Flexible – No installation, with a focus on leaving the smallest possible footprint, Blackbird is a single, portable exe with granular switches available. Want to restore everything back? They got you covered. Works on Windows Vista, 7, 8/8.1, 10 (Home/Pro/Ent/Edu) How Blackbird Works Without going into too much detail, Blackbird employs some known and less-known techniques to fully disarm Windows while leaving the smallest possible footprint. For instance, Blackbird does not edit the HOSTS file in any way, nor does it mess with your firewall settings. It does not run in the background, instead relying on persistent routes and resolving hostnames to IP addresses each time Blackbird is applied by the user. After usage no new files are left behind on your computer and you can safely delete blackbird.exe. Blackbird has succeded when you forget it was ever there. Everything our software does can be restored using the software itself or manually by hand. *Dev.notice: Please don't do this manually, it will take forever and is confusing. There are other tools that claim to block Windows spying but they are cumbersome to use and not as powerful or are limited in scope. So we took Windows apart, piece by piece, analyzed web traffic, system calls, file changes, etc, compared different configurations, designed and built a stand-alone tool and spent hundreds of hours on beta testing so anyone can use it and it gets the job done right. What Blackbird Does > Disables OneDrive > Disables Cortana > Disables Bing-integration > Disables all AutoLoggers > Disables Wi-Fi Sense > Disables system-wide telemetry (on all editions of Windows 10 and older) > Disables all OS advertising (tips, pop-ups, suggested apps, etc.) > Disables all Xbox Live services > Disables web content evaluation ("SmartScreen") and prevents URL check-in > Disables Windows Media online DRM > Disables Windows P2P Update sharing > Disables hidden Windows metric startup tasks > Disables all diagnostic tracking services > Disables all application metric-data collection agents > Prevents system read access to already collected diagnostic data > Prevents any location/contacts/messages/handwritting/password sharing > Prevents cross-device synchronization (ie; Windows Phone auto-syncing with PC account data) > Removes GWX and Windows 10 upgrade pop-ups > Removes Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA) > Removes your unique ad-tracking ID token > Removes a bunch of Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 telemetry updates (View full list here) > Removes Superfish, eDellRoot, HP Touchpoint Analytics, VisualDiscovery and other security risks > Removes all pre-install Windows 10 Upgrade files/folders on Windows 7, 8, 8.1 > Blocks 500+ different tracking/telemetry/ad servers (View full list here) > Patches various data leaks (IE/Edge, Explorer, Defender, MRT, SMB) > Applies various network tweaks (enables RSS,ctcp,tcp-offload,ECN) INCLUDES: > Blackbird App Manager (Windows 10 only) : Block any system application the easy & user-friendly way. > Blackbird STD : Force removal of stubborn spy tasks. > Backup & Restore : Save current system settings to an external file restorable at any time. Try Blackbird Windows Privacy and Security ... Blackbird is THE BEST! *** I also found a 'ready to use' script at this link discussion. Remove ALL telemetry updates from Windows 7 & 8 and 8.1 https://windowsforum.com/threads/remove-all-telemetry-updates-from-windows-7-8-and-8-1.228360/ ... there is a list of items removed and at the bottom is a link to get the script ready to download and use. I also ran this script after running Blackbird and so far everything seems to be OK on my computer. I'm many years late getting involved with Windows 7 but with Windows XP ... which I still like, the web pages are really becoming a problem with daily use. It can be OK with Javascript disabled but I'm sure it will only get worse and not better with XP. So maybe there are others here that can use these tools and script on Windows 7. I'm sure it's not 100% but it has to be better than what I had before after running Blackbird and the script download. ...

... Probably not, so let me summarise the gist of what @j7n was talking about in his recent posts: 1. The H.264 codec is probably the best choice when you're about to playback video on a system with low H/W resources (weak CPU, low-end GPU) and a legacy OS like Win7 SP1; the decoder is natively supported by the OS (not the case in XP SP3) and via implementations like WMF/MSE, an MP4 video can be played back within a compatible browser with hardware acceleration and hardware decoding (not the same things); most Win7-era graphics cards have H.264 decoding support built-in, so even when the MP4 video is being played back in a standalone media player, video decoding is performed by the GPU, not CPU... 2. Google have recently started producing their h.264 (aka avc1) youtube encodes at very low video bitrates, even for "high" resolutions, such as 720p/1080p; thus, while the h.264 YT encodes should be preferred for downloading (because they need less computer resources to be played back once downloaded), the stingy bitrate results in sub-optimal visual experiences (blurry moving images, video artifacts of various sorts, etc.). 3. OTOH, Google continue to produce their VP9 YT encodes at exceptional bitrates, especially for the FHD/UHD resolutions (>=720p); these are large files to download, to begin with, but, once downloaded, playback on low-end machines puts a heavy toll on the CPU, because VP9 is being software-decoded; I've not researched this properly, but graphics cards with integrated, native, VP9 decoding support (aka VP9 hardware decoding) only came in the later 2010s, as part of mostly Win10 machines... TL;DR: To have the best visual experience, j7n has to fetch the VP9 YT encodes, but these are detrimental to his under-resourced machine (mostly the CPU is being utilised for video playback, resulting in excess heat and energy consumption, etc.).

Supermium's password manager is working fine for me, and always has done. It is backed up to the cloud by Google Sync, so it's synchronised with my other Supermium installations on other machines, (I know, I know, but it works for me, and I don't use it for any really sensitive passwords like online banking!) I back up my whole machine locally regularly as well, of course.

Announcement Due to the fact that @feodor2 has been working for months to ensure that the Custom Buttons extension runs smoothly, so as soon as the new version of Mypal is available, I will publish my custom button PMT - Process Mode Toggler. This custom button, now in version 7.0, allows the user to toggle between single-process and multi-process mode in Mypal with one click and appropriate, pre-selectable settings. The toolbar icon and the toolbar tip always show the current status. Since version 3.0, the PMT custom button comes with a Compatibility Service inside the script which, if activated, checks, whether the browser used is compatible with this custom button or not, and gives advices what to do to ensure that it is working there as designed. The PMT - Process Mode Toggler custom button is in any case compatible with all versions of Mypal 68 and Mypal 74 released until now.

@DrWho3000 I have abandoned Thorium months ago due to the lack of updates. At that time, I used a ThoriumLoader.exe and a ThoriumLoader.ini file customised by implementing the Thorium Icon Set. If interested, I can upload both files for further use. I do not have any use for it anymore. You still have to adapt the ThoriumLoader.ini file to your needs, of course.

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250809-391ff658e-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250809-391ff658e-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - import from `custom` branch of UXP: layout: CascadeSheet: check aSheet is non-null before use. (0f81abbe6) - ported from UXP: Issue #2714 - Implement the Visual Viewport API (a036cfeb) (e822fb126) - import from UXP: Issue #2714 - Enable the Visual Viewport API by default. (1ffa7569) (991888773) - import from UXP: Issue #2835 - Follow-up: Guard against import rules with no attached style sheet (2026586c) (05a146473) - ported from UXP: Issue #2838 - Use `ToIndex` in `TypedArray` CTORs (c07ea665) (f97a16faa) - import from UXP: Issue #2838 - Update tests (fcc58bfb) (391ff658e)

Alternatively, you can create custom rules for the AVSForum. uBO's logger will tell you which rule is the causer. But TBH, I do not use the Phishing URL Blocklist anyways. But I think there will be more and more filter lists coming up with certain rules no longer working properly in such old versions of uBO.

sure, thanks, sample eml is retrieved. and with my fix in https://msfn.org/board/topic/185966-my-browser-builds-part-5/page/148/#findComment-1281466 applied, opening your sample doesn't crash. so killed two birds with one stone. upstream doesn't fully test their changes, and unfortunately so do I. as a result, your inputs worth a lot. and of course please wait for next build which should fix these problems.

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250802-450ca22c4-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250802-450ca22c4-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - import from UXP: Issue #2835 - Part 1: Expose nsCSSRuleProcessor::CascadeSheet (be3d8491) (90903923a) - import from UXP: Issue #2835 - Part 2: Implement processing of import rules based on order of appearance (37230e7b) (c36257aad) - import from UXP: No issue - Regenerate devtools CSS database (2c39bb79) (28ff7ce39) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Add CSS color-mix keyword support (055a685c) (509d89953) - import from UXP: - Issue #2489: ColorMixValue support and structure (7800eb01) - Issue #2489: Add color-mix serialization support (b42cca5f) - Issue #2489: Add color-mix computation support (58d72062) - Issue #2489: Include color-mix to avoid filtering (6b938c48) - Issue #2489: Update enum class syntax (99d7fb8e) - Issue #2489: Create ColorMixValue structure (cb60df21) (2a5c28b87) - ported from UXP: Issue #2489: color-mix function parsing (7899850a) (ce3a0f957) - import from UXP: - Issue #2489: Fix CSS color-mix() percentage parsing (a3cb7991) - Issue #2489: Remove unnecessary initializations (eb7eacc5) (d9b6054ab) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Improve color-mix() computation algorithm (ff5f3b2b) (102fddce4) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Adding RGB to HSL function (cb2547ef) (1e079074e) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Allow color-mix() to differentiate color spaces (01b0b825) (d6fd0467e) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Allow HSL with alpha mixing (22be9f7f) (b65401f37) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Allow SRGB with alpha mixing (5fe574de) (d8462ab02) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Disallow percentage overflow and underflow (052b5d1f) (37719c1ad) - import from UXP: Issue #2489: Produce more accurate computations (2855cd6d) (45cf9eb91) - import from UXP: Issue #2790 - Part 1: Add: event state, pseudo-class mapping, SetAutofilled methods (13d10540) (0a5f1cc14) - ported from UXP: - Issue #2790 - Part 2: Address BZ bugs: 1355438 and 1341230 (d99eab0d) - Issue #2790 - Part 3: Address BZ bug 1849122 and resolve build issues (4cdfb9e1) (eff68ee91) - ported from UXP: Issue #2790 - Part 4: Working non persistent autofill highlight (bf8cfcc9) (2fae301fd) - ported from UXP: - Issue #2790 - Part 5: Persistent highlight despite blur click (156c7550) - Issue #2790 - Cleanup: Remove debugging lines (459ed6ea) - Issue #2790 - Cleanup: Remove whitespaces (70cbf0df) - Issue #2790 - Part 6: Highlight color change and remove important (61ad3b8d) - Issue #2790 - Part 7: Setting of contrasting color and fixing of last commit's issues (61f92f89) (8c244cfe3) - import from UXP: Issue #2489 - Follow-up: Add `color-mix()` manual test. (cea125a0) (8377e97b3) - import from UXP: [DOM] Fix crash in `<object>` scheme checking code. (838be261) (59c6b3671) - [SSUAO] update youtube's SSUAO (9fbf05a39) - import from UXP: [DOM] Simplify `<object>` scheme check code and fix plugin handling. (ace2c1c1) (450ca22c4)

you can try setting referer.trimmingPolicy = 2 to see if it helps.

upstream noticed this and will be fixed in my next build. Ref: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=32597

https://www.abortretry.fail/p/the-history-of-windows-xp

Can the old navigation pane be brought back?

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250823-69d606e5d-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250823-69d606e5d-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - ported from UXP: Issue #2837 - Implement `prefers-reduced-motion` media query. (df3b2134) (796fbddde) - ported from UXP: Issue #1899 - Remove MDN docs tooltip and link code from devtools. (842cc607) (748599a3f) - ported from UXP: Issue #1843 - Clean up WindowsVersion.h (7af71cb3) (513b16251) - import from UXP: Issue #2847 - Extend `-moz-os-version` media query with win11. (72318013) (721e8343a) - ported from UXP: Issue #2258 - Part 1: Support XCTO:nosniff when navigating. (e56e5d6c) (7c405cfe3) - import from UXP: Issue #2258 - Part 2: Move XCTO:nosniff check into sniffers. (cca20ae1) (fb7674759) - import from UXP: Issue #2258 - Part 3: Allow sniffing with XCTO:nosniff + empty MIME type. (707c3e3f) (d1fd2e3b3) - import from UXP: Issue #2258 - Part 4: Clean up unused pointers. (bd734f79) (a3d299d64) - import from UXP: Bug 1875345 - Report 24 instead of 32 as the colorDepth (and pixelDepth) on Linux (assuming 8 of 32 bits are for the alpha channel). (e3de626c) (780aa8768) - import from UXP: Issue #2850 - Alias `:focus-visible` to `:-moz-focusring` (6d47d819) (98b67440c) - nss: update certdata and bump ckbi version to 2.80 - Bug 1974511 - Add SwissSign 2022 Roots to NSS r=jschanck - Bug 1972391 - Add TrustAsia Dedicated Roots to NSS r=jschanck - Bug 1961848 - Remove expired Baltimore CyberTrust Root r=jschanck - Bug 1978677 - remove expired explicitly distrusted DigiNotar lookalike root r=nss-reviewers,jschanck (9815f4533) - import from UXP: [gfx] Guard against possible race via gfxFontEntry::GetFontTable. (7cadc57d) (5748e6157) - import from UXP: [js] Error-check pthread calls (425f38ff) (2bf79a7ff) - import from UXP: [NSS] Avoid leak in pkcs12 decoder. (fe21538d) (69d606e5d)

So did I now: https://developer.paypal.com/tools/sandbox/ so probably NOT what you're after ; if you're limited to using UXP-based browsers (on Windows XP SP3?), then am afraid they're now dead in the water with regards to PayPal; the issue needs to be escalated upstream by users of the "official" UXP browsers (Pale Moon and Basilisk, on Win7SP1+), in the hope upstream can come up with a solution, but the relevant PMForum thread hasn't seen any further activity since July 30th... OT for this thread, but you may also appeal for help to Feodor2 in MyPal's GitHub issue tracker ; if still on XP, you might try how the Supermium browser fares on PayPal these days; might prove your only recourse...

YouTube has something new on their end again. No mention of SABR at all anymore. There is new line in the app that says "Sleeping for 5 seconds as required by the site." No big deal about that. Requesting 720p or 1080p h.264 video gives extremely poor quality compared to how it was before. The bitrates for a talking head segment are 240 kbit/s and 860 kbit/s respectively. Requesting no/default format gives VP9 in extremely large size and demand for the computer. Best that they have 3840*2160 @ 30 fps, 9500 kbit/s. Google really wants to push their VP9. When nothing works, this still does.

...It wasn't working for him, but now it is : PS: The forum software doesn't send a second (e-mail) notification to thread-subscribed members after one has edited one's original post (for which an initial notification has already been sent) ... Browser profile corruption is always a possibility, so, as others have noted, regular profile back-up and back-up of important info on physical copies is always strongly recommended ... ... Probably NOT ...

Greetings It search for "yt-dlp_win7_x86.exe" but "yt-dlp_x86_win7.exe" exists. Please take look at _get_binary_name() in yt_dlp\update.py Best regards

maybe we can make a minimal version of replacement DLLs that just work with what they missed.

... One should visit nicolaasjan's GitHub repo ; load latest yt-dlp release, https://github.com/nicolaasjan/yt-dlp/releases/latest then expand assets (if not expanded) and there they are : yt-dlp_win7.exe => 64-bit compile, yt-dlp_x86_win7.exe => 32-bit compile, BOTH are built on py3.13, so are good for the next 4 yrs, at least... Win7-compatible py3.13 courtesy of adang1345 ... Well, you didn't go through the GitHub issue I linked to ; there are automated solutions suggested such as this one : https://github.com/grqz/yt-dlp-getpot-jsi/blob/master/README.md @user57: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-31018/ is the latest py3.10 release by the PSF (security-only release in source-code form: https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.10.18/Python-3.10.18.tar.xz ) Let me just say that achieving Vista SP2 (NT 6.0) compatibility should be much easier that targeting XP (NT 5.x); the last Vista compatible version was py3.7 (py3.4 for XP SP3). One should thoroughly comb the py3.10 source code and identify ALL the Vista breaking code the PSF authored after py3.7; these changes should then be reverted or rewritten with "translated" code that is py3.7 compatible; once that task has been completed, the modded source should then be compiled with a suitable compiler (MSVC and/or MSYS2) targeting NT 6.0 and, also, the 32-bit architecture; but this is NOT all ; yt-dlp itself has quite a large number of dependencies, i.e. Python modules; the py3.10 wheels for them to be found on PyPI are made with the official py3.10 in mind, so compatibility with a Vista-py3.10 isn't always a given, especially in the case when the modules contain C/C++ extensions (i.e. DLLs, which, under Windows, have the .pyd file extension); these Python modules have to be recompiled from their sources using the modded py3.10 and the same compiler that compiled py3.10 itself (probably on a Win10 host). Things on XP should be even more difficult because several py3.10 own dependencies, e.g. OpenSSL, have moved away from XP long time ago... https://github.com/adang1345/PythonWin7/blob/master/Notes.md#python-310 and https://github.com/adang1345/PythonWin7/tree/master/patches are adang1345's instructions on how to make py3.10 run on Win7; perhaps they'd be somehow useful for someone wanting to also attain NT 6.0 compatibility ... PS: the yt-dlp devs are adamant on always dropping a Python version once the PSF have dropped security support for that version (they're also keen on using the latest bells and whistles a new Python version comes with ) ; and the PSF always align themselves behind Microsoft when it comes to the Windows OS, so, as a result, only Win10+ is officially supported now ... PS2: Maroc's py3.11 offering previously discussed is what is called a binhack (binary hack): official DLL and EXE binaries are HexEdited and XP-incompatible functions are either stubbed or forwarded to a set of wrappers, mostly One-Core-API and/or Wine DLLs; the end result 1) makes my antivirus solution go completely berserk 2) WON'T even launch under Vista SP2 32-bit, as the wrapper DLLs specifically target NT 5.x system DLLs ...

New, temporary fix for the Custom Buttons extension in Mypal 74.1.1 A temporary fix can be done In line 782 of the bootstrap.js file and in line 36 of the addons-html.js file inside the extension: - means remove + means add ************** In line 782 of the bootstrap.js file: - if (!FOX85 && appVersion >= 78 && url == "chrome://custombuttons/content/overlay.xul") + if (!FOX85 && appVersion >= 74 && url == "chrome://custombuttons/content/overlay.xul") In line 36 of the addons-html.js file: - if (version >= 78) { + if (version >= 74) { The latter fix of the addons-html.js file comes from @feodor2. Alternatively, you can follow his instructions for patching here: https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/issues/426#issuecomment-3172415836 Now, the list of all installed custom buttons appears again.

Thanks! This works. The list of all installed custom buttons appears again. So, I was spot on with the addons-html.js file. Anyway. One of the two "Uncaught - undefined" error messages has thus been fixed, however, the other one still remains. That means clicking onto the entry Custom Buttons in the Add-ons Manager for opening its list leads to only one error message each time in Mypal 74.1.0 instead of two from now on. Time will tell whether this remaining error has a negative impact, too.

I understand. We all hope this unprovoked invasion will soon be a thing of the past and you'll have more time for your hobby. 🇺🇦

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250809-40a79c75-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250809-40a79c75-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250809-id-656ea98-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250809-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

Temporary fix for the Custom Buttons extension in Mypal 74.1.1 A temporary fix can be done In line 782 of the bootstrap.js file inside the extension: In line 782 of the bootstrap.js file: - if (!FOX85 && appVersion >= 78 && url == "chrome://custombuttons/content/overlay.xul") + if (!FOX85 && appVersion >= 74 && url == "chrome://custombuttons/content/overlay.xul") However, the list itself of all installed custom buttons is still empty. But this is caused by one of the unfortunately undocumented changes @feodor2 did in Mypal 74.1.0.

@Monroe Actually, uBO 1.62 is compatible with FF78 and up. And uBO 1.65 is compatible with FF92 and up. But as @feodor2 wrote, one can't rely on version numbers in Mypal anymore, it is now a mix of different ones. So, only trial and error is the game. Personally, I prefer uBO 1.62 at the moment since I don't want to go too far away from FF68 or FF74. Who knows what would be missing if you moved too far away from FF68 in terms of compatibility. OTOH, do not think if something is compatible with FF68, it has to work in Mypal. That's water under the bridge. Think, for example, of the Nuchi-Sporif script loading method which no longer works in Mypal! P.S.: This and the last few posts are an exception. Everything concerning extensions, custom buttons, CSS stylesheets or UC.JS scripts and their loaders in Mypal will be dealt by me with in this dedicated thread: I personally consider this thread here for the Mypal browser itself. At the moment, my favourite version of Mypal is 68.14.8b.

Thanks AstroSkipper ... got the link and it installed with no problem. I don't why I had problems earlier ... just kept saying it was 'corrupt'. All is well again. ...

uBO can be installed in Mypal 74.1.1 and is working there. Here is a screenshot showing that uBO 1.62 is installed: I was also able to install the latest version 1.65. And TBH, there are no other adblocker extensions comparable with uBO.

@feodor2 New issue in Mypal 74.1.1: https://msfn.org/board/topic/183657-mypal-68-in-windows-xp-custom-buttons-and-extensions/page/27/#findComment-1281511 Old, well-known issue in Mypal 74.1.0: https://msfn.org/board/topic/183657-mypal-68-in-windows-xp-custom-buttons-and-extensions/page/27/#findComment-1281185 And a question you didn't reply to: https://msfn.org/board/topic/183657-mypal-68-in-windows-xp-custom-buttons-and-extensions/page/27/#findComment-1281186

The Custom Buttons extension has been working basically in Mypal 74.1.0, only the list of all installed custom buttons in the Add-ons Manager has been empty and the Options menu in the Add-ons Manager was not shown. Unfortunately, the Custom Buttons extension now stops working completely in Mypal 74.1.1. No custom buttons appear, and the button editor is broken.

alright it is reproducible now, a fix is pushed to repo: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commit/a2da19760ea8610331430c88d50dcadd0950272c

This page explains what some of the "referer" prefs do: https://notepad.patheticcockroach.com/4256/tweaking-referer-settings-in-firefox-and-tor-browser/

New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250802-40a79c75-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250802-40a79c75-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250802-id-656ea98-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250802-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-3553319265-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

I totally agree with both hands! Windows 7 was very unstable, and needed to reboot frequently. luckily I don't use 7. If it says one needs to make a donation, seems scummy, yes, but the free ones could also be gathering info, phishing.., No one actually knows, the OP @Atom99, we are sorry.

Most notorious telemetry updates for Win 7 and their descriptions: KB4493132-x86-x64 (End of support notification for Windows 7) KB4524752-x86-x64 (End of support notification for Windows 7 Pro) KB971033-x86-x64 (Update for Windows activation verification technologies) KB2952664-x86-x64 (System compatibility update for transition to Windows 10) KB2977759-x86-x64 (Diagnostics for compatibility issues for transition to Windows 10) KB3021917-x86-x64 (System diagnostics and telemetry for transition to Windows 10) KB3035583-x86-x64 (Update installs the ‘Get Windows 10’ app) KB3068708-x86-x64 (Update to improve quality and telemetry diagnostics) KB3075249-x86-x64 (Update adds telemetry points to the consent.exe file) KB3080149-x86-x64 (Update for CEIP and telemetry diagnostics) KB3081954-x86-x64 (Update to improve working folders and telemetry) KB3123862-x86-x64 (Updated capabilities for upgrading to Windows 10) KB3139923-x86-x64 (Update adds telemetry points to consent.exe file) KB3150513-x86-x64 (Updated configurations for compatibility diagnostics) KB3161608-x86-x64 (Update adds telemetry points to consent.exe file) KB3163589-x86-x64 (Message about running an outdated version of Windows) KB3172605-x86-x64 (Update adds telemetry points to consent.exe) KB3173040-x86-x64 (Notification about the expiration of the Windows 10 upgrade offer) KB3125574-v4 (also inludes unnamed telemetry)

@cmalex Thanks again for your efforts to keep Python alive on vintage operating systems! Using your latest Python 3.9 environment, I successfully updated the included yt-dlp via pip to the Nightly build: pip install -U --pre "yt-dlp[default]" Now I get the warning: `yt-dlp -v` output: [debug] Command-line config: ['-v'] [debug] User config "C:\Documents and Settings\Nico\Application Data\yt-dlp\config.txt": ['--rm-cache-dir', '--console-title', '--add-metadata', '--embed-thumbnail', '--convert-thumbnails', 'jpg', '--ppa', 'ffmpeg:-metadata synopsis=""', '-o', '~/Bureaublad/%(title)s.%(ext)s', '-S', 'res:720,vcodec:h264,acodec:mp4a', '--sponsorblock-remove', 'all'] Deprecated Feature: Support for Python version 3.9 has been deprecated. Please update to Python 3.10 or above [debug] Encodings: locale cp1252, fs utf-8, pref cp1252, out cp1252 (No VT), error cp1252 (No VT), screen cp1252 (No VT) [debug] yt-dlp version nightly@2025.07.31.233123 from yt-dlp/yt-dlp-nightly-builds [71f30921a] (pip) [debug] Python 3.9.13 (CPython x86 32bit) - Windows-XP-5.1.2600-SP3 (OpenSSL 1.1.1i 8 Dec 2020) [debug] exe versions: ffmpeg N-116828-g6aafe61-Reino (fdk,setts), ffprobe N-116828-g6aafe61-Reino, phantomjs 1.9.8 [debug] Optional libraries: Cryptodome-3.23.0, brotli-1.1.0, certifi-2025.07.14, mutagen-1.47.0, requests-2.32.4, sqlite3-3.37.2, urllib3-2.5.0, websockets-15.0.1 [debug] Proxy map: {} [debug] Request Handlers: urllib, requests, websockets [debug] Plugin directories: none [debug] Loaded 1858 extractors Removing cache dir C:\Documents and Settings\Nico/.cache\yt-dlp .. Python 3.9 support will be fully dropped in October 2025 (#13861). See also #13858. Is it feasible for you to port Python 3.10 or even 3.11 to Windows XP? I'm sure the community here would be very grateful if you succeeded.

I have been "brain"storming with Copilot (something I'd rather like to avoid 😡) and "it" came with this: Testing that script gave me: Connecting to www.google.com:443 Socket connection error: [Errno 0] Error Copilot's answer:

Well, I really don't know, but presumably win32ss does! Surely the current ESR version has to be patched until it's superseded, if it's vulnerable, or there's no point in having it. That is 132 as far as I'm aware.

@Uiti P. Uszer Open-Shell barely uses any cpu/ram, you can keep using both w/out problems, I do too. Let dev focus on adding new functions and fixing bugs rather than enabling what exist already.

Feature Request: Could you please add a Classic (Win 2K, 9x style) Start Menu theme, like Open Shell has. Or can anyone link to a 3rd party Classic Start Menu theme for SAB?

Yes, I'm sure there might still be some things hanging around. However, I had never gone after any Windows 7 telemetry in my setup. I was looking for an easy way to get rid of whatever I could since I did not want to spend a lot of time hunting each item down from a list. So the 'script removal' tool and Blackbird looked OK to me to start with. I ran Blackbird without removing anything and was amazed at what was found ... so I ran it again letting it remove everything and also ran the script download in case it found anything additional. Hopefully I have a better system now but as you mentioned there are probably some items still there. With Windows 7 no longer getting updates I guess in one way is good since no new telemetry will be installed. Not sure about Windows 10 and 11. Probably Blackbird and other telemetry tools will have to be run again with any downloads from M$. ...

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250726-3219d2d-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250726-3219d2d-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250726-3219d2d-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - Issue #2691 - Follow-up: Add manual tests (5869164e31) - Issue #2826 - Set up fontconfig on XRE startup (GTK only) (b992da05eb) - No issue - Adjust CSP URI reporting more closely with the spec. (0a8f50fafa) - [gfx] Hold a stronger reference to gfxFontEntry. (40f96b82ad) - [js] Align br_table limits with V8/Gecko. (3f297457d8) - [network] Stop accepting nameless cookies. (cdc8127cd1) - [DOM] Make object loading use an explicit scheme whitelist. (f902d2ad0e) - Issue #2828 - Part 1: Build and store the array of layer name tokens in the layer at-rules (53e6317bfb) - Issue #2828 - Part 2: Collect and hold rule cascade data per cascade layer (7b51aa7ca1) - Issue #2828 - Part 3: Refactor selector matching and rule cascade data into separate files/classes (03f29e75ec) - Issue #2828 - Part 4: Move cache key storage to ResolvedRuleCascades (aab9cdf9bd) - Issue #2828 - Part 5: Implement child rule processors (e05d4d8306) - Issue #2828 - Part 6: Assert rules were added to the rule cascade data (d3b305b819) - Issue #2828 - Part 7: Walk child rule processors separately and ensure inverted cascade layer order is enforced for important rules (ec57be653a) - Issue #2828 - Part 8: Extract RuleProcessorGroup (formerly ResolvedRuleCascades) into separate file (3605630f4e) - Issue #2828 - Part 9: Rename CascadeEnumData to CascadeLayer (1655a5a4a9) - Issue #2828 – Part 10: Clean up cascade layer constructor (a922ec0823) - Issue #2828 - Part 11: Detach weighted rule data from cascade layer (cbb019a862) - Issue #2828 - Part 12: Implement cascade layer SizeOfIncludingThis (e3476d33ed) - Issue #2828 - Part 13: Exclude strong layers-related code from release builds (318031c74b) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - layout: partly revert rev 5e8e120 for keeping -moz-hidden-unscrollable to work (44e5bd7711) - [Basilisk] css: replace -moz-hidden-unscrollable with clip (c466a1385f) - [Pale-Moon] css: replace -moz-hidden-unscrollable with clip (9e02324b0b) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

Had a good laugh at the guy that claims to be from Southern Europe, writes Yandex is known for aggressive fingerprinting, yet tries to access it with such a zeal. Here's that extensive guinea pig test for either of you. Thank you and kudos to the tester. "Disabling all privacy-related extensions, including uBO" just to try to get to the favourite Yandex - wow! https://github.com/win32ss/supermium/issues/910#issuecomment-2362536383

And let me ask, what features SP2 and SP3 brought? Right, except the new "security enhancements", they only removed them. Service Pack 2 and Service Pack 3 also removed features from Windows XP, including support for TCP half-open connections[52] and the address bar on the taskbar.[53] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP

Are you running ESET/NOD32 anti-virus? If so and you have SSL protocol filtering enabled you need to add an exception for MU related sites or you have to disable this feature. Same in AVAST called HTTPS Scanning. My security program is AVAST Premier and I have disabled HTTPS scanning. Another method is letting MU generate a completely new SoftwareDistribution folder. Maybe there are faulty downloaded updates in this folder. Here some other methods to fix error code 0x80072F8F: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/error-code-0x80072f8f/d5006dbe-5946-4d68-8f08-8620eeb65efd here very interesting method 3 and 4. Hope you can fix it. Greetings from Germany

@Jaroslaw @VistaLover Thanks a lot for your help. I modified the file security.dtd in langpack-de@palemoon.org.xpi and problem was solved. New german translation file 27.7.0_RC6 is working perfectly too. Thanks and best regards

Hi, due to my problem here a hardcopy of the preference - security window in my New Moon browser. Hope I'll get any help or information. Regards