July 29Jul 29 I tried downloading NM28XP from this page at https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260725-d849524bd-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod.7z, as well as from https://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/, but it didn't work. At first, the download speed was 1800 bytes/s and supposedly took 5 hours, but then it stopped completely. Edited July 29Jul 29 by kiza124
July 29Jul 29 Our fellow member @soggi also hosts them on his web site if you wish to try it for faster downloads (scroll down about 3/4 of the way): https://soggi.org/misc/tools.htm
July 30Jul 30 Yes, thanks, it downloaded quickly from this page. There's even an interesting version for Windows x64 with AVX2. I tried this version, but after unzipping and running the palemoon.exe file, Win11 Pro displays a security message: "Unable to verify the publisher. Are you sure you want to run this program?" I previously had palemoon-28.10.7a1-20250823 (Win32 version), downloaded from https://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/, and it didn't display such messages. Edited July 30Jul 30 by kiza124
July 30Jul 30 @kiza124 Perhaps below article is relevant on Win11 : https://www.ssl2buy.com/wiki/how-to-fix-unknown-publisher-warning 5 hours ago, kiza124 said: I previously had palemoon-28.10.7a1-20250823 (Win32 version), ..., and it didn't display such messages. Was that even on Win11 ? AFAIAA, roytam1 does not digitally sign his browsers' executables with a proper file signature; and, if you used a browser under Win11 to download, then the downloaded file should contain an Internet Zone file stream, enough on its own to trigger the security warning under Win11... PS: In New Moon itself, I've always set "browser.download.saveZoneInformation" (from default 2) to 0, to get rid of that file stream ...
July 31Jul 31 Author New build of Serpent/UXP for XP! Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260801-3219d2d-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260801-3219d2d-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260801-3219d2d-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod-ia32.7z source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32 NM28XP build: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260801-d849524bd-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260801-d849524bd-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod-ia32.7z Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260801-d849524bd-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod-sse.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260801-d849524bd-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260801-d849524bd-uxp-bd1ccc490e-w7plus-avx2.7z Official UXP changes picked since my last build: - No Issue - Remove the half-life experiment in HTTP cache (da157b41a3) - [network] Add usrsctp TSN gap check. (105f231910) - [layout] Add corner-case correctness check in DottedCornerFinder::FindBestOverlap. (49c7e3445f) - [DOM] Stop accepting audio samples with too low sample rates. (5faa70e3aa) - No issue - CallUpdateWindow is [[nodiscard]], but we don't need to use the result here. (dbfe4bd5a6) - [parser] Associate image elements with form only if the form and the intended parent are in the same tree. (5ac81bf6ff) - Issue #2404 - Improvements to CSS aspect-ratio spec compliance (3905cc5bd5) - Issue #2404 - Fix aspect ratio sizing for grid items (8cf6c58858) - [image] Make sure the image was fully and cleanly decoded before finalizing its animation state as complete. (e252b3856a) - No issue - Use `strnlen` instead of `strnlen_s`. (5a765da5ca) - Bug 2029734: Flush before calling sctp_process_init() (44365a9dbc) - Bug 2049523 - Make ToJSValue for float consistent with double. (db7d9c4c76) - Issue #2404 - Split aspect ratio enum types into a separate header to fix compilation issues (d6022d3847) - Bug 2045742 (34cb4816c2) - [DOM media] Perform more thorough checks on video regions. (06e746865c) - Issue #3061 Follow-up: Remove network tickler prefs (0f9c761769) - [layout] Fix nsFrameSetFrame primary frame handling of replicated children. (e5b3bc7cf9) - [network] Fix CacheEntry::mDoomCallback data race. (9111049721) - Bug 2027349 - reject empty nickname in PK11_TraverseCertsForNicknameInSlot. (3d7dbc8fb9) - Bug 2027362 - bound usageCount in PK11_UnwrapPrivKey to keyTemplate capacity. (ec58fff3ca) - Bug 2029901 - Guard against keySize overflow in IKE PRF/PRF+ output sizing. (1ed628fe3a) - Bug 2027373 - guard space subtraction in ssl_CallCustomExtensionSenders. (97201f8758) - Bug 2027371 - rewrite labelLen bound in tls13_HkdfExpandLabelGeneral to avoid unsigned overflow. (7af0472879) - Bug 2027346 - validate encoded EC params length and tag in SECKEY_ECParamsToKeySize/BasePointOrderLen. (0bcb0f57ff) - Bug 2029807 - Guard padding read against empty output in SEC_PKCS7DecryptContents. (4cf35f7b33) - Issue #3153 - Make sure buttons report a definite size for flex containers. Second try, this time ONLY do it for flex container or grids. This should prevent layout problems in non-flex scenarios. (cd90cc0fd7) - Bug 2030563 - Validate CKA_CERTIFICATE_TYPE ulValueLen in nss_cert_type_from_ck_attrib. (2be3800e92) - Bug 2027325 - Reject empty nickname in PK11_TraverseCertsForNicknameInSlot. (1a603bfe9e) - Bug 2030102 - avoid leaving a dangling ss->sec.ci.sid on allocation failure. (5dd26d41f6) - Bug 2032110 - fix two integer overflows on LLP64 systems. (79a227055a) - Bug 2027364 - Set tail pointer to null in static slot lists when deallocating. (f167cb61ee) - Bug 2028954 - CERT_DecodeAVAValue — Integer Overflow in Output Buffer Sizing. (c4cf8cf6e3) - Bug 2029433 - Bounds-check wrap index in PK11_GetWrapKey to match PK11_SetWrapKey. (23dc9da219) - Bug 2027353 - clamp input.len to testString size in pk11_mergeSecretKey. (4ce8d28c03) - Bug 2043887 - guard against integer overflow in CERT_Hexify. (73995df3a6) No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build. No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build. My changes picked since my last build: - nss: update certdata and bump ckbi version to 2.90 (e5c222be77) Update Notice: - You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases. * Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.
July 31Jul 31 Author New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260801-40a79c75-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260801-40a79c75-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260801-id-656ea98-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260801-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild
July 31Jul 31 Author New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP! * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual. ** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions. Test binary: Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20260801-6d3683c75-xpmod.7z Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20260801-6d3683c75-xpmod.7z repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55 Repo changes: - nss: update certdata and bump ckbi version to 2.90 (355bf04c8) - ported from UXP: No Issue - Remove the half-life experiment in HTTP cache (da157b41) (bce086a0a) - import from UXP: [network] Add usrsctp TSN gap check. (105f2319) (728de5fca) - import from UXP: [layout] Add corner-case correctness check in DottedCornerFinder::FindBestOverlap. (49c7e344) (a3b30ecb4) - import from UXP: [DOM] Stop accepting audio samples with too low sample rates. (5faa70e3) (fc10655b1) - ported from UXP: No issue - CallUpdateWindow is [[nodiscard]], but we don't need to use the result here. (dbfe4bd5) (fba643271) - import from UXP: [parser] Associate image elements with form only if the form and the intended parent are in the same tree. (5ac81bf6) (4b03e6446) - ported from UXP: Issue #2404 - Improvements to CSS aspect-ratio spec compliance (3905cc5b) (608ee78c0) - import from UXP: Issue #2404 - Fix aspect ratio sizing for grid items (8cf6c588) (5543f2f7b) - ported from UXP: [image] Make sure the image was fully and cleanly decoded before finalizing its animation state as complete. (e252b385) (4ff326881) - import from UXP: No issue - Use `strnlen` instead of `strnlen_s`. (5a765da5) (0316c9693) - import from UXP: Bug 2029734: Flush before calling sctp_process_init() (44365a9d) (58c4ece42) - import from UXP: Bug 2049523 - Make ToJSValue for float consistent with double. (db7d9c4c) (6d01a86e0) - ported from UXP: Issue #2404 - Split aspect ratio enum types into a separate header to fix compilation issuesv (d6022d38) (2483193ab) - import from UXP: Bug 2045742 (34cb4816) (3a6f3cf12) - import from UXP: [DOM media] Perform more thorough checks on video regions. (06e74686) (3c8e85ed5) - import from UXP: Issue #3061 Follow-up: Remove network tickler prefs (0f9c7617) (2b3618cd1) - import from UXP: [layout] Fix nsFrameSetFrame primary frame handling of replicated children. (e5b3bc7c) (430c8d60d) - import from UXP: [network] Fix CacheEntry::mDoomCallback data race. (91110497) (9be45a990) - ported from UXP: Issue #3153 - Make sure buttons report a definite size for flex containers. Second try, this time ONLY do it for flex container or grids. This should prevent layout problems in non-flex scenarios. (cd90cc0f) (5099ec3fe) - import from UXP: - Bug 2027349 - reject empty nickname in PK11_TraverseCertsForNicknameInSlot. (3d7dbc8fb9) - Bug 2027362 - bound usageCount in PK11_UnwrapPrivKey to keyTemplate capacity. (ec58fff3ca) - Bug 2029901 - Guard against keySize overflow in IKE PRF/PRF+ output sizing. (1ed628fe3a) - Bug 2027373 - guard space subtraction in ssl_CallCustomExtensionSenders. (97201f8758) - Bug 2027371 - rewrite labelLen bound in tls13_HkdfExpandLabelGeneral to avoid unsigned overflow. (7af0472879) - Bug 2027346 - validate encoded EC params length and tag in SECKEY_ECParamsToKeySize/BasePointOrderLen. (0bcb0f57ff) - Bug 2029807 - Guard padding read against empty output in SEC_PKCS7DecryptContents. (4cf35f7b33) - Bug 2030563 - Validate CKA_CERTIFICATE_TYPE ulValueLen in nss_cert_type_from_ck_attrib. (2be3800e92) - Bug 2027325 - Reject empty nickname in PK11_TraverseCertsForNicknameInSlot. (1a603bfe9e) - Bug 2030102 - avoid leaving a dangling ss->sec.ci.sid on allocation failure. (5dd26d41f6) - Bug 2032110 - fix two integer overflows on LLP64 systems. (79a227055a) - Bug 2027364 - Set tail pointer to null in static slot lists when deallocating. (f167cb61ee) - Bug 2028954 - CERT_DecodeAVAValue — Integer Overflow in Output Buffer Sizing. (c4cf8cf6e3) - Bug 2029433 - Bounds-check wrap index in PK11_GetWrapKey to match PK11_SetWrapKey. (23dc9da219) - Bug 2027353 - clamp input.len to testString size in pk11_mergeSecretKey. (4ce8d28c03) - Bug 2043887 - guard against integer overflow in CERT_Hexify. (73995df3a6) (6d3683c75)
August 1Aug 1 @roytam1 Hi, downloads no longer work on GitHub with the latest versions 52 and 55 of Basilisk (2026-07-31 and 2026-07-24). Clicking on “Assets” does not display the available files for download. There are no issues with the versions from July 17, 2026. Thanks a lot for your great work
August 1Aug 1 7 hours ago, Andalu said: Clicking on “Assets” does not display the available files for download. ... I can also confirm in latest NM28 (32-bit) [SSE2 variant, buildID=20260731074735] : https://github.com/violentmonkey/violentmonkey/releases/tag/v2.46.0 => In addition, GitHub no longer displays "relative" timestamps (the absolute timestamp displays for fractions of a second, then replaced by whitespace); in above screencap, look close to "github-actions released this ..." Some JS/CSS is broken... TypeError: e.adoptedStyleSheets is undefined[Learn More] 78205-75aff589688e0be2.js:64:215 Below, how things should look (r3dfox-140):
August 2Aug 2 TBH, there is actually no need to directly update New Moon 28 when a new update is available. The release from 2026-06-27 is running fine here. Maybe, we should stop playing guinea pigs for the Windows XP haters on the Pale Moon forum. Their current release is 34.3.1 from 2026-06-24, and therefore GitHub will probably still run well in their current Pale Moon release https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=33602. They may feel free to be this time the first to struggle with the faulty updates. I've been a bit behind on updating for a while now. Strictly according to the motto: Never change a running system! At least for a few weeks. Edited August 2Aug 2 by AstroSkipper
August 3Aug 3 3 hours ago, AstroSkipper said: The release from 2026-06-27 is running fine here. With regards to GitHub being broken in UXP browsers, the last GOOD NM28 build is: palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260718-d849524bd-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod whereas the next release, palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260725-d849524bd-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod is the first BAD one ; so, the regression window is: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/compare/edd86c9a9d...30427c0213 @roytam1, do you think you can spot the culprit? (perhaps Issue #3144 - Implement CSSStyleSheet replaceSync ?) The release assets and relative timestamp issues are both due to the same root cause, as they're both fine in the "last good" build: Thanks in advance ...
August 3Aug 3 8 hours ago, VistaLover said: With regards to GitHub being broken in UXP browsers, the last GOOD NM28 build is: palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260718-d849524bd-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod Thanks! And yes, I know that. It has been reported here. However, my statement had a completely different intention. I try to stay some releases behind. As the release from 2026-06-27 is running fine here and quite close to PM 34.3.1 from 2026-06-24, there is no need for me to update at the moment. I don’t need regressions at the time and am trying to avoid them. Once the regressions reach MCP's Pale Moon, a solution will surely be found. Unless, of course, @roytam1 has a solution for this first. Unfortunately, however, he isn’t particularly talkative. Edited August 3Aug 3 by AstroSkipper Update of content
August 3Aug 3 Author 22 hours ago, VistaLover said: With regards to GitHub being broken in UXP browsers, the last GOOD NM28 build is: palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260718-d849524bd-uxp-edd86c9a9d-xpmod whereas the next release, palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260725-d849524bd-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod is the first BAD one ; so, the regression window is: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/compare/edd86c9a9d...30427c0213 @roytam1, do you think you can spot the culprit? (perhaps Issue #3144 - Implement CSSStyleSheet replaceSync ?) The release assets and relative timestamp issues are both due to the same root cause, as they're both fine in the "last good" build: Thanks in advance ... yes it is, someone filed an issue about it in upstream and it shows that github makes bad assumption. https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/issues/3154#issuecomment-48034
August 3Aug 3 On 7/31/2026 at 7:30 PM, roytam1 said: New build of BOC/UXP for XP! Test binary: MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260801-40a79c75-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260801-40a79c75-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom * Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15. -- New build of HBL-UXP for XP! Test binary: IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260801-id-656ea98-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260801-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild Anyone have suggestions for minimize to tray for Mailnews on XP? I tried FireTray but it does not seem to work. EDIT: MinTrayR 1.3.2 seems to work. Edited August 3Aug 3 by mockingbird
August 4Aug 4 8 hours ago, mockingbird said: Anyone have suggestions for minimize to tray for Mailnews on XP? I tried FireTray but it does not seem to work. EDIT: MinTrayR 1.3.2 seems to work. I implemented in my ProxHTTPSProxy's PopMenu TLS 1.3 3V3 package the tool Min2Tray which I therefore have been using for years. So I can minimise any other programme to the systray as well. That was the best I could find. Edited August 4Aug 4 by AstroSkipper
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