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Anyone have suggestions for minimize to tray for Mailnews on XP? I tried FireTray but it does not seem to work. EDIT: MinTrayR 1.3.2 seems to work.

@roytam1I am using the latest Mailnews binary in Windows XP - version 52.9.9609a1 (2026-04-30) (32-bit). The tray icon functionality seems broken (there is no tray icon at all). My intended goal is to use this with FireTray (which is compatible with TB 52) so that I can have it minimized there and have message notifications pop up there. Please advise. Thanks.

Huh? I am completely confused by this post.

Thanks, I will try to compile myself with support, maybe also an AVX2 version for my Haswell Win7 PC.

Does anyone know if the default builds are compiled for SSE4.x/AVX? I have Thorium-Win7 on my Ivy Bridge, but the author hasn't updated it in a while and I want to switch. Thanks

Just replicate my conditions: -multiprocess mode enabled -direct3d enabled and forced, webgl enabled and forced Graphics card is 7th generation nVidia. Open a private window, launch youtube Open a normal window, launch youtube browse around for a little and it will crash. In Thorium, everything is ok -- it acts strange because it runs out of memory with too much stuff open, but it is usable.

I get error with vcruntime140.dll after a while putting it through its paces.

@feodor2 Do this: Go to youtube. Next, open a private window and open youtube. Log into your account on youtube in the private window. Do this for a while and browse websites in the normal window... Eventually, it will crash after a day.

Try getting a later version and modify the INF with your device ID and then force install it and see if that works.

6200 should be supported... Anything DirectX 9 should work. Try updating your driver.

It's working great for me...

Look what came out today: v1.2.0.5058 (2024.05.28) [+] XP: Added support for Hardware Accelerated rendering for XP. With it, browser will use less CPU to render pages, and while playing videos. To use, run it with switches: --use-angle=d3d9 --ignore-gpu-blocklist. With it, you will see this features in about:gpu for XP, as you see it on NT6+ systems. Wow! Time to test this out!

@Fedor - The latest version crashed for me after a while on vcruntime dll... It was stable for a day though... I set the tab process count to 3 from 1, maybe that's why. I have to go back to Thorium for now.

Look through RLOEW's patches for the VFAT fix... It occurs when you have is memory patch installed and then install a network card.

I spoke too soon on 68.14.1b and it did indeed crash on xul.dll for me, so I'll give this one a shot. Thanks

Chalkboard is a very old (>10 years) benchmark released by Microsoft for IE10... HWACCEL (notify me if you want this benchmark) is an even older benchmark released by Mozilla ages and ages ago when they started experimenting with DirectX 9 support for Firefox. HWACCEL is great for testing whether layer acceleration is working and I find it useful for checking whether MyPal is functioning correctly (MyPal is now what I consider to be stable and also supports DirectX9 acceleration, but it is far, far slower than Thorium on XP). Chalkboard and HWACCEL are not what I would consider to be benchmarks today, but rather sanity checks to see if the browser is functioning correctly since they are experimental by nature. If Chalkboard is underperforming in Thorium or HWACCEL in MyPal then it's an easy way to know right away.

check out "chrome://flags" and "chrome://gpu". In flags, you can disable rasterization manually without touching the acceleration settings in Chrome and then verify the result in chrome://gpu. FYI, I ran some more tests to demonstrate what I was saying before about benefiting from disabling hardware rasterization on older GPUs. In all cases, the CPU is a 4th gen Haswell. For the iGPU, the tests were run on Windows 7. For the 1660, it was run on Windows 10. iGPU with rasterization enabled: iGPU with rasterization disabled: GeForce 1660 with rasterization enabled: The GTX1660 is about 5 times faster in Chrome than the integrated GPU and about twice as fast as the GCN 1st Gen Radeon HD7770 (the HD7770 test was done with Thorium AVX on a 3rd gen Ivy Bridge though, but that probably doesn't make any difference). Who said software rendering was dead?

@feodor2 - I must say the latest version (68.14.1b) is working great for me so far on XP. I have D3D and Multiprocess enabled and so far it is completely stable. I'm very tempted to use this instead of Thorium. Great job!

It's been like this for ages -- years... A minor version update won't produce a different result... In my opinion, Chrome GPU rasterization is hit and miss when it comes to GPUs. For 4th generation Core CPUs (haswell) IGP, I turn it off. I leave it on for the Radeon HD7770 even though it's twice as slow as software rasterization.

Not necessarily. Here is my chalkboard benchmark result for Thorium on XP: Now here is the same benchmark for Thorium on my Windows 7 machine that sports a 1st gen Radeon GCN variant (HD7770): As you can see, GPU rasterization isn't all that its cracked up to be... Perhaps it's faster on much newer GPUs, but you often get better performance from Chrome by disabling it. Now other GPU acceleration (video acceleration, WebGL) would probably be nice... Windows XP is perfectly capable of that... Maybe someone can write a redirection driver from DirectX12 to DirectX9 for Chrome.

Thanks!!! This practically solved the following for me: 1) Tabs sometimes crashing 2) Youtube videos stop playing and needing to be reloaded in a fresh tab 3) Sites not loading and needing to be opened in a new tab Great work!

Let's employ some Aristotelian logic in the form syllogism: Premise: 1) Supermium has memory leaks on XP 2) Supermium crashes on XP 3) Thorium is completely stable on XP Conclusion: Thorium is different from Supermium. I don't know what he's doing differently, but whatever it is that he's doing, the result is a product that I can actually use... MyPal and Supermium are nice, but for now, the only stable browsers in my opinion with any degree of functionality in XP are Thorium , 360Chrome, and Serpent (and perhaps possibly other @roytam1 browsers I've not looked into). Yes, MyPal works in theory, but has nowhere near the degree of stability of FF52-based Serpent when hardware acceleration is enabled. 360Chrome was my daily driver for a while, but it is no longer being updated and it was rough around the edges. I've had the same instance of Thorium running on XP with no stability issues at all. It's not perfect, it won't work with certain sites, but it's an excellent daily driver for an XP machine, the best out there right now.

Thorium isn't re-badged Supermium. The Thorium-Legacy XP build uses progwrp.dll from Supermium -- that doesn't make it a re-badge. I use Thorium on ALL my computers... The flexibility is excellent because they have specialized Windows 7 builds for particular instruction sets... My Ivy bridge gets Thorium-AVX. My Haswell gets Thorium-AVX2, etc... This said, I left Thorium open all night on my XP machine - it is perfectly stable so far, with no memory leaks -- something Supermium could not do.

Has anyone tried the new Thorium build for Windows XP? https://github.com/Alex313031/thorium-legacy/releases It's stable for me (unlike Supermium)... Looks like it's time to ditch 360 Chrome, finally.