Geforce 6/7 and 8 AGP/PCI-E Driver Edition for Win98/ME by Zak!

[LoneCrusader]

No matter the topic title from way back whenever, no GeForce 8xxx or higher card has proper working drivers for Windows 9x. Just because someone added them "hopefully" to the INF file and created a thread about it does not magically produce positive results.

Discussion of flashing one card to another is generally off-topic for this thread, but I don't think anyone would have a problem with it as long as it involved cards that were actually 9x compatible, In this case, both cards in question are incompatible, and therefore very much off-topic despite the initial discussion of them being well intentioned and likely arising from not knowing they were incompatible in the first place.

Enough of this.

[SweetLow]

19 hours ago, D.Draker said:

So it's NOT off-topic.

Flashing to Quadro to work in 2000/XP? Something is very bad with your logic.

[SweetLow]

10 hours ago, LoneCrusader said:

Enough of this.

Ok.

[Methanoid]

Q: if Quadro FX 4500 is supported... does it just work as it has 512Mb ram and I hear that causes problems with Win98?  And can I select resolutions above 1024x768?? Considering buying one for other reasons

[Dixel]

3 hours ago, Methanoid said:

Q: if Quadro FX 4500 is supported... does it just work as it has 512Mb ram and I hear that causes problems with Win98?  And can I select resolutions above 1024x768?? Considering buying one for other reasons

It should, being a purely DirectX9.0c GPU based on G70 chip.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro-fx-4500.c1342

[Methanoid]

1 hour ago, Dixel said:

It should, being a purely DirectX9.0c GPU based on G70 chip.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro-fx-4500.c1342

Thanks, I also have the option of a Quadro NVS-440 which is a PCI-E card. OP says AGP but that's wrong (https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro-nvs-440-pcie-x16.c1463)   As this is a dual GPU card will it "just work" in W98? 

[Tripredacus]

There is some issue with 512 MB VRAM in Win98 FE, but I haven't dug into what it is exactly.

[Dixel]

It detects something like 128Mb or so. Like XP detects only approx. 2Gb out of 6GB GPU.

[defuser]

8 hours ago, Methanoid said:

Q: if Quadro FX 4500 is supported... does it just work as it has 512Mb ram and I hear that causes problems with Win98?  And can I select resolutions above 1024x768?? Considering buying one for other reasons

Yes, the Quadro FX 4500 (G70) works acceptably with 512MB of video memory on board, at least with ForceWare 77.72 drivers (and higher), but only after installing a special patch.

For ForceWare 8X drivers.XX you will need the "PTCHNVSZ" package (By Rudolph R. Loew). With this package, you can fix the driver and/or the videobios so that it works correctly with this volume. It may also be necessary in other cases, as it contains several related fixes (FIXINTR, FIXEOI, Patch PCI.VxD) and other things that may be useful in some other cases (for more information, see MANUAL.TXT).

For the most trouble-free 9x compatible ForceWare 77.72 driver, you can use a different patch (Created by analogy with "PCHNVSZ", but suitable for the 77.72 version of the driver):
http://windows98.xf.cz/index.htm#NV7722PATCHED

I use a combination of these two options - "FIXEOI" and "PATCHOPT" from the "PCHNVSZ" package + the corrected NVCORE.VxD (From the link above), together with the ForceWare 77.72 driver (The latest version with which D3D\DirectDraw still works without problems). And also nvOpenGl.DLL from version 71.84 (As newer ones caused problems in OpenGL). And MTRR correction (Without which the speed of some indicators in 2D and under DOS on PCI-E cards is extremely low).

For G71 PCI-E, you will need at least ForceWare 8X. XX (With which there are a lot of still unresolved problems, in particular, with D3D\DDRAW). 77.72 doesn't have these issues yet.

Edited May 21 by defuser

[Methanoid]

On 5/21/2024 at 7:33 PM, defuser said:

Yes, the Quadro FX 4500 (G70) works acceptably with 512MB of video memory on board, at least with ForceWare 77.72 drivers (and higher), but only after installing a special patch.

For ForceWare 8X drivers.XX you will need the "PTCHNVSZ" package (By Rudolph R. Loew). With this package, you can fix the driver and/or the videobios so that it works correctly with this volume. It may also be necessary in other cases, as it contains several related fixes (FIXINTR, FIXEOI, Patch PCI.VxD) and other things that may be useful in some other cases (for more information, see MANUAL.TXT).

For the most trouble-free 9x compatible ForceWare 77.72 driver, you can use a different patch (Created by analogy with "PCHNVSZ", but suitable for the 77.72 version of the driver):
http://windows98.xf.cz/index.htm#NV7722PATCHED

I use a combination of these two options - "FIXEOI" and "PATCHOPT" from the "PCHNVSZ" package + the corrected NVCORE.VxD (From the link above), together with the ForceWare 77.72 driver (The latest version with which D3D\DirectDraw still works without problems). And also nvOpenGl.DLL from version 71.84 (As newer ones caused problems in OpenGL). And MTRR correction (Without which the speed of some indicators in 2D and under DOS on PCI-E cards is extremely low).

For G71 PCI-E, you will need at least ForceWare 8X. XX (With which there are a lot of still unresolved problems, in particular, with D3D\DDRAW). 77.72 doesn't have these issues yet.

Thanks, I've got the NVS440 now but there are so many patches to consider for W98. And I last used it in like 2000 :-)

[pangoomis]

NVS 440 might work since it's based on GeForce 6000 architecture, but only one of the GPUs will be used.