Tihiy Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) Introducing StartAllBack Canary - experimental build intended for short preview for next version. Driven by partial taskbar demise in Windows Insider Canary, system tray was re-written. This new implementation is intended to be used in all Win11 versions. This topic is intended to discuss new tray implementation and StartAllBack on current Windows Insider Canary channel only. Edited November 19, 2023 by Tihiy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tihiy Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) Canary 4750 https://startisback.com/StartAllBack_setup.exe Quote - System tray is fully functional for all displays. Hope you don't need to move taskbars between displays now! - Windows 7 flyouts are animated - Notification Area Icons Control Panel applet is not supported anymore - Clock does not support additional time zones / calendars (how do you use those?) - Settings are stored in Windows 22H2+ compatible format, so Settings app icon tweaking should work. - WARNING: alpha builds known to corrupt NotifyIconSettings registry database, making native taskbar crash - WARNING: Insider Canary is known to white-freeze the screen. dwm.exe restart helps, root cause unknown, help to find. - Not tested / not adjusted on touch display. Edited October 16, 2023 by Tihiy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackid1993 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 @Tihiy you are the best! Does this means our beloved classic taskbar will survive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackid1993 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) I found a little bug to report. I use Networx bandwidth monitor which displays my bandwidth usage on the taskbar. With this build it overlaps over the clock. Edit: this was tested on 23H2. I have since reverted to stable. Just wanted to test the waters. https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/ Edited October 16, 2023 by mackid1993 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyySX Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Awesome, thanks for the update and the hard work! Could someone post a screenshot of the "new" tray area or does it look the same? I'm a little apprehensive installing this build due to the mentioned corruption. I'm on 23H2 RC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rseiler Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Nice, thanks. I was getting a little worried by what happened in Canary given that I'm on Dev and therefore on any given week some or all of the relevant changes from Canary could have migrated over without warning, musical-chairs style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstragonQC Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Il y a 3 heures, SkyySX a dit : Génial, merci pour la mise à jour et le travail acharné ! Quelqu'un pourrait-il publier une capture d'écran de la "nouvelle" zone de la barre d'état ou est-ce qu'elle est identique ? J'ai un peu peur d'installer cette version en raison de la corruption mentionnée. Je suis sur 23H2 RC. Of course, here it is: Also as this thread is more dedicated to this specific section, so I have a little suggestion for the tray : being able (if possible) to change the gap between the clock and the date, as this is a detail that make me crazy me when I use the Windows 7 style, as I'm a bit of a perfectionist. I'm explaining this by the fact the gap is 8 pixels on W7, 8 and 8.1, but 9 pixels on W10/Legacy taskbar (yes, I see the difference, and it triggers me, I always want to... AAAARH! Remove this extra pixel to fix this thing and finally die peacefully). This image I made in January can explain what I have in mind if you want a more "imaged" context: (Click to open at full size) I doubt this is doable but if it is, it would be a nice touch, the minimum is just this extra gap pixel, if it can be completely adjusted by anyone with a setting, it would be even better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackid1993 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 hours ago, mackid1993 said: I found a little bug to report. I use Networx bandwidth monitor which displays my bandwidth usage on the taskbar. With this build it overlaps over the clock. Edit: this was tested on 23H2. I have since reverted to stable. Just wanted to test the waters. https://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/ It seems like the deskband can cause the whole system tray to disappear as well. It almost seems like there is no barrier on the system tray for the deskband like there is on the taskbar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tihiy Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 5 hours ago, mackid1993 said: @Tihiy you are the best! Does this means our beloved classic taskbar will survive? There's no guarantee, but chances are higher. 3 hours ago, rseiler said: Nice, thanks. I was getting a little worried by what happened in Canary given that I'm on Dev and therefore on any given week some or all of the relevant changes from Canary could have migrated over without warning, musical-chairs style. That's unlikely. Canary is most likely strictly Windows 12 and far enough from Windows 11 technically already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackid1993 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tihiy said: There's no guarantee, but chances are higher. That's unlikely. Canary is most likely strictly Windows 12 and far enough from Windows 11 technically already. That's great! Thank for all of your hard work. You should really consider charging an upgrade fee for this or starting a Patreon so we can donate to support your development work. SAB is incredibly cheap and I for one would like to support the work you do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tihiy Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 Canary 4755 https://startisback.com/StartAllBack_setup.exe Quote - Fixed blurry fullscreen overlay on Canary - Try to fix Nvidia driver crash on Canary - Fixed compatibility with Networx - Supported HideClock, HideSCA... policies - This and that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFX Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 With slim taskbar the systray icons are no longer centered. TaskBand2SmallIcons::Taskband2, TASKITEM --> CONTENTMARGINS = 4,4,4,4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tihiy Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 @mackid1993 sorry but those reports do not look new systray-related. Please care to compare with 3.6.13 and specify more about test environment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackid1993 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Those issues never happened with 3.6.13. I'm running 23H2 on the release preview channel. My device is a Surface Laptop Studio so maybe it has something to do with touch. @Tihiy I apologize, my Wifi menu came back. As for the issue with the taskbar resizing that happens on 3.6.13 as well. I'm on 22631.2428 so it may be related to that build of Win 11. Update: I did more testing on another machine running 22621.2428, the taskbar cutoff issue does not happen on that build with either 3.6.13 or this canary build. This issue only seems to occur on 23H2 and is irrespective of SAB build. Edited October 18, 2023 by mackid1993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adacom Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 interesting - you say its for all builds of windows 11 - i use Tclock - startallback supports that but this does not or i cannot get it to work - anything you can do would be appreciated its old but very useful - https://github.com/White-Tiger/T-Clock/releases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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