pcalvert Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 Since I was planning to make the switch to Windows 11 in the near future, I was really hoping that Microsoft would give me some good reasons to like Windows 11. Unfortunately, instead they have given me a very good reason to hate Windows 11. For a good understanding of what I am referring to, I recommend watching this video: CoPilot+ PCs, Windows Recall, Keylogging Privacy Invasions! Here's a short description from the above web page: "Microsoft made some recent changes to Windows 11 which abuses privacy in multiple ways. But remember that Microsoft is not alone. The move to break our privacy with AI is something the competition started with first. Now they're playing catch up but doing so in the most aggressive way with the help of OpenAI." 1
D.Draker Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 You, maybe, all others will bend to it. A couple years from now, when all browsers will quit working on 10, you will, too. Especially if we assume you already wanted to. 3
j7n Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 There is probably a professional Enterprise or Server version of Windows without that Copilot stuff. But we got a long time before Windows 11 is needed.
sonyu Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 (edited) Windows XP: "My Computer" (100% sure it's mine) Windows Vista: "Computer" (just "a" pc but is not clear who is the owner) Windows 8.1: "This PC" (just "this" pc... but...it is mine?) Windows 10: "MS Computer" ( oh oh) Windows 11: "MS Service" (is not your pc anymore since you can't control windows update or what's happening in the background... ) Edited December 21, 2024 by sonyu 3
sunryze Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 Copilot has been failing miserably as well, too. Microsoft wants to rename it to Windows AI / Intelligence, and business companies aren't really finding it that interesting. Plus, most OEMs are just opting for Google's AI. Microsoft has failed (once again!) to get into the AI / Assistant space. I expect Copilot to eventually go the way of Cortana at some point. 1
j7n Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 I didn't like the my prefix "My" prefix. Imagine you are instructing another person to do something, and tell him to "open my computer" or my documents (not yours but his). There are still some sybolic links to "My" folders on Windows 2008 R2. I always rename the my computer to something descriptive according to a brand of the computer itself or its owner or its curent role. I don't get why they introduced the term "This PC". Maybe Computer seemed to general. These days computers increasingly ofter are called "devices". I don't think it is called MS Computer anywhere.
Manoes Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 (edited) Windows XP was working like Young girl(18-23), but without makeup. Windows 11 works like old lady (80-90), It is looks like young women, who got so much makeup to show up. Microsoft got so much headweight because of the less competitor for them. If some one create an OS that support to run any windows programs without any issue, Microsoft will fall apart. Edited December 21, 2024 by Manoes 2
D.Draker Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 21 hours ago, j7n said: I didn't like the my prefix "My" prefix. Imagine you are instructing another person to do something, and tell him to "open my computer" or my documents (not yours but his). There are still some sybolic links to "My" folders on Windows 2008 R2. I always rename the my computer to something descriptive according to a brand of the computer itself or its owner or its curent role. I don't get why they introduced the term "This PC". Maybe Computer seemed to general. These days computers increasingly ofter are called "devices". I don't think it is called MS Computer anywhere. It's very simple, MS cuts the corners by hiring foreigners, All their terms look like they were written by someone who doesn't feel English like it was his native language, And it's obviously someone non-Western European. And I agree with you, just "computer "is enough. That simplistic "joke" about "MY, or not MY PC" has a huge beard, and it wasn't funny to begin with. I also remember, I even met some rather terrible mistakes in Windows UI.
D.Draker Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 11 hours ago, Manoes said: Windows XP was working like Young girl(18-23), but without makeup. It's subjective, When I updated XP to SP2, it was slow as hell on that Era hardware. Fortunately, I only stuck with XP for a very limited time. I jumped from Millennium to Vista.
D.Draker Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 10 hours ago, D.Draker said: MS cuts the corners by hiring foreigners, All their terms look like they were written by someone who doesn't feel English like it was his native language, Yeah, and add to this list that creepy "We are checking your PC". Who's "we"?
D.Draker Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 11 hours ago, D.Draker said: "We are checking your PC". Who's "we"? The next step in the imminent degradation could be: "Voices in the head tell us, it's broken".
Manoes Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 2 hours ago, D.Draker said: It's subjective, When I updated XP to SP2, it was slow as hell on that Era hardware Nope mate. I think it may be because of your hardware glitch. I was using P4 HT, intel MB.. It was super fast.. It was working like super computer.. 1
sonyu Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, D.Draker said: The next step in the imminent degradation could be: "Voices in the head tell us, it's broken". 1 hour ago, Manoes said: Nope mate. I think it may be because of your hardware glitch. I was using P4 HT, intel MB.. It was super fast.. It was working like super computer.. yes, installing XP on low-end hardware, coming with Vista RTM / SP0 pre-installed, was the best you can do back in 2006-2009 era. It feels like having much powerful hardware so... installing XP on a Celeron coming with Vista feels like having almost an intel i3 Edited December 21, 2024 by sonyu
UCyborg Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 (edited) Computer didn't feel like mine with XP, had to look for workarounds to get it running when MS deemed I activated it too many times. That thingie I found patched winlogon.exe. XP was the start of phone-home in MS software. I ran Vista on a 2 GHz Celeron, it was OK, just loaded a bit slower. The graphics driver for poor GeForce4 MX 440 included was better than what you got on NVIDIA site without looking for older version, newest one slowed down all games to the point of making them unplayable. Even HP DeskJet 3550 printer just worked. I think it was rare to install Windows and have all hardware working out of the box without messing around with drivers. Edited December 23, 2024 by UCyborg Wording
Dibya Posted January 9 Posted January 9 My new laptop [Asus Vivobook Pro 16] came with Windows 11, i am hating it, honestly it is 10x times worse than Windows 10. Windows 10 on first boot takes 2GB of RAM with all my CAD and Visual Studio install, 11 on fresh system consuming 6 gb + ram. What kind of bloatware is this? Some of my insider friend inside Microsoft said with Windows 12 it will get worse, some components in Windows 11 Shell is React Native, but majority will be react native in windows 12. 2
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