NotHereToPlayGames Posted April 7 Posted April 7 8 minutes ago, johk said: OK at https://browser-compat.turnstile.workers.dev/ This test gives false hope. It "passes" for me. BUT my city utilities has a d@mn Cloudflare that INFINITE LOOPS UNSOLVABLE despite that "pass".
Mark-XP Posted April 8 Posted April 8 21 hours ago, johk said: test is OK at https://browser-compat.turnstile.workers.dev/ Excuse me, is this the crap-message what you get there too: "Turnstile Failed Despite Passing All Checks"? And "All browser compatibility checks passed, but Turnstile couldn't complete successfuly". Tested just out of curiosity, on linux with Basilisk 64 - Luckyly never saw that before on the sites i visit:
Leokids123 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 10 minutes ago, Mark-XP said: Excuse me, is this the crap-message what you get there too: "Turnstile Failed Despite Passing All Checks"? And "All browser compatibility checks passed, but Turnstile couldn't complete successfuly". Tested just out of curiosity, on linux with Basilisk 64 - Luckyly never saw that before on the sites i visit: It's an edge case caused by Cloudfare failing to verify UXP browsers.... It does feel like Cloudfare hates UXP browsers due to them being based on 52ESR and being underestimated in its modern capabilities... Even if the reality is different...
NotHereToPlayGames Posted April 8 Posted April 8 (edited) Cloudflare isn't "out to get" UXP browsers. PERIOD. Cloudflare goes into an INFINITE UNSOLVABLE LOOP even in Chrome/Chromium/Supermim v144 on my city utilities billpay website. This has happened FOUR TIMES in the last SIX MONTHS. The city will not allow any web browser more than TWO MONTHS OLD to log in! You can access the web site and read the web site BUT YOU CANNOT LOG INTO THE WEBSITE. This has been discussed in the past. You have to have an account to log into in order to get the infinite loop Cloudflare. OFFICIAL Pale Moon (which is also UXP!) *IS* able to log into the website IF THE MOST RECENT VERSION. Why in H#LL the city won't allow ANY browser (be it Chrome/Chromium/Supermium AND EVEN UXP PALE MOON) that is more than a mere TWO MONTHS OLD is beyond me! What we need (all of us!) is a publicly maintained list of web sites being blocked by Cloudflare. I have provided my city billpay in the past, but it is USELESS to everybody else not living in my city or with an ACCOUNT TO LOG INTO. A maintained LIST of websites should help developers WAY better than our way-overused "Cloudflare isn't working". Edited April 8 by NotHereToPlayGames 1
user57 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 2 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: Cloudflare isn't "out to get" UXP browsers. PERIOD. Cloudflare goes into an INFINITE UNSOLVABLE LOOP even in Chrome/Chromium/Supermim v144 on my city utilities billpay website. This has happened FOUR TIMES in the last SIX MONTHS. The city will not allow any web browser more than TWO MONTHS OLD to log in! You can access the web site and read the web site BUT YOU CANNOT LOG INTO THE WEBSITE. This has been discussed in the past. You have to have an account to log into in order to get the infinite loop Cloudflare. OFFICIAL Pale Moon (which is also UXP!) *IS* able to log into the website IF THE MOST RECENT VERSION. Why in H#LL the city won't allow ANY browser (be it Chrome/Chromium/Supermium AND EVEN UXP PALE MOON) that is more than a mere TWO MONTHS OLD is beyond me! What we need (all of us!) is a publicly maintained list of web sites being blocked by Cloudflare. I have provided my city billpay in the past, but it is USELESS to everybody else not living in my city or with an ACCOUNT TO LOG INTO. A maintained LIST of websites should help developers WAY better than our way-overused "Cloudflare isn't working". regarding that version problem, it seems you have to make a build in User Agent changer
Guest raddy Posted April 9 Posted April 9 2 hours ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: What we need (all of us!) is a publicly maintained list of web sites being blocked by Cloudflare. Need new article on the register )) https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/04/cloudflare_blocking_niche_browsers/
j7n Posted April 9 Posted April 9 Reported on mainstream media, great. I would rather go back to finding bicycles and storefronts. I have discovered two useful settings in New Moon / Firefox. content.cors.bypass_preflight_request content.cors.disable What they do is, when using site A to load a piece of code from site B, they ask site B first for permission. With this system working, I was not able to use https://xythium.github.io/tidal.html because Tidal apparently has disallowed this access. But because New Moon is still somewhat a tweaker's tool, I was able to disable them to restore this site's functionality. I use it to find music albums and metadata about them.
johk Posted April 9 Posted April 9 (edited) @Mark-XP yes,that is the message; that page is actually for developers, that is the reason you can't see anywhere. It was created by Cloudflare after the block to Palemoon and any based browser and was published on Palemoon forums so people could test. I use myself to test if my browsers work. Maintain a list of sites using Cloudflare's trunstile would be endless, just only in my country. The only one able to rise this to CloudFlare is roytam, registering as a developer and signing some undisclosing contract. I don't remember the exact procedure told a year ago in the Palemoon forums. Edited April 9 by johk
NotHereToPlayGames Posted April 9 Posted April 9 (edited) 7 hours ago, johk said: registering as a developer and signing some undisclosing contract I don't think it is that "easy". Do we have any info from the Official Pale Moon Team that they are "registered as a developer"? Edited April 9 by NotHereToPlayGames
NotHereToPlayGames Posted April 9 Posted April 9 (edited) The HACKER NEWS linked within that article was far more informative than the article itself, IMO. Edited April 9 by NotHereToPlayGames
NotHereToPlayGames Posted April 9 Posted April 9 On 4/7/2026 at 7:39 PM, NotHereToPlayGames said: This test gives false hope. It "passes" for me. BUT my city utilities has a d@mn Cloudflare that INFINITE LOOPS UNSOLVABLE despite that "pass". "Passed" a few days ago. "Fails" today. Nothing changed on my end. Unsure if just a (un)timely coincidence.
Guest raddy Posted April 9 Posted April 9 1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said: Do we have any info from the Official Pale Moon Team that they are "registered as a developer"? Not registered https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=272078#p272078
NotHereToPlayGames Posted April 9 Posted April 9 2 minutes ago, raddy said: Not registered That's what I suspected. And also CONFUSES things, if you ask me. I hate to always use my city billpay as an example, but it is the ONE website that always FORCES me to upgrade my browser due to infinite loop unsolvable Cloudflare b&llsh#t. OFFICIAL Pale Moon does the same EXACT thing on the city billpay that OFFICIAL Chrome and OFFICIAL Chromium both do! They WORK until they don't (which is always when the version that I am running becomes TWO MONTHS OLD). Update to a version that is only ONE month old and they ALL can pass the Cloudflare b&llsh#t. Then a month later, the d@mn cycle repeats, ALL of them fail (infinite unsolvable loop) until again updated to something LESS than two months old. The same EXACT scenario has happened FOUR times in the past SIX months. Dang near clockwork! I swear, it's gotta be easier to hack into FBI servers than log into my city billpay! And for Official Pale Moon and Official Chrome to BOTH do this ???
j7n Posted April 9 Posted April 9 We have only one bank that I know of that has a strict browser check. All other imporant sites where I have to submit meter readingsq can be accessed with older versions, and don't rely on CloudFlare, but something less intrusive. So far no problems with Supermium and I can go on all websites with it.
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