NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 15 minutes ago, D.Draker said: Please don't place Canadian laws in one row with those, it's no good to lump them altogether. Here, I'll fix it for you... US entities must comply with US (rather than Russian, Canadian, or Sharia) law. Simply how US law works. waka waka waka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66cats Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 7 minutes ago, D.Draker said: warned in advance That a US company may comply with US law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Draker Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 11 hours ago, 66cats said: That a US company may comply with US law? No, I think I wrote very clear, in a very simple English. Not the first time other people and I notice troubles with your translation software. "Any user, who is going to join, needs to be warned in advance that he will be forced to adhere to the laws of the welcoming entity." In other words, hey foreigner, follow the US laws, or be banned. Where did I write "company"? https://msfn.org/board/topic/186333-vxkex-extended-kernel-project-dissapeared/?do=findComment&comment=1270171 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 12 hours ago, 66cats said: US entities must comply with US (rather than Russian, Canadian, or Sharia) law. "Russian Businesses Can Now Legally Steal Intellectual Property from ‘Unfriendly Countries’" "As of Monday, March 7, 2022, the Russian government has legalised intellectual property (IP) theft. With this move, businesses in Russia can now violate IP rights, as they no longer need to compensate patent holders from “unfriendly countries.” The list of “unfriendly countries” includes the United States, Canada, Australia, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland, the United Kingdom, Japan, South Korea, New Zealand, Singapore, Taiwan and all 27 European Union (EU) member countries." That includes software. https://ipwatchdog.com/2022/03/16/russian-businesses-can-now-legally-steal-intellectual-property-unfriendly-countries/id=147528/ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroSkipper Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 7 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: To me, even POSReady2009 is a "leaked" entity being ILLEGALLY used by "thousands". Maybe for you. Otherwise, the statement you keep making is simply nonsense. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66cats Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 3 minutes ago, D.Draker said: Any user, who is going to join, needs to be warned in advance that he will be forced to adhere to the laws of the welcoming entity." Sorry if i didn't make myself clear, i'll try again: why would you expect GitHub (a US company) to warn users that it may follow US law? Seems self-evident to me. 15 minutes ago, D.Draker said: translation software A bit of an idee fixe (your native tongue?) for you. Let me reassure you, i'm a US national, posting from US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 11 hours ago, 66cats said: A bit of an idee fixe (your native tongue?) You're fixed on @D.Draker's native tongue? Good choice, French is marvellous. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroSkipper Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 3 minutes ago, Dixel said: "Russian Businesses Can Now Legally Steal Intellectual Property from ‘Unfriendly Countries’" "As of Monday, March 7, 2022, the Russian government has legalised intellectual property (IP) theft. With this move, businesses in Russia can now violate IP rights, as they no longer need to compensate patent holders from “unfriendly countries.” The list of “unfriendly countries” includes the United States, Canada, Australia, Switzerland, Norway, Iceland, the United Kingdom, Japan, South Korea, New Zealand, Singapore, Taiwan and all 27 European Union (EU) member countries." That includes software. https://ipwatchdog.com/2022/03/16/russian-businesses-can-now-legally-steal-intellectual-property-unfriendly-countries/id=147528/ There are countries that make the world the way they like it. Just like Pippi Longstocking. Laws and morals play no role there. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 11 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said: Just like Pippi Longstocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroSkipper Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 56 minutes ago, AstroSkipper said: There are countries that make the world the way they like it. Just like Pippi Longstocking. Laws and morals play no role there. The good thing about fairy tales is that they always have an ending. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user57 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 15 hours ago, AstroSkipper said: There are countries that make the world the way they like it. Just like Pippi Longstocking. Laws and morals play no role there. oh oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 On 8/2/2024 at 8:48 AM, 66cats said: Sorry if i didn't make myself clear, i'll try again: why would you expect GitHub (a US company) to warn users that it may follow US law? Seems self-evident to me. Self-evident is another very important matter, and I quote. "2. We have the right to refuse or remove any User-Generated Content that, in our sole discretion, violates any laws or GitHub terms or policies. User-Generated Content displayed on GitHub Mobile may be subject to mobile app stores' additional terms." In light of the fact I posted yesterday, about the Russian government that has officially legalised intellectual property theft and made it a law. In the quote above, Github declares it may act on any laws, not only US laws, so it may allow Russians to steal members' intellectual property, and those members can't do anything about it, they had been warned, and accepted github terms. For example, Russians write to github and demand them to open up someone's work, or take it down. But if a Russian member hosts stolen property on github, it's all according to their "law", so all is "fine". Sources: https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/github-terms/github-terms-of-service https://ipwatchdog.com/2022/03/16/russian-businesses-can-now-legally-steal-intellectual-property-unfriendly-countries/id=147528/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) for @66cats. In other, very simple words, the alleged American company Github declares it can prosecute members using any laws, For example, prosecute a member from Canada using Russian laws. EDIT. I'd never join such website. Edited August 3 by Dixel 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 32 minutes ago, Dixel said: For example, prosecute a member from Canada using Russian laws. Where do you see evidence of this? Perhaps a different topic should be started. If it were a few others derailing this thread, the "Birds of a Feather" would be shouting off-topic and liking each other's post telling other members to stay on topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixel Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 11 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: Where do you see evidence of this? Perhaps a different topic should be started. If it were a few others derailing this thread, the "Birds of a Feather" would be shouting off-topic and liking each other's post telling other members to stay on topic. First and foremost, it's not off-topic, github declares it. Read their terms of service. https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/github-terms/github-terms-of-service What is it exactly you don't understand? They can't use "any" laws. Evidence is they they took down the Kernel project and their open statement in the terms. "2. We have the right to refuse or remove any User-Generated Content that, in our sole discretion, violates any laws or GitHub terms or policies. User-Generated Content displayed on GitHub Mobile may be subject to mobile app stores' additional terms." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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