ArcticFoxie/NotHereToPlayGames -- 360Chrome v13.5.2036 rebuild 1

[NotHereToPlayGames]

36 minutes ago, MWF said:

this is reason why i request it to fix title bar, it happen to me but with classic theme, and feodor2 did fix it

You are correct.  I was an update or two behind.  But again, Google Voice does not work and once that is established on my end, I do not test with any additional web sites.

That one web site and that one alone is the first hurdle.  If the runner trips on the first hurdle, I do not proceed further down the track.

[UCyborg]

Oh c'mon, even DOOM ran at 35 FPS!

[NotHereToPlayGames]

8 minutes ago, UCyborg said:

Oh c'mon, even DOOM ran at 35 FPS!

You lost me.  I know "what" DOOM is, but I have never played it.  Do other "browsers working on Older NT-Family OSes" (particularly XP) achieve a higher FPS?

[UCyborg]

Yeah, I was surprised, UXP browsers and Mypal do get 60 FPS, even though they all have some bottleneck in WebGL, but I guess this re-implementation of Minecraft Classic is simple enough. But more complex than glxgears in Linux. I haven't experimented trying getting higher, maybe with some about:config tweaks, AFAIK 60 FPS cap in the browser is intentional.

But Chromium unfortunately can't use the GPU, although I bet there's no technical reason it couldn't use host computer's OpenGL capabilities, which is theoretically rather advanced on last NVIDIA XP drivers. But I don't know any such new enough 3D game that would work on XP. OpenGL was never popular and the most advanced game I know that runs on XP (x64) is Wolfenstein: The New Order, but that's supposedly "only" OpenGL 3.2, last NVIDIA driver supports 4.5, which is supposed to be on Direct3D 11 level feature-wise. Most capable as D3D11 can get I think.

BTW, does Google Voice actually try to use WebGL? At least Mypal's console suggests so. No idea how to get past the spinner on that browser. Loads normally on Chromium, obviously. I should try disabling WebGL on the latter to see if there's also complaining about missing WebGL in the console.

Edited July 22, 2023 by UCyborg

[UCyborg]

Given the diversity of the web, I think it's generally better to have more browsers in the arsenal than less. One thing lacking on Mozilla's side as far as XP compatible browsers go...let me know if I'm missing something, but please tell me how the heck do you debug or at least try to find the reason why something doesn't work there?

On Chromium, figuring out where the issue is on https://uk.wallapop.com/ was easy, but I can't find reliable option on Mozilla's side to unminify, set breakpoints, see the call stack.

Most sites seem to have their code minified and Mozilla's debugger seems completely and utterly useless on those. I mean after I used the unminification option in Chromium, things clearly revealed themselves in the error console as well.

I guess you could still use the proxy, download original file, run it through unminifier/prettifier, then get the browser to download unminified version from the proxy, but that's a bit clunky.

Edited July 22, 2023 by UCyborg

[UCyborg]

1 hour ago, NotHereToPlayGames said:

You lost me.

In the earlier days, games refreshing at slower rate was the norm.

It was a slow lazy day today, so I've been clicking random things on the internet. The desktop version of ClassiCube is compatible with Windows 2000 and older version is supposed to run on Windows 95, so I thought of the people on the forum and that there was some chatting about Minecraft on Windows 9x.

But since I spend most of computer time in the web browser, I took a detour and clicked my way to the web version and for no explicit reason made a post here.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

I get 60 fps in 360Chrome v13.5, NM28, and St52.

Can't get ClassiCube to work in Mypal.

[mina7601]

4 hours ago, UCyborg said:

Oh c'mon, even DOOM ran at 35 FPS!

Man, that website almost froze my VirtualBox XP SP3 VM. It ran at 1 FPS. 😅

[UCyborg]

Maybe @NotHereToPlayGames's CPU compensates for it, it's not graphically intensive game after all. There's an option in menu Options->Graphics options to uncap frame-rate to see how high it goes. Although one must divide 1000 / by average FPS to get approximate frame time, because frame time in msec, that's one variable that actually matters and where differences aren't actually very big when you go into higher frame rates.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/what-is-frame-time/

@mina7601
Yeah, graphics especially is best experienced natively.

[UCyborg]

I don't know Chromium solution for https://uk.wallapop.com/ other than Proxomitron, assuming the site doesn't have the problem with proxy. I fixed it in old-school Mozilla browsers (those that support "legacy" extensions) by implementing the following rule in Palefill extension:

A rule is declared in lib/builtin-rules.js, specifying JavaScript file from the server to modify:

! --
uk.wallapop.com/_next/static/chunks/153-5d79e58b4ff2576f.js$script
    $script-content,wallapop-fractiondigits
! --

Search and replace action is defined in lib/main.js where site-specific rules are:

case "wallapop-fractiondigits":
    contentReplace.push([`{style:"currency",currency:n,maximumFractionDigits:r}`, `{style:"currency",currency:n,minimumFractionDigits:r,maximumFractionDigits:r}`]);
    break;

Now the first page loads at least, I don't know if there are further problems down the line. But it may only be few days until this code portion is moved to another file, maybe just the portion after 153 will change, in this case you could catch it with 153-*.js, or maybe search all files - more work for the browser/proxy.

I don't know what's better, life is hard in the land of the unsupported. It seems Chromium 94 already accepted minimumFractionDigits being omitted. I don't know which version was first that do. You may experiment with this code snippet in the browser console to see where it works or not:

Intl.NumberFormat([], {
  style: "currency",
  currency: "EUR",
  maximumFractionDigits: 0
}).format(300);

It should output 300 €.

So, older browsers (or those that don't follow Chromium as religiously) will only accept this form:

Intl.NumberFormat([], {
  style: "currency",
  currency: "EUR",
  minimumFractionDigits: 0,
  maximumFractionDigits: 0
}).format(300);

Edited July 23, 2023 by UCyborg

[Dave-H]

OnlyFans also no longer works.
I'm just getting this, repeated over and over.

[UCyborg]

Works for me.

Maybe try with a fresh profile or just run the browser temporarily with --disable-extensions command-line parameter.

[NotHereToPlayGames]

Not familiar with "OnlyFans".

I tried from here at work and landed on a big Corporate Landing Page for attempting to connect to an "adult" web site.

Hope IT doesn't knock on my door.  

[UCyborg]

Radio chatter: "We've got a runner here that tried to access onlyfans.com. Proceed to investigate."

From Wikipedia:

Quote

OnlyFans is an internet content subscription service based in London, United Kingdom.[1] The service is used primarily by sex workers who produce pornography,[2] but it also hosts the work of other content creators, such as physical fitness experts and musicians.

Edited July 24, 2023 by UCyborg

[Dixel]

3 hours ago, UCyborg said:

Radio chatter: "We've got a runner here that tried to access onlyfans.com. Proceed to investigate."

From Wikipedia:

OnlyFans is an internet content subscription service based in London, United Kingdom.[1] The service is used primarily by sex workers who produce pornography,[2] but it also hosts the work of other content creators, such as physical fitness experts and musicians.

I always thought @Dave-H is a musician.

 

3 hours ago, Dave-H said:

OnlyFans also no longer works.
I'm just getting this, repeated over and over.

Looks more like the infamous "just a moment" cloudfare protection fingerprinting.

https://community.cloudflare.com/t/checking-your-browser-before-accessing-on-loop/281082/13

https://www.reddit.com/r/CloudFlare/comments/103vsgx/need_help_with_browser_check_loop/