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On 3/12/2024 at 2:02 AM, sonyu said:

Image how difficult will be for somebody, who has never used Pentium I with Windows 98, to understand how fast Windows was back in the day in a hardware that was 100 times slower  than the one we have nowadays.

To be fair Win98 was basically a fancy calculator compared to Win10/11. Also to even it out a bit and be precise I think you forgot additional zero :D

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Windows 11 Enterprise Setup UX cannot delete an MSR partition on a disk. You need to use the cmd (Shift+F10) to use diskpart to clean the disk, then close the cmd, and refresh the disk ui to be able to see a fully unallocated disk to install onto. Obvious this also requires that you are trying to install the OS onto a used disk.

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reminds me on Longhorn alpha's :P
they had same problems, and that was 2
1 years ago !

 

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On 6/27/2024 at 7:55 AM, TheFighterJetDude said:

The interface was far better AND windows 95 was far faster in general, and no BS. If only it had support for multiple cpus and was under NT

Such a thing actually does exist.

It's called Windows NT 4.0.

However, Windows 2000, AKA NT 5.0, seems somewhat better because it still has a similar look and feel (although the "webbified" variant from 98), but includes many of the conveniences that are often taken for granted, such as Device Manager, Plug & Play, full support for USB HIDs (and at least partial support for USB mass storage), etc.  NT 4 and earlier never had any of that. 

Of course, it follows that XP (NT 5.1-5.3) was the best Windows overall (and in my opinion still is, at least as far as the UI is concerned;  there's a good reason why it outlasted every other version, having been continuously supported and updated in some form for almost 20 years!) because it took many of 2000's firsts and refined them with new features and even better reliability.

10 and 11 may have full support for modern hardware, but all that spyware junk is just unnecessary (I've read about how people were worried about all the spyware MS was including in Windows all the way back to Windows 98.  If only they had known what was to come 15 years later, maybe they wouldn't have complained so much....)

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Another evening, just wandering at random, downloaded Win11 24H2 ISO just to see how far it goes. Attempted to boot the ISO in a virtual machine, saw Windows logo for a short while and then:

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So that's what it feels like to be swooped to the land of the deprecated and unsupported. :P

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There's no workaround this time around, even the kernel of WinPE used by setup environment wants instructions my CPU doesn't have. Looks like initially, support for POPCNT was enough, but that requirement was later expanded to full blown SSE 4.2 instruction set.

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On 10/9/2024 at 8:06 PM, Sampei.Nihira said:

I still haven't decided whether to install this OS. I have until 2025.
 

Don't fix what isn't broken. Try it on a spare PC. Or plug in a spare HDD and disconnect the good one. I wouldn't even risk dual/tripple booting it, which in the end is probably a good idea to ease the transition. It's always good to have another OS to fix problems without a boot CD. Treat a new Windows like a virus. What's going to happen in 2025?

I can't delete the Microsoft Reserved Partition from inside Windows either, and must use BootIce or Gdisk to set up a disk before installing Windows.

When Windows 8 came out, it was the worst crap ever, and now people look fondly upon it in comparison. Lol.

On 7/24/2024 at 10:35 PM, Exaco said:

To be fair Win98 was basically a fancy calculator compared to Win10/11.

How so? You can compare any business application that came out at the time with what we can get new today and it will be smaller and faster. Back with Win98 we had to install our choice of applications to handle graphics and media, and Windows only did the core. Now they bundle everything but the kitchen sink into Windows, and those programs are rarely optimal.

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I see it a TAD differently.

Yes, Windows used to only be the core backbone that everything else just played on top of.

But "what I see" is that the computer userbase (only 0.01% of which ever land on a web site like MSFN!) is so "simplistic" and *know-nothing* when it comes to computers that they just run their OS (be it Mac, Windows, or Linux!) with "defaults".

I'm fairly certain (but it's been a VERY long time) that even Win98's Windows Update (something enabled by "default") would bring in new "features" that had NOTHING to do with said "core backbone".

XP would also bring in new "features" by way of Windows Update that had NOTHING to do with "core backbone".

And yes, by LEAPS AND BOUNDS, Win10 (if installed with "defaults") is FAR WORSE.  And Win11 extended that "far worse" to "farrer worser" (those are probably not "words", lol).

Just how many non-core "stuff" would Win98 have if we-the-consumer got our way and Microsoft still "supported" Win98 by way of WINDOWS UPDATES ???

METRO APPS is what killed Windows as far as "core backbone".  If you have them enabled, then you only have yourself to blame for your Windows installing non-core "stuff".

 

Edited by NotHereToPlayGames
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After retirement I have only 1 PC (Win10) at home.
My wife “put up with” the 5 PCs when I was working.
After 2025 Win10 will be EOL.

I never liked dual-boot.
So from October 2025 this one PC will be equipped with either Win 11 or Linux.

Edited by Sampei.Nihira

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