Windows 11 Is The Worst Windows Ever Period.

[UCyborg]

Do they have problems beyond "OMG Windows uses half-RAM!"? I mean, is another application being starved? Seems people with most RAM complain the most.

Regarding testing in VMs, I personally only encountered bugs that have nothing to do with specific hardware and drivers, so easily detectable in VM.

Edited December 8, 2024 by UCyborg

[vinifera]

2 hours ago, UCyborg said:

Seems people with most RAM complain the most.

as right as they should...
if freakin OS dumps so much into the memory, i'd start asking what the hell does it dump ?

[UCyborg]

Apparently you can run Windows 11 on certain Android smartphones.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1h9bblk/i_managed_to_run_windows_11_on_a_phone/

https://renegade-project.tech/en/home

I noticed the guy on Reddit called his phone "old". Then I looked it up and it's from 2021.

[sunryze]

21 hours ago, vinifera said:

as right as they should...
if freakin OS dumps so much into the memory, i'd start asking what the hell does it dump ?

macOS, Linux, and Windows all typically will just cache random files, programs, etc. that it predicts could be used at some point. It's just to make things feel a bit faster so they don't have to always access the disk.

with Windows its superfetch, essentially just preloads apps in memory so they don't have to 100% open from disk when you open them

of course, it shouldn't use all your memory so programs have some room for memory they need to allocate later

[UCyborg]

We didn't see the post with details. Standby memory is available for use by applications, you won't see it on the used side on your regular memory usage counter. Windows will throw loaded files out when memory is needed. It also tends to keep files loaded by the program you just closed loaded.

Though I'm not sure how I feel about preloading many gigabytes of data in advanced, especially on computers with faster storage. Even for bigger files, you may not need all portions at once. But in case you do...well it's all guesswork and I suppose any requested chunk is immediately available in the case of file being already fully loaded.

Doesn't Linux require loading something extra if you want Superfetch-like behavior?

[vinifera]

18 hours ago, sunryze said:

macOS, Linux, and Windows all typically will just cache random files, programs, etc. that it predicts could be used at some point. It's just to make things feel a bit faster so they don't have to always access the disk.

with Windows its superfetch, essentially just preloads apps in memory so they don't have to 100% open from disk when you open them

of course, it shouldn't use all your memory so programs have some room for memory they need to allocate later

i know all this... duh
hence why i wrote what i wrote...

[mshultz]

On 3/12/2024 at 6:42 AM, Klemper said:

"Windows 11 Accidentally Offered to Unsupported Computers ...The software giant says it was all a mistake"

https://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-11-accidentally-offered-to-unsupported-computers-537079.shtml

 

Why doesn't Windows 11 support Intel 6 & 7 generation CPUs?  Asus motherboards from the 100 series on up have TPM 2.0 support (with updated Bios), as does my Dell laptop with 6 gen Skylake CPU (It's called PTT in the Bios).  I can understand Microsoft's insistence on TPM 2.0 support, but to require Intel 8 gen or newer CPU is nothing more than planned obsolescence.  Also, those of us in Real America (and probably other parts of the world) cannot depend on 24/7 internet access,  so we need to be able to logon to a local account, and have Microsoft Office that does not depend on the cloud, so that we can still get work done (I use Office 2010, so not a problem).

[cc333]

Over the past summer, I set up a 6th gen-based Dell Optiplex with Windows 7, and that thing absolutely flies with a nice 1 TB SSD and 16 GB of RAM.

I've been thinking of *gasp* upgrading it to 10, but, honestly, I don't really see any point to it other than curiosity.  7 is doing everything I want with no problems, and there's no reason to change it unless/until I encounter something I want to use that it can't run.

If I had a spare SSD that I could swap in, maybe I would try 10, so that if I didn't like it (and I probably wouldn't), I could simply swap my undisturbed Windows 7 SSD back in and pick up where I left off.

c

[668]

15 hours ago, cc333 said:

Over the past summer, I set up a 6th gen-based Dell Optiplex with Windows 7, and that thing absolutely flies with a nice 1 TB SSD and 16 GB of RAM.

I've been thinking of *gasp* upgrading it to 10, but, honestly, I don't really see any point to it other than curiosity.  7 is doing everything I want with no problems, and there's no reason to change it unless/until I encounter something I want to use that it can't run.

If I had a spare SSD that I could swap in, maybe I would try 10, so that if I didn't like it (and I probably wouldn't), I could simply swap my undisturbed Windows 7 SSD back in and pick up where I left off.

c

do that if you want, also dont upgrade to the abomination known as windows 11, as you need a UEFI for it and its not worth paying £100 for something that feels like a ripoff company made it in python and copy and paste assembly code and using bits of the linux kernel so they dont have to pay for anything, also the rounded corners of the windows on windows 11 feel worse because its not the same, plus not all apps even support 11. windows 10 is like the mix between the worst parts of 8.1 and the worst parts of 7 salted and baked for 10 hours to give everyone a false hope that it would be good and then ripping the good things off right before being served to you

[vinifera]

On 12/17/2024 at 1:23 PM, mshultz said:

Why doesn't Windows 11 support Intel 6 & 7 generation CPUs?

money / economy

[NotHereToPlayGames]

31 minutes ago, vinifera said:

money / economy

Perhaps.  But the *excuse* is that they lack "security features" such as TPM 2.0.

You can blame "money" all you like.  I'll sit back and equally blame "security hype".  

[Tripredacus]

Yet it will still work on AMD systems that do not have a TPM 2.0.

[vinifera]

those who track things a bit, when wind0ze 11 came out
there was an article that microsoft and intel "made it" so, ms's AI works better with intel's cpu's

Edited January 14 by vinifera
not fish

[D.Draker]

Does Windows 11 churn up on HDD like Windows 7? Enormous reads-writes. I mean.

 

Edited January 15 by D.Draker
a typo

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