Thorium

[AstroSkipper]

42 minutes ago, Dave-H said:

Anyway, back on topic now!

TBH, I asked you whether syncing in Thorium works although it is a Chromium browser. Actually, it shouldn't work as Google is supposed to not allow this anymore.  So, my question was totally on topic. 

[Dave-H]

Fair enough.
It was our talk about Android browsers that I was mainly saying was off-topic.
As you why sync still works on Thorium and Supermium if it's not supposed to, I have no idea, I'm just glad that it does work!

[AstroSkipper]

I have noticed that the more recent versions of uBlock Origin, especially the version 1.58 and the development builds 1.58.x, do not work properly in Thorium. Thus, I went back to the version 1.49.2 as it seems to work as usual. All in the legacy SSE2 Win XP release of Thorium. Did anyone also observe problems with recent versions of uBlock Origin in Thorium? 

[Dixel]

5 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

Thus, I went back to the version 1.49.2 as it seems to work as usual.

Could be the engine is still at 109 chrome?

All new uBlock versions work as expected in other ports.

[Dixel]

On 6/8/2024 at 6:06 PM, 66cats said:

BTW, you got me doubting the whole passwords/cookies thing worked,

Hi, well, I checked again, and passwords are saved, but cookies aren't functioning.

[Dave-H]

2 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

I have noticed that the more recent versions of uBlock Origin, especially the version 1.58 and the development builds 1.58.x, do not work properly in Thorium. Thus, I went back to the version 1.49.2 as it seems to work as usual. All in the legacy SSE2 Win XP release of Thorium. Did anyone also observe problems with recent versions of uBlock Origin in Thorium? 

I'm using uBlock Origin 1.58.0 with the SSE4 version of Thorium Legacy on XP, and it seems to be working fine.

[chermany4ever]

10 hours ago, UCyborg said:

death is the only just thing in this world

Imagine you go to the hospital 'cause you feel unwell and the Doc says "ah go home, in the end you die". If Mozart had had that mentality he wouldn't have left us his great music that has stimulated intelligence, happiness and the will to live in millions of other human beings, although he didn't live long. In short, I don't think we should downplay importance of millions of things life involves 'cause of death. Even software. You said sometimes you entertain yourself by re-programming. I love software because I feel it makes our lives easier. Sometimes we're annoyed by what software does on our machine... but what software do we install on ourselves? I think we humans are still very unaware of the impact our attitudes can have on the lives of others.

11 hours ago, UCyborg said:

I just got rid of both Supermium and Thorium on my system

I'm thinking of doing the same. Discarded Supermium 'cause it destroyed my system. I'm having more patience with Thorium 'cause it works better and you've helped me a lot to make it more stable on my system but I feel it's too heavy, I don't depend on Google for anything, I don't Sync, so I feel much more comfortable with 360 Chrome 13.5 Redux1 ungoogled. It's very light, it works very well, I even was able to install a couple of security extensions and it doesn't accumulate any space on my disks. I feel with Serpent and 360Chrome I'm fine for my browsing needs. At least for now. As I always say, I recognise the effort and as another fellow here said, I totally agree: the more options the better.

7 hours ago, UCyborg said:

was just curious about what people actually do on their computers

Thought it was irony! I'm a musician, I love the arts, I've made my machine the perfect home theatre for me. Music, movies, forums. Very little social media these days 'cause I think they're completely polluted with fear mongering and yellow journalism. I'm very interested in the opposite of that. So I follow a few people I find interesting and uplifting.

7 hours ago, UCyborg said:

@chermany4ever brought up rebelling against trends

Sometimes I leave a lot to context thinking what I say is understood. I wanna clarify I was referring to what I believe is a consumerist tendency that dictates that, for instance, next year your mobile phone won't work 'cause it won't be compatible with "something" so you'll have to buy another one, and so on and so on and so on. What we do here and in other spaces shows with some work, wit and will you can move forward without spending much or paying for ignorance or as the guys working on Linux show, you don't need to use way too many resources to have an up to date experience.

I understand that often new structures need new bases but I also understand that it's possible to make new structures work on used bases if it does no harm.

[Dixel]

7 hours ago, AstroSkipper said:

uBlock Origin, especially the version 1.58 and the development builds 1.58.x, do not work properly in Thorium. Thus, I went back to the version 1.49.2 as it seems to work as usual.

A long time ago, I noticed a bug in uBlock, when you spoof your UA to some odd ones (like Firefox on iOS), it behaves oddly, not updating lists, etc.

Try with the default UA.

[UCyborg]

15 hours ago, Dave-H said:

It was our talk about Android browsers that I was mainly saying was off-topic.

I wonder why we have the entire Android subforum.

@chermany4ever
Thank you for detailed response, it means a lot! My mood can vary wildly and I'm a bit down in recent times. Sometimes I want to do something new on my own and even what's supposed to be easy relatively speaking turns out to be challenging for me. It's depressing.

I suspected the trends you mentioned were the ones you had in mind initially. I tried to imply at the later point running Chromium-based browser might still be trendy, even if not running it on legacy systems specifically. I still have Supermium on XP x64 installation, only deleted it and Thorium from Win11. I might still try out the upcoming Supermium build on XP to see how it'll be able to use the GPU.

[66cats]

2 hours ago, UCyborg said:

I might still try out the upcoming Supermium build on XP to see how it'll be able to use the GPU

Will the next build support HW acceleration? If you're talking about IDA-RE-things' progwrp.dll, it depends on the GPU (since it's running with  --ignore-gpu-blocklist). Works well with Titan X & 980ti, glitchy to the point of being unusable with GTX 770 (YT freezes after a few seconds).

[Dixel]

8 hours ago, 66cats said:

glitchy to the point of being unusable with GTX 770 (YT freezes after a few seconds).

And then you ask me why I disable all acceleration on my Titan (from the same 7 series)! I even have much worse result, it spikes to the max all the time. GTX770 is a re-branded GTX680, which would be 12-13 years now (or more).

Probably try older drivers? People reported somewhat decent results with 347.26 or 355.xx (iCafe).

[UCyborg]

6 hours ago, 66cats said:

Will the next build support HW acceleration?

Post on win32's Patreon suggests it could.

6 hours ago, 66cats said:

If you're talking about IDA-RE-things' progwrp.dll

Nah, I'm waiting for win32. I would expect something along the lines of the build at https://storage.googleapis.com/chromium-browser-continuous/index.html?prefix=Win/291943/ quality/stability wise.

[Skorpios]

"M122 R4 (Incomplete Release)"
https://github.com/Alex313031/thorium-legacy/releases/tag/122.0.6261.171

Notable improvements:

"Patches for major security vulnerabilities CVE-2024-4671 and CVE-2024-4947 were backported from M124.

Also, there is a new progwrp implementation not from win32ss that is less stable, but allows hardware accelerated rendering on Windows XP > https://github.com/IDA-RE-things/Chrome-xp-api-adapter/releases Fixes #93"
 

[66cats]

2 hours ago, Dixel said:

355.xx

Using 355.98 across the board. BTW, it's just AV1 decoding that freezes, VP9 works fine. Good chance i just haven't run across any AV1 vids with 9xx cards, will test again & update this post.

Edit: Everything works with 9xxx.

Edited June 10, 2024 by 66cats

[Dixel]

4 hours ago, 66cats said:

it's just AV1 decoding that freezes,

AV1 decoding isn't natively supported with the 7th series of nVidia. But then again, it's the browser's fault, Thorium would need to fall back to just software decoding instead of glitching out.